GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE, CAN YOU PLEASE BE SEATED? [1. CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:05] WE'RE ABOUT TO BEGIN OUR BUDGET HEARING FOR TODAY. AMY, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? YOU HAVE SEVEN PRESENT. GREAT. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM AT THIS TIME. CAN WE GET APPROVAL FROM OUR MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING AND MOVE THEM PROPERLY? SECOND. TO THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE. AYE. WE HAVE ADOPTED OUR MINUTES. MOVING ON TO NUMBER FOUR, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE REPORTS FROM OUR TREASURER AND OUR [4. COMPTROLLER & TREASURER’S REPORTS] COMPTROLLER. LADIES, FIRST . THAT ONE? YEAH. HELLO. DEBORAH BUCKNER PULASKI COUNTY TREASURER AND I ONLY HAVE GOOD THINGS TO REPORT, SO YOU'LL BE TICKLED ABOUT THAT. WE HAVE ISSUED THE SEPTEMBER REPORTS. THEY WERE APPROVED THIS AFTERNOON, BUT THE REPORTS WE SEND YOU EVERY MONTH, I KNOW THAT YOU ALL STUDIED THEM AND STAY UP ALL NIGHT READING EVERY LINE ITEM OF EVERY THING THAT WE SEND YOU. SO YOU WILL KNOW THAT BANKRUPTCIES ARE NOT UP. THEY ARE FLAT AND ACTUALLY BANKRUPTCIES ARE A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THEY'VE BEEN. SO THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE PUTTING THEIR TAXES IN THEIR BANKRUPTCY. SO FOR US, THAT'S A GOOD THING. WE ENDED THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER WITH THE GENERAL FUND BEING REMITTED, 1.2 MILLION WHICH IS ABOUT 10 PERCENT. AS I ALWAYS TELL YOU, IT ALWAYS FALLS FLAT TO THAT. YOU'LL SEE THAT AT THE END OF THE SEPTEMBER 30 PERIOD INTO THE THIRD QUARTER GENERAL FUND, AND THIS, OF COURSE, INCLUDING SOME OF THE ADD ON MONEY WE'VE GOTTEN WAS IN VERY GOOD SHAPE. SALES TAX IS COMING IN A BIT AHEAD FROM LAST YEAR. THE HOMESTEAD CREDIT IS ABOUT FLAT, SO THAT MEANS HOME OWNERSHIP IS ABOUT THE SAME. AND OVERALL, YOU KNOW, LIKE ALL OF YOU, THERE'S NO INTEREST BEING PAID ANYWHERE. SO WE'RE NOT EARNING A LOT IN THE WAY OF INTEREST. BUT THAT WAS WE DIDN'T BUDGET A BIG NUMBER, SO IT'S RIGHT WHERE WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE. I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE'VE HAD A NEW INITIATIVE THIS YEAR AND THIS KIND OF WRAPS IT UP AND THEN I'LL OFFER ANSWER FOR QUESTIONS. BUT WE STARTED A NEW INITIATIVE THIS YEAR THAT I'M VERY PROUD OF FOR TAX PAYMENTS. WE ARE THE FIRST IN THE COUNTRY, WE'RE TOLD, UNLESS SOMEBODY LIED TO US, WHICH, YOU KNOW, HEY, WHO'S EVER LIED TO A WOMAN, RIGHT? BUT THE WOMEN ARE ALL LAUGHING. BUT THERE GOES CURTIS, HE'S LAUGHING. BUT WE UNDER GREAT INVESTIGATION THROUGH THE PANDEMIC AND THE QUARANTINING THAT WE, MANY OF US WORKING FROM HOME, BACK AND FORTH, WHATEVER. IT'S BEEN INTERESTING, BUT WE AFFILIATED WITH THE COMPANY THROUGH LEGAL AND EVERYTHING ELSE CALLED PAYMENTUS, AND THEY HAVE OFFERED US THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND OUR ELECTRONIC PAYMENTS. SO IF YOU'VE HEARD THE RADIO, YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY APPLE PAY, GOOGLE PAY, VENMO, PAYPAL, PAYPAL, CREDIT, CAN YOU ALL SAY THAT FAST IN 15 SECONDS? THAT WAS A REAL CHALLENGE. WELL, THANK YOU, PHIL, I APPRECIATE THAT. JUSTICE STOWERS, I SHOULD SAY. BUT HERE'S THE DEAL. BENTLEY JUST GAVE ME THE UPDATED NUMBER. AS OF TODAY, WE ARE THIRTY THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED ELECTRONIC PAYMENTS AHEAD OF THE SAME DATE LAST YEAR. WE HAD SOME 72000, I THINK IT WAS LAST YEAR, AND WE ARE WELL OVER 100000 NOW. SO, THE OUR CUSTOMERS, THE PAYING PUBLIC LOVE PAYPAL, VENMO AND ALL THOSE THINGS AND THE COMPANY THAT'S A NATIONAL COMPANY ACTUALLY HAS DONE UTILITIES, SO THEY'VE NEVER DONE TAX BEFORE. SO THESE WONDERFUL PEOPLE BEHIND ME SCHOOLED THEM ON ARKANSAS TAXES. SO NOT A SMALL THING, BUT THEY HAVE REDUCED FEES AND THERE'S OTHER THINGS THEY HAVE COMING THAT WE WILL BRING INTO THE NEXT CYCLE. BUT YOU KNOW, THIS IS VERY EXCITING FOR US AND WE ARE ALREADY BEING QUIZZED BY OTHER COUNTIES AND THE STATE ACTUALLY HAS CONTACTED US ON HOW DO YOU DO THIS? HOW DO YOU AFFILIATE WHAT ARE THE LEGALS? AND ALL IT DOES FOR US IS FOR THE PEOPLE LIKE JUSTICE STOWERS WHO PAY BY CHECK OR THE PEOPLE WHO PAY CASH, WHATEVER, WE'RE MEETING EVERYBODY WHERE THEY ARE. AND WE ALWAYS WILL. BUT THIS WAS EXCITING THAT IT NOT ONLY GOT VETTED BUT WORKS. [00:05:04] THIRTY THOUSAND MORE PAYMENTS, THIS TIME AT THE SAME TIME ELECTRONICALLY IS A REALLY BIG DEAL. