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[1. CALL TO ORDER]
IT'S TIME TO GET OUR BUDGET HEARING UNDERWAY, EXCUSE ME, FOR THE LATENESS OF THE TARDINESS OF OUR STARTING.AMY, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? WE DO HAVE A QUORUM FOR TONIGHT.
[3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
CAN WE GET APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES? SO MOVED.SECOND. MOVED AND PROPERLY SECOND THOSE IN FAVOR LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. ANY NAYS. NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO OUR DEPARTMENTS.
[4. DEPARTMENT BUDGETS FOR CONSIDERATION]
LET ME MAKE A FRIENDLY SUGGESTION THAT WE HEAR DEPARTMENT 3019, WHICH IS A SHERIFF WATER PATROL FIRST, THERE IS REALLY NO THERE'S NO IMPACT ON OUR GENERAL BUDGET, GENERAL FUND.SO IF WE CAN HEAR THAT FIRST AND APPROVE THAT, THEN WE CAN GET BACK INTO THE OTHER ITEMS. SECOND [INAUDIBLE].
UP, IT DOESN'T HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE GENERAL FUND.
IT'S ONE OF THOSE SEQUESTERED FUNDS THAT Y'ALL SHOULD HAVE TAKEN UP ON THAT FIRST NIGHT AND IT GOT LEFT OFF THE LIST.
YES, MA'AM. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? THANK YOU, MA'AM. 3019 TO THE FULL [INAUDIBLE] WITH THE DO FAST RECOMMENDATION.
SECOND. MOVED AND PROPERLY SECOND, ARE THERE ANY QUESTION OR COMMENT? IF THERE BE NONE.
AMY, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? MS. LEWISON.
THIS WILL GO TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT FOR FINAL APPROVAL.
DEPARTMENT NUMBER 400 THE SHERIFF ENFORCEMENT.
DO WE HAVE SOMEONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO US ? GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS MAJOR SIMON HAYNES WITH PULASKI COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. IT'S NICE TO BE BACK WITH YOU AGAIN THIS YEAR.
WE'VE WE'RE ASKING FOR SOME, SOME ADDITIONS TO OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR.
A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM LAST YEAR.
ITEM ON LINE ITEM TWENTY TWENTY THREE PARTS AND REPAIR.
WE WERE ASKING FOR AN INCREASE FROM 100000 TO 170.
THE MAJORITY OF THIS LINE ITEM IS USED FOR VEHICLE MAINTENANCE.
OUR FEET, OUR FLEET IS BEGINNING TO AGE.
THERE'S BEEN AN INCREASE IN COST OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS IN THIS IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA WITH A LIMITED PRODUCTION OF VEHICLES.
WE PREDICT THE COST IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO RISE FOR US.
JUST TO GIVE YOU A QUICK EXAMPLE.
VEHICLES THAT WE ORDERED LAST YEAR ARE JUST NOW SHOWING UP.
SO TRANSMISSIONS, TIRES, ALL THAT STUFF, IT ADDS UP.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE LOOKING FOR AN INCREASE IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
I'LL SAY OUR INTERNET USAGE IS BECOMING MORE AND MORE WITH OUR WITH OUR CARS, OUR OTHER EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE.
THERE'S A LOT MORE FEES INVOLVED WITH THAT.
WE'RE ASKING TO GO FROM 15000 TO 22000.
OUR GAS UTILITIES, HISTORICALLY, WE'VE BEEN UNDER BUDGETED ON THIS.
WE OBVIOUSLY TOOK A BIG HIT THIS YEAR, LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE DID DURING THE ICE STORM.
DIFFERENCE IS, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE WE'RE WE'RE 24/7 OPERATION.
WE PROBABLY FEEL WE NEED ABOUT AN ADDITIONAL 10000 IS REALLY WHERE WE KIND OF COME IN ON OUR MARK ON THAT, ON THAT PARTICULAR UTILITY.
WE'RE ASKING FOR LIABILITY SAKE ON THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE.
THERE'S 130 OR 128 SWORN INDIVIDUALS.
WE TRY TO DO ALL OUR IN-SERVICE TRAINING CLASSES OURSELVES.
WE REALLY DO HAVE TO SEND PEOPLE OUT FOR THAT.
I BELIEVE OUR EXPENDITURE RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT WE'RE AT 25000.
SO WE'RE OBVIOUSLY GETTING TAKING MONEY FROM OTHER AREAS OF OUR BUDGET TO COMPENSATE FOR THIS. WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR A $10000 INCREASE TO 30000.
THE BIG ONE FOR US IS GOING TO BE OUR COMPUTER SOFTWARE.
THIS IS REALLY WHERE THE CAMERAS ARE FOR THE CARS RIGHT NOW WITH THE AMOUNT THAT YOU THAT WE WE'VE BEEN DOING THE CAMERA SYSTEM FOR THREE YEARS NOW.
WE'RE GOING TO BE ON OUR THIRD PAYMENT THIS YEAR.
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OF THAT FIVE YEAR CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE WITH THEM, WE'VE GONE IT ALONE EXCEPT FOR ABOUT 440000 THAT WE'VE HAD IN GRANTS.WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS END OF THIS MONTH.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY 700 AND AROUND $760000 FOR THE CAMERAS.
THEY HAVE HELPED US TREMENDOUSLY.
IT HAS HELPED US STAY OUT OF SOME LITIGATION INVOLVING SOME POTENTIAL LAWSUITS BY ACTUALLY DOCUMENTING WHAT REALLY DID HAPPEN.
THERE'S BEEN SOME ALLEGATIONS OF MISCONDUCT THAT VERY EASY TO PROVE THAT THAT WAS NOT THE CASE. WE'RE USING THEM IN THE JAIL.
IT IS JUST A PLUS ALL THE WAY ACROSS FOR US AND WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE IN OUR CARS.
THERE'S A LOT OF POSITIVES INVOLVED WITH THAT PROGRAM.
WE'VE HAD TO BASICALLY PAY FOR THAT OURSELVES FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS.
WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR SOME HELP ON THAT.
AND IT IS A SIGN OF THE FUTURE.
IT IS WHAT ALL THE OTHER LOCAL DEPARTMENTS ARE DOING.
AND WHAT WE BASICALLY HAVE IS, I WOULD THINK IS ONE OF THE BEST SYSTEMS OUT THERE AND IT'S PAID DIVIDENDS FOR US.
THAT'S CONCLUDES WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.
OK, THANK YOU. JUSTICE STOWERS AND THEN JUSTICE ELLIOTT, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
THANK YOU, MAJOR HAYNES, FOR THAT EXPLANATION.
AND THANK YOU FOR THE GOOD CONVERSATION WAS ABLE TO HAVE WITH YOU A FEW DAYS AGO REGARDING YOUR BUDGET. THERE WAS ONE THING I GUESS THAT SLIPPED PAST ME IN THAT CONVERSATION THAT I JUST WANT TO ASK A FOLLOW UP QUESTION REGARDING.
AND THAT IS THE COMPUTER SOFTWARE AND THAT.
MY QUESTION IS, DID I UNDERSTAND YOU TO SAY THAT THE INCREASE HERE OF RIGHT AT FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND IS BECAUSE THAT HAS BEEN FUNDED PREVIOUS IN PREVIOUS YEARS BY GRANT FUNDS? VERY, VERY LITTLE OF IT HAS.
ACTUALLY, THERE'S BEEN TO DATE 291 THOUSAND IN GRANT FUNDS FOR THAT.
SO IF YOU DIVIDE THAT, I THINK THE FIRST YEAR WE WERE A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN 200 THOUSAND. THAT WAS THE MAJORITY OF THE PAYMENT LAST YEAR.
I THINK WE WERE RIGHT AT EIGHTY NINE THOUSAND AND WE'LL FINISH OFF THIS YEAR WITH ABOUT 42 OR 43 THOUSAND ON THE GRANT AND THEN THE GRANT WILL NOT BE THERE ANYMORE.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY HELP THAT WE REALLY HAD.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FIRST BILL THAT WE PAID WAS 1.2 MILLION.
THE SECOND ONE WAS UPWARDS OF SEVEN HUNDRED, ALMOST 800 THOUSAND.
AND THIS ONE WILL BE ABOUT, I THINK, SEVEN HUNDRED AND SIXTY.
THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE IT TO ME THIS WEEK.
SO. SO WHERE DID THE MONEY COME FROM TO PAY THIS AMOUNT IN THE YEARS PAST? BASICALLY ROB PETER TO PAY PAUL THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET TO BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU, WE'VE DONE WITHOUT CERTAIN THINGS TO MAKE TO MAKE IT.
SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, FIRST OF ALL, I'M A HUGE FAN AND PROPONENT OF BODY CAMERAS AND OF DASH CAMERAS. I BELIEVE THEY PROTECT THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER AS WELL AS PROTECTING THE CITIZENRY. IT KEEPS EVERYBODY, I THINK, HONEST, AND IF WE ALL KNOW WE'RE BEING RECORDED ON EITHER SIDE OR ANY SIDE, WE'RE WE'RE LESS APT TO MISBEHAVE.
SO WHEN WE WHEN I LOOK AT THIS OVERALL BUDGET OF TWELVE POINT SIX MILLION AND THE INCREASE KNOWING THAT THE MAJORITY OF THAT INCREASE IS DUE TO THE FOUR PERCENT RAISE THAT WE GAVE TO OUR EMPLOYEES ACROSS THE BOARD, I THINK ALL OF YOUR OTHER EXPLANATIONS MAKE PERFECT SENSE.
YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GOING TO SPEND MORE ON CAR MAINTENANCE AS WE ALL ARE BECAUSE DRIVE BY A CAR LOT, THERE'S NOT ANY CARS OUT THERE TO BE HAD RIGHT NOW.
SO I THINK GOING DOWN THE LIST OF YOUR JUSTIFICATION HERE.
HAVING SAID THAT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SEND BUDGET 400 TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT WITH THE DO PASS RECOMMENDATION.
SECOND. OK. IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECOND, THAT WE SEND BUDGET ITEM FOUR HUNDRED TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT.
WE STILL HAVE SOME COMMENTS, I BELIEVE, OR QUESTIONS.
SO JUSTICE ELLIOTT, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
HOW MANY NEW VEHICLES DO YOU THINK YOU'LL BE GETTING? WE'RE IN RECEIPT.
WE HAVE ONE MORE TO COME FOR THIS YEAR.
WE PLAN TO BUY 20 VEHICLES FOR NEXT YEAR.
AND PROBABLY THE YEAR AFTER THAT, WE'LL CONTINUE DOWN THAT THAT ROAD.
IN ALL MY CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR STATE CONTRACTED CAR DEALERS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE VEHICLES ARE VERY HARD TO GET RIGHT NOW, SO WE'RE FACING THAT PROBLEM.
HOW MANY CAMERAS WILL WE PULASKI COUNTY HAVE WILL Y'ALL HAVE NOW? WE HAVE AS FAR AS BODY CAMERAS, 245 BODY CAMERAS, 121 CAMERAS THAT ARE IN PATROL CARS,
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TRANSPORT VANS AND TRANSPORT BUSSES.ALL RIGHT. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.
JUSTICE KEITH, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
THANK YOU. I GUESS THIS WILL BE QUICK AND PAINLESS, I HOPE.
THANK YOU MAJOR HYNES, JUST CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING WHEN WE WHEN WE WERE FIRST TALKING ABOUT THE BODY CAMERAS THAT THEY WOULD ACTUALLY BE PAID FOR IN THE ENTIRETY THROUGH GRANTS.
NO, THAT'S THAT NEVER HAS BEEN THE CASE.
THAT WAS JUST THAT WAS REALLY JUST TO HELP US.
IT'S NEVER WAS GOING TO PAY FOR THE ENTIRETY.
WE ARE STILL SEEKING ADDITIONAL GRANTS.
THE THING ABOUT BODY CAMERAS, SIR, IS THAT IT'S NOT THE CAMERAS ARE THEMSELVES.
IT'S THE STORAGE THAT REALLY COSTS SO MUCH.
AND YOU'RE SEEING NOW THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS REALIZING THAT AND IS THERE ARE THEY'RE BEGINNING TO PUT GRANTS OUT THERE, ESPECIALLY DESIGNED FOR STORAGE.
THIS PARTICULAR GRANT THAT WE GOT WAS JUST REALLY FOR THE PURCHASE OF THE CAMERAS.
IT'S THE STORAGE, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT WE'RE PAYING FOR HERE.
ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY OF THE THE QUORUM COURT MEMBERS REALIZING THAT YOU WERE ROBBING PETER TO PAY PAUL WHEN YOU WERE PAYING FOR THE CAMERAS? WELL, I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY COMMONPLACE FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO MOVE MONEY AROUND INSIDE YOUR BUDGET. YOU HAVE THE DISCRETION TO MOVE MONEY WITHIN LINE ITEMS WHEN NEEDED.
THESE LINE ITEMS ARE RATHER GENERAL AT TIMES.
RIGHT. ABSOLUTELY. AND YOU KNOW, WHEN WE SAY ROB PETER TO PAY PAUL, WE MAY HAVE TO DO WITHOUT SOME THINGS IN ORDER TO HAVE SOME THINGS.
AND I AGREE WITH YOU A LOT OF TIMES THESE LINE ITEMS ARE GENERAL AND THEY DO OFFER A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY. BUT I GUESS MY CONCERN IS ONE AND MAYBE I'M THE ONLY ONE ON THE QUORUM COURT THAT THOUGHT ASSUMED THAT THESE THESE CAMERAS WERE BEING PAID FOR TOTALLY ENTIRELY BY GRANT FUNDS.
SO. SO I MAY BE THE ONLY ONE THAT THOUGHT THAT.
AND IF THAT'S TRUE, THAT'S THAT'S FINE.
BUT MY CONCERN IS WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE PETER NO LONGER HAS ANY MONEY FOR US TO ROB FROM AND PAUL IS REQUESTING THE MONEY, THEN WHAT DO WE DO? AND IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, AND I KNOW WE'RE ON THIS BUDGET, BUT I SEE ANOTHER BUDGET THAT'S ALSO COMING THROUGH FOR THE SAME, AND IT'S QUITE A BIT MORE AND I ASSUME IT'S FOR THE SAME AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DETENTION.
SO I ASSUME IT'S FOR THE SAME SAME LINE ITEM.