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT SORT OF THING, WE'RE LIKE OVERWHELMED WITH IT. SO YAY, TEAM BACK THERE BEHIND ME. I JUST SAID, YES, THEY DO ALL THE WORK, YOU ALL KNOW THAT. SO IF THERE'S A QUESTION, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER IT. I THINK WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. EASY QUESTION, TWO QUESTIONS. WHICH PAYMENT PROCESS DO YOU PREFER? AND WHAT ARE THE CHEAPER PAYMENT OPTIONS FOR THE COUNTY? I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU TWO ANSWERS TO THAT. THE PAYMENT THAT WE PREFER IS THE ONE THAT'S DATE AND TIME STAMPED THROUGH AN ELECTRONIC MEANS BECAUSE THERE'S NO LOST IN THE MAIL. THERE'S NO I DIDN'T GET A RECEIPT. THERE'S NO I DROPPED IT AT THE LOCKBOX AND, YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF FRAUD ATTEMPT, IF YOU WILL. SO FROM A STANDPOINT OF COUNTY EASE AND VERIFICATION AND AUDIT, TRAIL ELECTRONIC IS THE BEST FOR US, FOR LEG AUDIT, ET CETERA. THE SECOND THING I'LL SAY IS. THESE NEW PAYMENT PROCESSES THAT WE ARE NEGOTIATING, THEY HAVE LOWER FEES THAN WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST, AND SO AS OUR VOLUME GIVES US THE ABILITY TO NEGOTIATE LOWER FEES, THEY'LL CONTINUE TO GO DOWN SO THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO PAY A DOLLAR OR TWO DOLLARS OR WHATEVER, WE'LL FIND THAT AS MR. STOWERS SAID, A 50 CENT STAMP VERSUS A DOLLAR FOR AN EASY CHECK DOWN THE ROAD. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE MAKING A JUDGMENT DECISION THAT IT'S EASIER AND MORE SECURE. DOES THAT HELP ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? WHAT IS THE CHEAPEST PAYMENT OPTION FOR THE COUNTY TO RECEIVE PROPERTY TAXES OR ANY TAX COLLECTION? THE CHEAPEST WAY FOR. ELECTRONICALLY?. ELECTRONIC, IT WOULD BE THROUGH THIS PAYPAL VENMO TYPE PRODUCT. OK. WE DON'T PAY THE FEE. WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PAY THE FEE BY LAW. THE CLIENT PAYS THE FEE. YEAH, THEY CHOOSE. IF THEY CHOOSE THAT WE DON'T, WE'RE INCURRED NO COST. IN FACT, IT'S AN ELECTRONIC OVERLAY EVERY DAY THAT GOES INTO OUR SYSTEM AND IT'S PRETTY SLICK AND IT'S BALANCED EVERY DAY, TOO. SO WE THERE'S NOT ANY OUTLIERS, IF YOU WILL. IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THE FEE WAS LIKE SEEMED TO BE ALWAYS TWO OR THREE BUCKS OR MAYBE MORE TO PAY ELECTRONICALLY. IS THAT HOW MUCH LESS IS IT FOR PAYPAL CASHAPP, VENMO? THOSE RUN, THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. THEY RUN ABOUT $2. AND SOME OF THE ONES WE USED TO HAVE THE PERCENTAGE WAS BY THE AMOUNT. WHAT HOW MUCH YOUR TAXES WERE, IT WAS A PERCENTAGE. SO FOR US PEOPLE WHO MAIL IT IN, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE GOT TO PHYSICALLY TOUCH IT AND HANDLE IT SO THEIR SOFT DOLLAR COST WITH OUR STAFFING. AND THE OTHER IS MUCH SIMPLER AND CHEAPER FOR US. OKAY, THANK YOU. ARE YOU? YES. THANK YOU. MR. MCCOY. MR. ELLIOTT? JUSTICE ELLIOTT. I THINK YOU WERE RECOGNIZED. DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? GOT A LITTLE SHORT ONE. HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU, WOULD YOU SAY PAY FOR THE DOG FEE? I MEAN, WE HAVE $96000 THAT WAS COLLECTED AS OF LAST FRIDAY ON THAT, AND THAT RUNS ABOUT NOT QUITE NOT QUITE SIX PERCENT OF THE TAXPAYERS TO DATE. EVERY YEAR, IT'S ALMOST ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT SIX PERCENT. SO ANYWHERE FROM WE'LL GET AROUND 100000 TO MAYBE ONE HUNDRED AND TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS BY THE TIME WE'RE DONE WITH POSTING EVERYTHING AT THE END OF THIS FIRST RATE. I JUST WANT TO KIND OF SEE HOW THAT WAS. YEAH, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JUSTICE ELLIOTT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. JUSTICE STOWERS YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. YES. THANK YOU, MS. MASSEY. SO YOU MENTIONED THEM, BUT DID NOT MENTION THEM BY NAME. WE KNOW THAT YOU'RE THE TREASURER OF THE FACE OF THE TREASURE COLLECTOR'S OFFICE. BUT I THINK WE'D BE REMISS IF WE DIDN'T RECOGNIZE DEBBIE AND BENTLEY BEING YOUR CHIEF LIEUTENANTS IN BOTH TREASURY AND COLLECTION AND ALL THAT THEY DO TO UNDERGIRD YOU AND TO SERVE THE COUNTY. I YIELD. IT IS MY GREAT PLEASURE. IN YOUR 21, ESPECIALLY TO RECOGNIZE MS. DEBBIE WALTER, WHO IS THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATOR, AND