CORRECT. THE CAMERA. THE CAMERAS ARE SPLIT BETWEEN THE TWO.
RIGHT. SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S ONLY 425 THOUSAND HERE, IF I'M READING THE NEXT BUDGET CORRECTLY, THAT'S QUITE A BIT MORE IF I'M LOOKING AT IT CORRECTLY.
WAS IT LAST YEAR AT SOME POINT IN THE LAST YEAR, WE'VE HAD A DISCUSSION, A MEETING ABOUT.
I THINK INITIALLY SOME SOME REIMBURSEMENTS WERE WERE REQUESTED AND THEY WENT TO THE WRONG BANK ACCOUNT OR SOMETHING.
DID WE EVER GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF? OH, ABSOLUTELY 100 PERCENT.
YEAH, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO ISSUE WITH WITH ANY OF THOSE FIGURES WHATSOEVER.
AND THAT ALL WAS SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINES OF IT BEING SENT TO A CLOSED ACCOUNT.
RIGHT. AND ACTUALLY, I THINK FELL MORE ON THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SIDE THAN IT DID ANYONE HERE. AND THEN WE RAN INTO THE TROUBLE, OBVIOUSLY, THAT THEN THEY CHANGED THEIR ENTIRE SYSTEM, THAT IT WAS DOWN FOR SEVERAL MONTHS, WHICH WAS RIGHT DURING THE BUDGET TIME.
SO OBVIOUSLY THAT WAS A RED FLAG FOR EVERYBODY.
BUT IF YOU GO LOOK AT THAT TODAY, THAT HAS ALL BEEN TAKEN CARE OF WAS TAKEN CARE OF AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
AND REMIND ME, YOU SAY, I KNOW THE FIRST YOU MADE THE FIRST AND SECOND PAYMENT.
IS THIS A THIRD AND FINAL PAYMENT? IS THAT CORRECT? NO, IT'S A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT.
IT'S A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT, SO WE STILL GOT WE WOULD HAVE YEAR FOUR AND FIVE THAT WE'D HAVE TO PAY AS WELL. ABSOLUTELY.
DO WE KNOW THE AMOUNTS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY IN THOSE YEARS AS WELL? CORRECT. WELL, YES, THEY'RE ALL.
THEY'RE ALL GOING TO BE AROUND THAT 760 MARK.
AND WHAT YOU PAY FOR IS LICENSING.
SO IF WE IF WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE IN MORE AREAS WE WANT TO COVER, THEN WE'LL HAVE TO PAY FOR MORE LICENSING TO HAVE INDIVIDUALS WHERE THEY LOG ON TO IT.
AND SO THERE MAY BE A SLIGHT INCREASE ON THAT.
BUT AS FAR AS YOUR GENERAL BIG NUMBER, THAT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT PRETTY CLOSE TO WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE. SO IF THE PAYMENT IS OVER $700000, THEN I'M LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY FOUR HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS IN THIS LINE ITEM, WHERE IS THE REMAINDER
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OF THE PAYMENT COMING FROM? WELL, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS THREE HUNDRED AND SIXTY THOUSAND OUT OF THAT AND YOU STILL LOOKING AT FOUR HUNDRED OR FIVE HUNDRED OR FOUR EIGHTEEN.I'M LOOKING AT LINE ITEM 3102 AND YOU'RE REQUESTING FOUR HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS IN YOUR STATEMENT WAS IT'S A 700 PLUS THOUSAND DOLLAR NOTE.
AND I'M ASKING WHERE THE REMAINDER OF THE 700000 WHAT LINE ITEM IS IT COMING FROM? WELL, IT COMES FROM THE 418.
YOU GOT 400, WHICH IS THIS OH, SO IT'S ANOTHER BUDGET? YES, IT COMES OUT OF 418.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THE 418 BUDGET. OH, OK.
OK. SPLIT IT BETWEEN THE TWO, OK, WE HAVE WE HAVE HALF THE CAMERAS AND SO FORTH IN THE JAIL.
OK, THEN WE HAVE HALF OF THEM IN THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE, WHICH ACTUALLY JUST A SIDEBAR.
WE'RE ONE OF THE FIRST ONE OF THE FIRST COUNTIES ACTUALLY PUT CAMERAS IN THE JAIL AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT THAT HAVE FOLLOWED SUIT SINCE AND IT'S BECOME A PRETTY BIG NATIONAL THING. SO.
JUST CURIOUS. AND OF COURSE, I'M ONLY ONE VOTE OF 15 PEOPLE.
FOR SOME REASON THE THE COUNTY DID NOT APPROVE THAT EXPENDITURE, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THOSE CAMERAS? WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? WELL, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT WE WOULD.
I THINK THE SHERIFF'S COMMITMENT IS PRETTY STRONG, THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY, WHICH CAMERAS PROVIDE.
I WOULD HOPE THAT THIS BODY WOULD FEEL THE SAME WAY.
THIS WAS AN ADDED FEATURE TO OUR BUDGET TWO YEARS AGO.
AND JUDGING BY WHAT'S GOING ON NATIONALLY, I WOULD HOPE THAT PEOPLE HERE WOULD REALIZE IT IS ACTUALLY BEING LAW ENFORCEMENT.
NOWADAYS, IT IS A NECESSITY TO HAVE THIS AND WOULD HOPE THAT WE COULD SEE FIT TO FUNDING THIS. IF NOT, WE WOULD DO WHAT WE'VE DONE FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS IS SOME PLACES WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO CUT BACK A LITTLE BIT, TIGHTEN OUR PURSE STRINGS AND SEE.
BUT WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
WE'RE ASKING FOR A LITTLE HELP FROM THE QUORUM COURT.
WE WERE HOPING THAT THE TWO YEARS THAT WE PROVE THAT THIS CAMERA SYSTEM IS BENEFICIAL.
OBVIOUSLY, LITTLE CITY OF LITTLE ROCK IS GOING TO A CAMERA SYSTEM.
EVERY AGENCY AROUND HERE HAS A CAMERA SYSTEM NOW.
WE LED THE PACK ON THAT AND I WOULD HOPE THAT EVERYONE WILL SEE FIT TO TO HELP US OUT ON THAT. OK.
AND THIS IS THIS WILL BE MY FINAL QUESTION ON THIS ONE.
I'M LOOKING AT 3102 AND IT LAST YEAR YOU ONLY HAD SIXTY FIVE THOUSAND THREE SIXTY IN THAT IN THAT ACTUAL ACCOUNT.
SO AGAIN, I'M ASSUMING YOU MOVE MONEY AROUND TO PAY THE ACTUAL NOTE.
IT DIDN'T COME SPECIFICALLY OUT OF THIS THIS LINE ITEM? WELL, AS IT GETS DOWN TO ACCOUNTS PAYABLE, SOMETIMES THEY REQUIRE IT TO BE MOVED INTO A DIFFERENT AREA. IT'S IT CAN BE DEBATABLE AT TIMES WITH THEM, BUT BASICALLY, I THINK WITH THIS, I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY CORRECT THAT IT WAS A DIFFERENT LINE ITEM.
BUT THIS IS A LINE ITEM I'M GONNA USE THIS YEAR, TO PUT IT.
BUT YOU REST ASSURED THAT THAT 360000, THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TOWARDS THE THE CAMERA PURCHASES. IF IF THEY CODE SOMETHING A PARTICULAR WAY, WE END UP HAVING TO TALK TO LEGISLATIVE AUDIT THROUGHOUT THE WEEK, EVERY WEEK.
IF THEY CODE SOMETHING A PARTICULAR WAY OR LEGISLATIVE AUDIT CALLS US AND SAYS WE'D RATHER YOU DO IT A DIFFERENT WAY.
AND WE HAVE TO CONTACT THEM OR ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT AND WE MAKE A CHANGE.
IF THEY DO THAT, THEN THEY KNOW WHERE THAT CHANGE IS GOING TO BE AND THEY CAN MOVE THAT MONEY AROUND INSIDE THAT BUDGET TO FIX THAT.
JUSTICE KEITH, JUSTICE GREEN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
I'M SURE YOU ALL WILL CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
AND IF YOU COULD SPEAK INTO I'M SURE YOU ALL WILL CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
BUT I SPECIFICALLY REMEMBER WHEN SHERIFF HIGGINS CAME TO US ABOUT THESE BODY CAMS. AND HE SAID THAT THEY WERE PAID FOR BY GRANTS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL REMEMBER ME ASKING HIM, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING IN WRITING OR SOMETHING SPECIFIC WHERE THEY'RE PROMISING TO BUY TO PAY FOR THESE BODY CAMS? AND HE SAID YES.
DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER THAT? GRANTS TO PAY FOR THEM.
SO. MAJOR HAYNES? YES, MA'AM. COULD YOU RECAP WHAT YOU STATED? COULD YOU RECAP WHAT YOU STATED IN REFERENCE TO THE BODY CAMS. RIGHT.
FOR A SECOND? YES. GO AHEAD. I THINK THE BODY CAMERAS HAVE BEEN PAID FOR.
THIS IS THE STORAGE OF THE DATA FROM THE BODY CAMERAS.
I THINK THE GRANT YOU'RE REMEMBERING WAS TO ACTUALLY GET THE CAMERAS ACTUAL PHYSICAL
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CAMERA. THE ISSUE'S BEEN AND WAS ALWAYS GOING TO BE THE HUGE AMOUNT OF DATA THIS THING GATHERS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SAVE IN CASE YOUR FOI.IN WHICH JUST TO BE CLEAR, AND I MAY NOT HAVE BEEN CLEAR WITH YOU THE MONEY FOR THAT AND WHAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ONLY ALLOWED FOR WAS THE PURCHASE OF CAMERAS.