SHE AND I HAVE WORKED TOGETHER OVER 40 YEARS. IF YOU CAN BELIEVE THAT AND WHEN WE'RE BOTH 35, THAT'S AMAZING. YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE WAY I FEEL ABOUT IT. MR. BENTLEY HOVIS IS CHIEF DEPUTY, AND HE HAS DONE A MASTERFUL JOB JUGGLING LEGISLATION. WHAT'S COMING AT US? WHAT DO WE HAVE TO CHANGE? IN ADDITION TO HELPING WITH OUTSIDE MEDIA, ADDITIONALLY, WHEN I'M UNAVAILABLE, ETC. SO THANK YOU, MR. STOWERS. THEY REALLY DO TAKE OUR JOB AND OUR MISSION VERY SERIOUSLY. [00:10:01] AND YOU KNOW, WE TOOK A TACK A LONG TIME AGO. WE DON'T CALL PEOPLE TAXPAYERS, THEY'RE OUR CUSTOMERS. AND WHEN YOU HAVE THE ATTITUDE THAT THEY'RE YOUR CUSTOMERS, IT'S A DIFFERENT WAY TO RUN AN OPERATION. SO ANYWAY, I'M THRILLED TO BRING YOU GOOD NEWS BECAUSE IT'S ALL GOOD NEWS TONIGHT AND WE'RE THRILLED. ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF THERE BEING NONE? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING AND THANK THE BOTH OF YOU. AND THANKS FOR LETTING ME GO FIRST. I DO NEED TO GET OUT OF HERE. ALL RIGHT. GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY. THANK YOU. LET THE RECORD ALSO REFLECT THAT JUSTICE GREEN HAS ARRIVED. MOVING ON TO OUR COMPTROLLER, MR. HUTCHENS. I'M GOING TO CONTINUE ON WITH THE GOOD NEWS. WE'VE BEEN IN GOOD FINANCIAL SHAPE FOR YEARS, BUT I REALLY DON'T REMEMBER THE LAST TIME WE'VE BEEN IN THIS GOOD FINANCIAL SHAPE. A COUPLE OF REASONS FOR IT. ONE, WE'VE HAD SOME LOWER EXPENSES DUE TO COVID BECAUSE THE COVID MONEY HAS BEEN ABLE TO OFFSET SOME OF OUR NORMAL EXPENSES. AND WITH ONCE WE GOT PEOPLE, WE'RE BRINGING BACK PEOPLE IN, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE REMOTE THAT CUT DOWN ON THE USE AND THE BUILDINGS WERE ABLE TO DO SOME OF THIS WORK. WE'RE STILL GOT SOME COSMETIC TO DO ON THE THIRD AND FOURTH FLOOR, AND NOW WE'RE MOVING TO TWO. IT'S BEEN A GOOD YEAR ACTUALLY, OTHER THAN THE WHOLE COVID MASK STUFF . I DON'T KNOW WHAT FINANCIAL QUESTIONS YOU ALL MIGHT HAVE AFTER WHAT SHE PRESENTED TO YOU, BUT IF YOU WILL INDULGE ME, I'D LIKE TO GET ON TO WHAT WE GOT GOING ON TONIGHT AND EXPLAIN TO YOU WHERE WE STAND. YES, SIR. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED JUSTICE STOWERS. MS. MASSEY, SO HUTCH KIND OF A TWOFOLD QUESTION ON REVENUE AS FAR AS THE NUMBERS, WHEREVER YOU HAVE THEM THROUGH IS PROBABLY THROUGH AUGUST RIGHT NOW OR MAYBE THROUGH JULY . THROUGH SEPTEMBER. OK, SO THROUGH THREE QUARTERS OF THE YEAR AND THEN YOUR PROJECTION FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR. WHERE ARE THOSE KNOWING THAT WHEN YOU HAD TO MAKE THESE PROJECTIONS, IT WAS ABOUT A YEAR AGO AND WE WERE IN THE THROES OF COVID. WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN, WHERE THINGS WERE GOING TO GO. SO WHERE DO WE STAND THREE QUARTERS THROUGH THE YEAR? WHAT'S YOUR PROJECTION AS FAR AS AGAINST WHAT YOU PROJECTED A YEAR AGO FOR THE FULL YEAR OF 21? AND THEN WHAT MIGHT THAT LOOK LIKE? SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW, I'VE ALWAYS EXPRESSED IS THAT HOUSEHOLD, A BUSINESS, A GOVERNMENT SHOULD IF THEY CAN HAVE THREE MONTHS WORTH OF THEIR EXPENSES IN EMERGENCY RESERVES, WHICH ON AN $80 MILLION BUDGET WOULD BE ABOUT 20 MILLION. I THINK WE'VE GOT ABOUT 10 RIGHT NOW, SO WE'RE ABOUT HALFWAY THERE. YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE? WOULD THIS GOOD YEAR HELP US TO FURTHER INCREASE OUR RESERVES TO THE POINT THAT WE GET TO WHERE IF WE HAD A NATIONAL CRISIS OR EMERGENCY THAT WE COULD PAY OUR BILLS FOR THREE MONTHS? YOU CAN DO THAT. HERE'S WHERE WE'RE AT. IF YOU TAKE THE COVID OUT, TAKE THE COVID MONEY OUT. FORGET THAT. TAKE THAT OUT OF THE EQUATION THAT NEVER HAPPENED. WE'RE ON A REGULAR YEAR. I WAS CONSERVATIVE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR AND WE'RE AHEAD OF THAT. WE HADN'T HAD ANY SURPRISES. WE'RE BETTER OFF THAN WHAT WE THOUGHT WE'D BE. PEOPLE ARE PAYING TAXES, SALES TAXES, UP FINES, FEES, ALL THE OTHER HUNDREDS OF LITTLE THINGS. THEY'RE FINE, THEY'RE GOOD. ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS GOING INTO THIS YEAR IS WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS GOING TO HOLD, SO WE WERE CONSERVATIVE ON WITH QUORUM COURT START BACK UP. WOULD THERE BE INCURRED COSTS BECAUSE OF COVID ON CLEANING OR PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT? OR WOULD WE HAVE TO SEND PEOPLE HOME? HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO THIS? YOU TAKE COVID OUT OF IT. WE'RE FINE. TAKE THAT MONEY OUT OF IT. WE'RE FINE. OUR PROJECTIONS WERE CONSERVATIVE, WHICH MADE THEM A LITTLE BIT LOW. WE'VE COME IN AHEAD OF THAT. NOT FELT SO GOOD IN A LONG TIME. THE MAGIC EIGHT BALL I USUALLY BRING IN HERE WITH ME, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO NEED THIS YEAR MIGHT BREAK OUT THE OUIJA BOARD OR THE DARTBOARD AT SOME POINT, BUT MAGIC EIGHT BALL, WE CAN LEAVE IT HOME. THE BUDGETS WHICH WE'LL GET INTO IN A LITTLE BIT, YOU'LL SEE THAT LIKE 98 PERCENT OF THEM OR PROBABLY MORE. THE ONLY INCREASE THEY HAD WAS THE INCREASE THAT WAS DONE BACK IN JUNE WITH THE TWO PERCENT, THAT'S WHERE THE INCREASE CAME FROM. SINCE THAT WAS A KNOWN DEAL, THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY OTHER INCREASES. SO DEPARTMENTS HAVE HELD THEIR BUDGETS. [00:15:02] WE'VE SHIFTED THE EXPENSE WHERE WE COULD ON CLEANING PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT WHEN WE HAD TO GO OFF SITE FOR COURT. WE CAN CHARGE THAT BACK TO CODE, SO THAT SAVED THE COUNTY. THAT BEING SAID, THERE'S GOING TO BE A POT OF MONEY THERE THAT COME JANUARY. THAT'S COUNTY MONEY YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A DECISION WITH. THAT'S WHEN YOU WOULD BOOST YOUR EMERGENCY FUND. ME AND YOU HAVE HAD THAT DISCUSSION. I AGREE WITH YOU. A BIG PERCENTAGE OF THAT NEEDS TO BE THERE IN CASE THE WHEELS FALL OFF. IN CASE YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE, GEE, I DON'T KNOW, A COVID EXPERIENCE OR SOMETHING. I'D LIKE TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING SCARY TO TELL YOU, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. I LOOKED FOR IT. I WANTED SOMETHING. I HAVE ONE FOLLOW UP QUESTION MS. MASSEY AND I HATE TO ASK THE QUESTION THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE 800 POUND GORILLA IN THE ROOM, BUT WITH THE WONDERFUL PICTURE I'VE HEARD FROM THE TREASURER AND NOW FROM YOU. IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY TO LOWER THE TAX BURDEN ON THE PEOPLE OF PULASKI COUNTY? I CAN'T ANSWER THAT BECAUSE I DON'T COLLECT THOSE TAXES. OK. THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT MY SIDE OF THE. THAT'S NOT MY SIDE OF THE COIN. THANK YOU, MR. STOWERS. MR. ELLIOTT, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. WELL, WHAT I WANT TO DO IS, HUTCH, TELL YOU, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU AND I THINK YOU'VE DONE A HECK OF A JOB AND YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. NOW, WOULD YOU LIKE ME EXPLAIN TO YOU WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT? YES, PLEASE. OKAY. YOU'VE GOT WHAT IS IT? FIVE SHEETS, OR DID I SHRINK IT TO FOUR? NO FIVE SHEETS. EVERYTHING THAT'S IN YELLOW THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW. THOSE ARE GRANTS AND THOSE ARE DEPARTMENTS THAT THEIR CHANGE WAS FROM ORDINANCE 21-OR17, WHICH WAS THE RAISE THAT WENT INTO EFFECT IN JUNE, JUNE 19TH. SO EFFECTIVELY NO CHANGE IN THEIR BUDGET. SAME THING WE DO EVERY YEAR. WHAT I WOULD ASK YOU ALL TO DO IS TO PASS THOSE BUDGETS. TONIGHT WE GET THOSE OUT OF THE WAY I UPDATE THAT'S GOING TO LEAVE YOU 11 BUDGETS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REVIEW. OF THOSE 11 BUDGETS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO USE, FOR EXAMPLE, BOARD OF EQUALIZATION. THEY WANT AN INCREASE OF $37000 BECAUSE THEY EXPECT MORE HEARINGS WHEN THEY COME AND SIT DOWN IN HIS CHAIR AND SAY, WE EXPECT MORE HEARINGS. SAME THING. I'M GOING TO TELL YOU. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SAY. YOU COULD PASS IT TONIGHT. IT'S THE SAME THING AND SAY ON MY TRIP OVER HERE, IF THEY DON'T SPEND THE MONEY, IF THEY DON'T HAVE AS MANY HEARINGS, YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE MONEY BACK. SAME THING IS ALWAYS THEY HAVE UP AND DOWN THE YEARS. YOU CAN SEE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, PUBLIC DEFENDER, PROSECUTING ATTORNEY, DETENTION, TWO RIVERS. THOSE ARE THE ONLY ONES YOU'RE REALLY GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS ON. EVERYTHING ELSE IS SITTING WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE. I THINK THE ELECTED OFFICIALS, THE DEPARTMENT HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF KEEPING THINGS. LEFT OUT SANITATION, WHICH HAS THE BUILT IN CONTRACTOR INCREASE THAT YOU SEE EVERY YEAR WHEN A NEGOTIATION ON THAT. SO THAT'S KIND OF A DONE DEAL, TOO. BUT