AND THAT'S WHAT THAT GRANT WAS USED.
THAT'S WHY IT WAS SO MUCH UP FRONT AND THEN HAS DWINDLED AWAY.
SO I APPRECIATE THE HELP ON THAT HUTCH, BUT THAT I GUESS I DIDN'T EXPLAIN THAT WELL.
THANK YOU, JUSTICE GREEN. JUSTICE CONEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
HOW LONG IS THE DATA FROM THE CAMERA? HOW LONG IT'S KEPT IN STORAGE? A VERY LONG TIME. WE HAVE UNLIMITED STORAGE.
EVERYTHING ACTUALLY GETS TAGGED WITH A PARTICULAR THING.
SO YOU HAVE A STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS ON CERTAIN CRIMES.
SO IF IT'S INVOLVED IN A PARTICULAR CRIME, THEN IT STAYS FOR THAT YEAR.
THAT LONG, FOREVER IS SOME ASPECTS OF IT.
IF IT'S A HOMICIDE AND VARIOUS OTHER CRIMES THAT YOU'RE DOING, SO IT IS.
IT'S KEPT FOR A VERY, VERY, VERY LONG TIME.
SO WITH US SPENDING THIS TYPE OF MONEY YEARLY, CAN WE NOT DEVELOP SOMETHING THAT WE WILL OWN OPPOSED TO? NO, THIS STUFF, [INAUDIBLE] THIS STUFF IS CUTTING EDGE OF WHAT THEY'RE ABLE TO DO.
VARIOUS PROGRAMS WHERE WE CAN WE ACTUALLY OWN THE DATA, WE HAVE THE DATA WHEN WE SEND IT OUT TO SOMEBODY THROUGH THEIR THROUGH THEIR PROGRAMS AND THEIR SOFTWARE.
WE YOUR PROSECUTING ATTORNEYS CAN RECEIVE IT.
YOUR DEFENSE ATTORNEYS CAN RECEIVE IT.
A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT IS PUT OUT IS NOT TO BE RELEASED FOR THE PUBLIC WE CAN REDACT.
THERE'S JUST A CACHET OF THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO WITH ALL OF THIS STUFF.
THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? JUSTICE STOWERS YOU'RE RECOGNIZED? YEAH, THANK YOU, MA'AM. JUST VERY BRIEFLY.
SO IS THERE ARE THERE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS AS FAR AS YOU KNOW HOW LONG THE DATA HAS TO BE STORED BEFORE IT CAN BE? EVEN STUFF THAT IS AN ACCIDENTAL WE KEEP FOR OVER A YEAR.
AS FAR AS, YES, RELATED TO CRIMES UNTIL THEY'RE ADJUDICATED AND THEN YOU HAVE TO KEEP THEM FOR A PERIOD OF TIME AFTER ADJUDICATION AS WELL.
IF IT'S AN UNSOLVED CRIME, YOU'VE GOT TO KEEP IT TILL THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS RUN OUT ON THAT PARTICULAR CRIME.
IN OTHER WORDS, SO IT'S SO LONG THAT IF YOU WERE TO APPREHEND SOMEBODY, IT EXCEEDS THE TIME. SO WE WOULD NOT ANTICIPATE THEN THAT THIS THIS SHOULD BE A ONE SHOT DEAL OF GETTING THIS IN THE BUDGET. AND WE SHOULDN'T ANTICIPATE THAT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL $400000 TO DETENTION AND ADDITIONAL.
NO. 400 THOUSAND DOLLARS TO ENFORCEMENT FOR STORAGE.
THIS IS KIND OF A ONE TIME SHOT IN THE ARM.
FOR NUTS AND BOLTS. YES, THIS IS AND WE WE OWN THIS DATA REGARDLESS.
IF WE BREAK TIES WITH THE COMPANY THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE RIGHTS TO THIS DATA FOR THE FOREVER, ACTUALLY.
AND I WANT TO SAY THAT MY RECOLLECTION WAS THE SAME AND THAT WAS THAT THE GRANTS WOULD PAY FOR THE CAMERAS THEMSELVES.
BUT I REMEMBER EVEN AT THE TIME, I WAS HAVING THE CONVERSATION THAT EVENTUALLY, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE GOING TO IMPLEMENT THIS, WHICH I SAID EARLIER, I THINK IS A ONE OF THE THE BEST THINGS THAT HAS HAPPENED IN A LONG TIME IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM ARE CAMERAS AND HOW WE USE THOSE.
BUT WE EVEN TALKED BACK THEN ABOUT HOW HE'S EVENTUALLY GOING TO HAVE TO PONY UP FOR THE STORAGE. SO I REMEMBER IT AS AS THE COMPTROLLER HAS EXPLAINED IT, I YIELD.
WE HAVE TO DO THE SAME THING WITH PAYROLL, THERE'S RECORDS WE HAVE DONE AND WE HAVE TO KEEP FOREVER. THERE'S NOT A TIME LIMIT ON IT THIS THING.
WELL, THAT'S DATA THAT'S LIVE FEED THAT WE'RE KEEPING PAPER AND SCANNING IT, BUT IT'S WITH THESE RECORDS. IT'S CRAZY.
THANK YOU, JUSTICE STOWERS, JUSTICE KEITH, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
BUT AND I GUESS AT THE END OF FIVE YEARS, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO RENEW.
CORRECT. THIS IS A CONTRACT THAT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE JUDGE, JUDGE SIGNED IT JUST LIKE YOU DID THIS ONE. SO EVEN THOUGH WE'VE GOT TWO PAYMENTS OF SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS AT THE END OF FIVE YEARS, WE WOULD HAVE TO RENEW THAT WITH EITHER THIS COMPANY OR ANOTHER COMPANY THAT COULD BE POTENTIALLY AT AN INCREASED RATE AS WELL.
CORRECT? WELL, INCREASE OR DECREASE.
YOU KNOW, MOST PEOPLE ASKED FOR A THREE PERCENT.
FOUR PERCENT. YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ABSORB IF WE HAVE TO.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BIG SCHEME OF THINGS, WE'RE ASKING FOR A CHUNK JUST TO REALLY.
HELP US GET OVER GETTING THIS SYSTEM AND MAINTAINING THE SYSTEM AND HAVING THIS SYSTEM.
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OK, I YIELD AGAIN.JUSTICE KEITH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? JUSTICE ELLIOTT YOU'RE RECOGNIZED, I KNOW THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF A LOT OF PEOPLE REALLY RECKON, NOR HAS IT BEEN THE STORAGE IS ONE OF THE THERE'S A LOT MORE THAN PEOPLE EVER REALIZED IT WOULD BE.
I BELIEVE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND, UNDERSTAND THAT AT RIGHT FIRST, THANK YOU.
JUST POINT OF NOTE THAT A LOT OF THESE LOCAL AGENCIES AROUND HERE STARTED OUT WITH THEIR BODY CAMERAS AND RAN INTO PROBLEMS WITH THEIR STORAGE.
SO YOU'RE SEEING A LOT OF PEOPLE GO TO A COMPANY VERY SIMILAR TO THE ONE THAT WE USE AS WELL. JUSTICE, THANK YOU, JUSTICE ELLIOTT.
JUSTICE KEITH, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
AND I PROMISE YOU, THIS IS MY LAST BECAUSE I WANT TO.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH YOU. I JUST WANT TO OFFER A DISCLAIMER.
I THINK BODY CAMS ARE NECESSARY.
I THINK NATIONALLY, BODY CAMS HAVE PROVIDED INFORMATION THAT HAVE LED TO CONVICTIONS OR WHATEVER. MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THE COUNTY AND THE COUNTY'S ABILITY TO CONTINUALLY ADD.
I THINK I TOLD ONE OF OUR MEETINGS WHEN I CAME ON THE QUORUM COURT, WE STARTED OFF WITH RIGHT AT A $50 MILLION BUDGET.
RIGHT NOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT AN $83 MILLION BUDGET AND THIS IS MY 13 YEAR ON THE QUORUM COURT. SO MY CONCERN IS WHEN WE COMPARED TO THE CITY OF LITTLE ROCK, WE COMPARE TO THESE OTHER CITIES. THEY HAVE MULTIPLE REVENUE STREAMS AND THE COUNTY IS LIMITED TO THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE STREAMS THAT WE HAVE.
SO TO ME, WE CAN'T JUST GO OUT AND AND WE SHOULDN'T.
NOW WE DO WHAT WHAT 15 OF US OR 14 OF US TO DO IS OUR BUSINESS OR YOUR BUSINESS.
BUT I LOOK AT STUFF LIKE THAT AND SAYING ONCE IT'S ADDED TO A BUDGET, IT'S NOT TAKEN BACK. I'M SORRY BECAUSE ONCE YOU PUT IT THERE, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP IT THERE, WHETHER IT'S FOR SOFTWARE OR FOR US, FOR WHATEVER.
SO I FULLY BELIEVE THAT WE NEED BODY CAMERAS.
SO THE ISSUE IS NOT THE BODY CAMERAS.
THE ISSUE IS THE COST AND THE CONTINUING RISE IN COSTS FOR MAINTAINING THOSE BODY CAMERAS. WITH THAT, I PROMISE YOU, I YIELD.
I MEAN, YEAH, IT IS SOMETHING TO TO CONSIDER AND SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, ONCE IT GETS INTO THE BUDGET AND MIND YOU, I MEAN, WE NEED THE BODY CAM, SO IT IS NOW GOING TO BE A PART OF THE BUDGET, YOU KNOW? WELL, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS, OTHER COMMENTS I'D LIKE TO MAKE, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE THEM AT THIS TIME. BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S IT IS WHAT IT IS, I GUESS.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? WE NEED YOUR COMMENTS.