YOU ALL GOING TO ASK CATHY ABOUT IT. I MEAN, IT'S A PRETTY GOOD YEAR TO BE GOING INTO. SO TO MY UNDERSTANDING, THE FIRST BATCH, THERE'S NO IMPACT ON THE GENERAL FUND. SO WE GET IT IN YELLOW HAS ANYTHING NO IMPACT ON THE GENERAL FUND. MR. KEITH, RIGHT? OK. KEITH HAS A QUESTION, YES. I'M SORRY YOU'RE RECOGNIZED, JUSTICE KEITH. HUTCH, LOOKING AT ALMOST JUST OVER $5 MILLION INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR IN THE BUDGET AND THE TOTAL BUDGET. IS IT THE NORMAL OR IS THAT ON THE HIGH SIDE? OR IS THAT NORMALLY WHAT WE INCREASE THE INCREASES THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE PAST FEW [00:20:05] YEARS? SO GLAD YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION. THANK YOU. WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS A TWOFOLD THING. YOU GAVE A SALARY INCREASE IN JUNE, WHICH WAS HALF OF THAT BURDEN. OK, FOR 2022. YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE REMAINDER OF THAT BURDEN. NOW, THERE'S SOME THINGS TO TALK ABOUT DURING PROJECTIONS, WHICH I'M PROBABLY GOING TO BRING YOU THE END OF THIS WEEK OR THE FIRST OF NEXT WEEK WHEN WE GET THEM FINALIZED. THERE'S A COUPLE OF THIS MIGHT BE THE 800 POUND GORILLA IN THE ROOM THAT NEEDS TO BE TALKED ABOUT JAIL BILLING. THANK YOU. EVERYBODY IN HERE OR ALL THE JP'S IN HERE RECEIVED SOMETHING FROM THE SHERIFF SAYING, OH, WE WERE GOING TO COLLECT AN EXTRA $14 MILLION. YEAH, THOSE NUMBERS ARE WRONG. BAD. HE'S AWARE THEY'RE WORKING ON IT. THERE'S NOT AN EXTRA 14 MILLION. HERE'S WHERE YOU SIT RIGHT NOW WITH THAT ON A NORMAL YEAR FOR THE CITIES BEFORE THE LAW AND WENT FOR THE ORDINANCE WHERE WE BUILD THE CITIES. THERE WAS A CONTRACT THAT BROUGHT IN ABOUT $4 MILLION A YEAR. NOW THERE'S AN ORDINANCE IN THE STATE, IN A STATE LAW THAT SAYS YOU'VE GOT TO BUILD THOSE CITIES. TO BUILD THOSE CITIES. SHERIFF HAS TO PROVIDE THE INFORMATION, THE INFORMATION. I'M SORRY. WE'VE TOLD HIM THIS. HE'S AWARE HE'S LOOKED AT IT. IT'S FLAWED. CITIES AREN'T GOING TO PAY THAT. PLAIN AND SAMPLE, SO, AS IT IS THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PLAY IT. WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO IS THEY'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GOING TO SEND THEM A BILL IN JANUARY. THEY'RE GOING TO ARGUE THAT THAT BILL IS NOT CORRECT. I'LL SEND THEM ANOTHER BILL IN FEBRUARY SAYING, HEY, YOU ALL, THIS IS FOR JANUARY. NOW IT'S FEBRUARY, AND THEY'RE GOING TO SAY THAT BILL IS NOT CORRECT. WE'LL SEND THEM ANOTHER ONE IN MARCH AND SAY, HEY, YOU OWE US FOR JANUARY, FEBRUARY, AND NOW YOU OWE US FOR MARCH. THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, WE'RE SORRY THAT BILL IS NOT CORRECT. AT THAT POINT, WE TURN IT OVER TO THE ATTORNEYS. THE REASON THEY'RE GOING TO SAY THAT BILL IS NOT CORRECT IS BECAUSE NOTHING HE'S PRESENTED YET HAS BEEN CORRECT. SO IF I WERE THEM, I WOULDN'T PAY IT EITHER. SO I CANNOT PROJECT $14 MILLION. I CAN'T PROJECT THE $4 MILLION BECAUSE THEY HAVE I CAN'T COLLECT THAT BECAUSE THERE'S AN ORDINANCE SAYING WE PAY THAT THEY'RE DUE TO PAY BY PRISONER, SO I CAN'T COLLECT THE OTHER. SO I KNOW THAT YOU'VE ALREADY GONE OVER THIS WITH HIM. CORRECT? AND THE JUDGE HAS CONTACTED HIM. THE SHERIFF NEVER SENT ME A COPY OF HIS LITTLE FOLDER THING, SO I HAD TO GET THE NUMBER SECOND HAND. WHAT I DID SEE IS THE NUMBERS THAT THE CITIES WHEN THEY STARTED CALLING AND SAYING, THESE AREN'T RIGHT, SEND ME WHAT YOU THINK IS NOT RIGHT. WELL, WE HAVE A MR. KEITH HERE. SORRY, I'LL USE YOU AS AN EXAMPLE. HE WAS ARRESTED ON JUNE 1ST. WE KEPT HIM FROM JUNE 1ST TO JUNE 30TH. HE'S ON THE LIST THREE TIMES. YOU ALL BILLED US FOR 71 DAYS. HOW MANY DAYS ARE IN JUNE? IT WON'T BE 71. NOT 71. AND THERE'S NOT THREE OF HIM. YEAH. THAT'S ONE EXAMPLE. THERE'S A PROBLEM. WE'VE OFFERED HELP IN THE PAST. IT HAS BEEN DECLINED. I NO LONGER THERE FOR HELP. OFFER HELP. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ALL YOUR QUESTIONS AND TAKE CARE OF THAT. NOW, HERE'S WHAT YOU WANT TO KNOW, BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE ANY BAD NEWS EARLIER, SO MR. MCCOY ASKED ME HOW WE MAKE UP THE FOUR MILLION DOLLARS THAT I CAN'T BUILD THEM IN THE PROJECTIONS. COME ON, THIS IS EASY. I WAS GOING TO ASK. THIS CAN'T BE FUN. COME ON. SORRY. HOW DO WE COLLECT THAT $4 MILLION? OH, WE'RE NOT GOING TO COLLECT THAT FOUR MILLION DOLLARS? HOW DO WE MAKE IT UP? HOW DO WE MAKE IT UP? BECAUSE DURING THIS WHOLE COVID THING, THEY SENT US A FORMULA AND THEY SAID, HEY, YOU APPLY THIS FORMULA TO YOUR REVENUE IN 2019 AND YOUR REVENUE IN 2020, AND YOU TAKE THE DIFFERENCE AND YOU PLUG IT IN THIS FORMULA AND THAT IS YOUR LOST REVENUE AND YOU CAN CLAIM IT ON COVID ASKED ME HOW MUCH IT COMES OUT THERE FOR ME PERSONALLY. NOW THE BEAUTIFUL PART OF THAT AND THE PART THAT. REPEAT THE THE AMOUNT AGAIN? VERY CLOSE TO FOUR MILLION. OK. OK. THE PART THAT JUSTICE STOWERS ISN'T GOING TO LIKE ABOUT THIS IS THIS IS THE ONLY MONEY THAT HAS AN EARMARK ON IT THAT WE CAN'T SAVE. IT MUST BE SPENT. REDUCED REVENUE MUST BE THE REDUCED REVENUE PART MUST BE SPENT. [00:25:05] WE JUST MADE UP FOUR MILLION. SEE? GOOD NEWS POSITIVE. [INAUDIBLE]. YOU MENTIONED THAT THE ATTORNEYS WOULD HAVE TO BE INVOLVED, SO APPARENTLY WE'RE STILL NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO COLLECT AND IN THE WAY THAT WE SHOULD BE COLLECTING? CORRECT. OK. UNLESS BETWEEN NOW AND JANUARY ONE, THEY GET THEIR BILLING CORRECT, WHICH GIVES THEM THREE MONTHS. ALL RIGHT. JUST AS KEITH, YOU RECOGNIZED WELL. I WASN'T THROUGH, BUT I'M GLAD YOU PUT THAT OUT THERE. SO, HUTCH, SAY WITH THAT FORMULA, WITH THEIR REDUCED REVENUE, WE'RE ABLE TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT ALMOST $4 MILLION. WHEN WE ADD THAT TO THE BUDGET OR IF WE ACCEPT THIS BUDGET AT $83 MILLION, THEN AT SOME POINT, IF THAT $4 MILLION DOESN'T COME IN OR IS NOT ACTUALIZED, THEN WE'VE GOT A BUDGET OF $83 MILLION. BUT OUR REVENUE IS GOING TO BE IS NOT GOING TO BE THAT AMOUNT. THAT MONEY'S BEEN MADE UP. IT'S GOING TO BE MADE UP FOR THIS YEAR. BUT AT SOME POINT THAT MONEY IS GOING TO RUN OUT; CORRECT? CORRECT, BUT YOU'RE BEING CAUGHT BY THEN. OH, OH, OK. LISTEN, T STATE LAW, THE LAW SAYS THEY HAVE TO PAY. IT'S ALREADY BEEN DECIDED. IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN THROUGH FEDERAL, IT'S BEEN THROUGH EVERYBODY. THEY'VE GOT TO PAY. OK, BUT AND I'M NOT. I'M NOT DEFENDING THE CITY ON THIS, BUT LET'S TAKE THEIR POINT OF VIEW FOR A MINUTE. YOU SENT ME A BILL. IT'S INCORRECT. ARE YOU GOING TO PAY IT? NO. SO YOU HAVE TO CORRECT YOUR BILL. GET THAT WORKED THROUGH THEN I'LL BILL YOU, THEN HAVE TO PAY US. YOUR REVENUE WILL BE MADE UP. RIGHT? BUT I GUESS THE GIST OF IT ONCE IT'S ADDED ONCE THE EXPENSES ARE OR ONCE THE BUDGET IS APPROVED AT THIS LEVEL, AT SOME POINT THAT REVENUE WILL HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEW EXPENSES. YES, SIR. THAT'S WHAT MY PROJECTIONS ARE GOING TO BE, RIGHT? OK. YEAH, YEAH. I'M NOT GIVING YOU A BUDGET THAT YOU CAN'T PAY FOR IN THE FUTURE. OK. HMM. AND BRIAN, YOU WERE SAYING THE SAME THING, BUT YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE PART THAT EVEN IF YOU. HERE'S ANOTHER WAY LOOKING AT IF WE WERE COLLECTING THE FOUR MILLION OR THE 14 OR ANYTHING ELSE, YOU'D HAVE AN EXTRA THREE, SEVEN OR SOMETHING. YOU WOULD HAVE TO PLUG IN THERE SOMEWHERE AND SAY YOU SPENT IT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SAVE IT . RIGHT. SO I GUESS WHAT I'M LOOKING AT OR MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE'RE LOOKING AT REVENUE PROJECTIONS FOR 2022 OF AT LEAST 83 MILLION PLUS. OK. YEAH. I'M NOT GOING TO BRING YOU A BUDGET THAT MY PROJECTIONS WON'T SUPPORT. SO EVEN WITH IF WE LOOK AT ALL OF THESE, I THINK THE 10 BUDGETS THAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO LOOK AT AND CONSIDER APPROVING, EVEN IF WE APPROVED THEM AT THAT AMOUNT, WE WOULD STILL HAVE THE MONEY PROJECTED MONEY TO? WELL, THE ONES YOU'RE LOOKING AT. LET'S DON'T MIX UP FUNDS BECAUSE A COUPLE OF YOUR BIGGIES AREN'T IN COUNTY GENERAL FUNDS . RIGHT? YEAH, I SEE THAT. BUT LET'S GO BACK TO YOUR POINT 83 MILLION. NOW YOU'VE GOT A PRETTY BIG INCREASE IN THE JAIL. RIGHT. AND YOU'VE GOT A PRETTY BIG INCREASE IN ENFORCEMENT. RIGHT, I SAW THAT, THREE MILLION. SOME OF THESE OTHER ONES YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO WHITTLE ON A LITTLE BIT MIGHT BE ABLE TO WORK DOWN MY ABILITY TO DO SOMETHING WITH LOWER THAN THAT ANY BIT THAT YOU DO. I APPLAUD YOU BECAUSE THAT MAKES MY LIFE EASIER, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO BRING YOU A BUDGET WE CAN'T SUPPORT. OK, THAT'S FINE. I'VE BEEN ON A GOOD ROLL HERE. I DON'T WANT TO MESS THAT UP. THANK YOU, I YIELD. THANK YOU. AND JUSTICE KEITH, JUSTICE MCCOY YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. JUSTICE CONEY,IS THAT ANY WAY WE CAN GET A TRACKING SYSTEM? I THOUGHT WHEN INMATES COME IN. IT IS TRACKED. OH, APPARENTLY, THEY'RE NOT ASKING THE SYSTEM THE RIGHT QUESTIONS. OH, OK. THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD. BUT LIKE I SAID, WE OFFERED HELP, GOT NO, NOBODY WANTED ANY HELP, THEY GOT IT UNDER CONTROL. THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT. THEREFORE, WE'RE NOT GETTING ANYWHERE? NO, I MEAN, WHY WOULD THEY? NO, YOU WOULDN'T DO THIS. AND IF SOMEBODY SENT US A BILL, IF THIS IS THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TABLE, I'D BE SITTING [00:30:02] HERE TELLING YOU, WE'RE NOT PAYING THAT. NOT UNTIL I'M MADE TO. NOT UNTIL I FEEL THE BILL IS CORRECT. AND HERE WE GO. THE COURTS HAVE ALREADY SAID YOU'RE GOING TO PAY IT IF THEY COULD COME BACK WITH SOME CORRECT BILLING, THE CITIES WILL AGREE AND MAYBE WE DON'T END UP IN COURT. THEY GET THEIR STUFF TOGETHER BETWEEN NOW AND JANUARY 1, WHERE WE CAN BILL AND YOU GIVE THE CITY TIME TO LOOK AT IT AND GO, YEAH, OK, THAT MAKES SENSE. THEN THERE'S, WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY IN COURT, BUT AT THE RATE WE'RE GOING RIGHT NOW WITH THE STUFF, THE INFORMATION THE CITIES ARE GETTING ON A BILL. YEAH, WE'RE IN THE COURT. MIGHT BE A SHORT TRIAL, BUT WE'RE GOING TO COURT. OKAY. THANK YOU, JUSTICE CONEY. JUSTICE GREEN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. YES, I JUST WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION FOR SHERIFF. YOU NEED TO SPEAK INTO THE MIC SO WE CAN HEAR YOU. SHERIFF CALLED ME TODAY AND THE MONEY THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE GETTING ON IT. WELL, HE THINKS THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET IT THOUGH, DOESN'T HE? I'M SURE HE DOES. BECAUSE HE WANTS TO HIRE ALL THESE NEW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND GIVE RAISES TO EVERYBODY. AND I ASK HIM, WHERE'S ALL THIS MONEY COMING FROM? AND EXACTLY WHAT YOU JUST SAID, THAT'S WHERE IT'S COMING FROM THESE CITIES. AND YOU'RE TALKING, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT JANUARY FOUR, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT HE'S PLANNING ON BRINGING THIS IN THE NEXT MONTH TO US. HE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. LET ME SAY THAT RIGHT NOW. I CANNOT PROJECT THAT AMOUNT. YOU DON'T HAVE THAT MONEY. THERE IS NOT AN ONGOING REVENUE STREAM TO SUPPORT WHAT HE WANTS TO DO. I DIDN'T THINK SO. I ASKED HIM IF HE TALK TO THE JUDGE. I ASKED HIM IF HE HAD TALKED TO THE JUDGE ABOUT THIS, AND HE SAID HE'S ON BOARD WITH IT. YOU MIGHT WANT TO GIVE THE JUDGE CALL. LISTEN, THE JUDGE IS ON BOARD WITH BILLING THE CITIES. THAT'S WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN. WE'VE GOT TO BUILD THE CITIES. THAT THE JUDGE IS ON BOARD WITH. THAT PART, THAT'S ACCURATE. WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT DOING. THAT MONEY IS NOT GOING TO BE THERE, THERE'S NOT. WHEN I DID THE ROUGH NUMBERS, I DIDN'T COME UP WITH 14 MILLION. I COME UP WITH SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN THAT. AND THAT'S JUST ROUGH NUMBERS BASED ON WHAT LIMITED INFORMATION I CAN SEE. IF WE'RE PLEASANTLY SURPRISED SOMEHOW, AND ALL THIS WORKS OUT IN THE CITY GOES WELL, YES, WE'LL START MAILING CHECKS IN JANUARY. GREAT. YOU ALL KNOW THE DEAL, YOU MOVED HIM TO 125 PERCENT OF THAT PAY SCALE, WHICH IS WHAT HE'S ADVOCATING. THEN YOU'RE GOING TO SEE MS. BUCKNER, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE JUDGE HYDE, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE MS. WARD. ESPECIALLY THE PROSECUTING ATTORNEY, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOME JUDGES. I DON'T SEE EVERYBODY. I'LL JUST BE SITTING OVER WATCHING, BUT I MEAN, YOU ALL GOT TO TALK TO HIM AND I'M GOOD WITH THAT, TOO. SO. JUSTICE ELLIOTT, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. I WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT 3046, AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN. YEAH? WELL, HE WENT UP A LITTLE BIT. YEAH. WHAT ITEM NUMBER ARE YOU REFERRING TO? OH, YOU KNOW THAT'S BRAND NEW. THAT'S THE ONE YOU'VE BEEN DOING THIS MORNING. THAT'S SO I DON'T HAVE TO COME TO YOUR EVERY MONTH AND GO, HEY, I NEED A LITTLE MONEY SO WE CAN WE CAN PAY THESE BILLS. I JUST WANT TO KIND OF PULL THAT OUT, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE I WAS THINKING THAT THROUGH, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE I WAS RIGHT. BECAUSE IT WENT TO, YOU KNOW, QUITE A BIT. WELL, IN A SENSE OF SPEAKING. WELL, LAST YEAR YEAH. YEAH, BUT I JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU, YOU KNOW, THIS PAST MONTH YOU ALL DID $3 MILLION INTO THAT. SO. OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JUSTICE ELLIOTT. JUSTICE MCCOY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED JUST TO MAKE SURE I HEARD THIS CORRECT, THIS ORDINANCE, 21-OR17 WAS THE TWO PERCENT RAISE? OKAY. THAT'S ALL. I TRIED TO LOOK IT UP, BUT THE WEBSITE DOESN'T ALLOW ME TO, I GUESS. OK, IF THERE BE NO MORE QUESTIONS, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO OUR GRANTS, AS IS TRADITION. [5. CONSENT PASSAGE FOR DEPARTMENT REQUESTS] WE NORMALLY VOTE ON THOSE AS A WHOLE BECAUSE THERE IS NO IMPACT ON THE GENERAL FUND. YEAH. ALL THESE GRANTS ARE THE ONES THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR. [00:35:06] THEY'VE BEEN VERIFIED. THE AMOUNTS ARE SOLID. SOME WENT DOWN. SOME WENT UP. SOME STAYED THE SAME. DO I HAVE A MOTION? TO MOVE GRANTS FORWARD. I SECOND. [INAUDIBLE]. SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? I WOULD THINK NOT, BUT IF THERE BE ANY DISCUSSION ON OUR GRANTS, THERE WOULD BE. THE ONE VOTE IS GOING TO BE FOR EVERY GRANT. WE'VE LUMPED THEM INTO ONE. LUMPED THEM ALL TOGETHER. THAT'S THE LAST TWO PAGES IN YOUR, OF THE OF THE COLORFUL ONES. THAT WOULD BE DEPARTMENTS 2900-3806 WOULD BE IN THE BATCH. AND I THINK MS. MASSEY HAS EXPLAINED AS WELL THAT IF THERE'S ANY PARTICULAR ITEM THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE REMOVED FROM THE BATCH TO BE VOTED ON SEPARATELY, YOU'RE FREE TO DO THAT. I GUESS THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. AMY, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? . EIGHT TO ZERO. THANK YOU. SO OUR GRANTS, DEPARTMENTS 2900-3806 WILL GO TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT FOR FINAL APPROVAL. WE ARE NOW MOVING ON TO OUR NON GENERAL FUND BUDGETS. AND WE CAN HEAR THOSE, IF YOU SO DESIRE IN A LUMP SUM. THE NON GENERAL FUND AND GENERAL FUND BUDGETS THAT ARE IN YELLOW. AND GENERAL FUND BUDGETS. THANK YOU FOR THE CORRECTION. CAN WE GET A MOTION TO APPROVE? MOVED AND PROPERLY SECOND. ARE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. IF THERE BE NONE, AMY, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? {ROLL CALL}. EIGHT TO ZERO. THIS WILL GO FORWARD TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT FOR FINAL APPROVAL. [6. OTHER BUSINESS] OK, GUYS, REAL QUICK. I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN GIVEN SORT OF THE RUNDOWN OF OUR TENTATIVE SCHEDULE FOR THE MONTH. ON THURSDAY, OCTOBER 14TH, WE HAD THREE DEPARTMENTS THAT WERE SCHEDULED. ONE OF THOSE HAS ACTUALLY BEEN RESOLVED. SO AFTER TALKING WITH MS. MASSEY, I'M CURIOUS IF YOU GUYS WOULD BE WILLING TO MOVE DEPARTMENTS. 436 AND 430 TO THURSDAY NIGHT, OCTOBER 7TH? THOSE ARE 9TH DIVISION JUDGE GILL AND FOURTEENTH DIVISION JUDGE SHAWN JOHNSON. WE COULD EXPLAIN WHEN WE GET THERE, BUT I THINK IF WE COULD EXPEDITE THAT AND THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE TO JUST CONDENSE THEM INTO THAT ONE NIGHT. SO IF THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS TO THAT, WE CAN MAKE THE CORRECTIONS TO THE CALENDAR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MS. MASSEY. THAT CONCLUDES OUR MEETING FOR THE EVENING. CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN? I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING. CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MOVED AND PROPERLY SECOND. OK, CAN I GET? [Announcements] NOW WE HAVE ANNOUNCEMENTS. YES, I RECOGNIZE JUDGE SHAWN JOHNSON, WHO COULDN'T BE HERE THURSDAY NIGHT. STAND UP SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE YOU. HE JUST CAME IN BECAUSE HE HE JUST WANTED TO MAKE HIS PRESENCE KNOWN SINCE HE COULDN'T BE HERE THURSDAY NIGHT. IS THERE ANY COMMENTS OR ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE BEFORE THE BODY? OTHER THAN TO JUST SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC SERVICE, EVERYONE. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR UNIFIED SUPPORT AS WE WORK TO SERVE THE PEOPLE OF THIS COMMUNITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY OTHER COMMENTS. OR IS THERE? IF THERE BE NONE? YOU ARE ADJOURNED. SEE YOU THURSDAY AT 5:30. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.