NO, I MEAN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT THAT WE HAVE THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
YOU KNOW, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO REFER ANYTHING TO COMPARE ANYTHING TO LITTLE ROCK BECAUSE WE ARE PULASKI COUNTY.
WE ARE NOT THE CITY OF LITTLE ROCK.
WE ARE A COUNTY. WE'RE NOT A CITY.
AND SO BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE NEED THE CAMERAS.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS, POSSIBLY DOWN THE ROAD.
HOPEFULLY WE WILL. THINGS WILL GET BETTER FOR US.
AND AS WE INCREASE WITH EXPENDITURES, MAYBE OUR REVENUES WILL INCREASE.
SO BUT ANYWAY, IF THERE WOULD BE NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, AMY WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL? MR. ELLIOTT.
ABSTAIN. MR. KEITH. YES. MS. CONEY. ABSTAIN.
YOU HAVE FIVE AYES AND TWO ABSTENTIONS.
TABLE THAT. THIS WILL GO TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT FOR FINAL APPROVAL.
DETENTION DEPARTMENT NUMBER 418.
ALL RIGHT. MAJOR HAYNES IS THAT YOU ALSO? I'M DOING THEM ALL. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO GENERAL SUPPLIERS WE'RE ASKING FOR AN INCREASE FROM 75000 TO 150000.
THIS LINE ITEM HAS SEEN A LARGE INCREASE DUE TO COVID 19, MAINTAINING A PROPER SUPPLY LEVEL TO ADDRESS THE 1100 PLUS INMATES IN THE JAIL PERSONNEL AND AVOIDING CROSS-CONTAMINATION HAS FORCED AN INCREASE FOR US IN THIS REQUEST.
WE'RE ALSO ASKING FOR A $2000 INCREASE IN POSTAGE DUE TO PRICES GOING UP IN OUR MEALS.
COVID HAS AFFECTED OUR MEALS AND LODGING COVID HAS AFFECTED US DRASTICALLY IN REGARDS TO
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THE FORCE. OUR TRANSPORT COMPANIES TO TRANSPORT AN INDIVIDUAL NOW OUT OF STATE BACK TO US AS THE COST HAS DOUBLED AND SOMETIMES TRIPLED.THEREFORE, WHEN POSSIBLE, WE'RE ACTUALLY SENDING OUR DEPUTIES OUT TO GO GET PEOPLE ALL ACROSS, ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
THEREFORE, WE OBVIOUSLY NEED TO.
WE HAD $1000 IN THAT LINE ITEM.
WE NEED TO RAISE THAT UP SO WE CAN PAY FOR HOTEL ROOMS AND AND MEALS AS WELL.
AND IN THE COMPUTER SOFTWARE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE, WE'RE ASKING TO GO UP TO 400000 ON THAT. THAT'S GOING TO BE 360000 OF THAT IS FOR THE CAMERAS.
AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE FOR THE JAIL BILLING SOFTWARE WILL MAKE UP THE OTHER.
AND THAT IS IT. THAT IS IT, AND THAT IS A LOT.
[INAUDIBLE] JUSTICE STOWERS, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YES, JUSTICE CONEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
YES WHEN WHATEVER. YES, MA'AM. ARE WE REIMBURSED IN ANY TYPE OF WAY? IT DEPENDS.
IT'S IT'S THE COUNTY'S RESPONSIBILITY.
IF THE IF IT'S OUT OF CIRCUIT COURT, WHICH ALL OF THEM ARE BASICALLY OUT OF CIRCUIT COURT, IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO GO PICK THEM UP AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS TO TAKE ON THAT EXPENSE.
IT JUST SHOULD BE NOTED THAT IT REALLY WAS WAS WITH THE COVID COMING.
THE TRANSPORT COMPANIES USED TO TRANSPORT A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE.
NOW THEY DO ONE PERSON AND JUST DEPENDING ON WHAT THE HEALTH RISKS ARE WITH THAT PERSON OR THE VIOLENT TENDENCIES OF THEM, IT'S CAUSED SOME ISSUES.
SO IT'S REQUIRED US TO GO DO THESE PICKUPS.
I YIELD. THANK YOU, JUSTICE CONEY.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? JUSTICE KEITH, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
JUST A COUPLE. JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS AND A LINE ITEM 3006.
YOU GOT MEDICAL AND DENTAL, AND I SEE YOU DIDN'T PUT ANYTHING IN THERE, BUT WE'VE GOT ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS IN EXPENSES FOR 2020.
IS THAT ONE OF THOSE? HOW DID WE HOW DID WE ARRIVE AT THAT? BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING.
WE'VE SPENT ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS IN MEDICAL AND DENTAL, AND WE'RE NOT EVEN REQUESTING ANYTHING FOR 2020 FOR THE 2022 BUDGET.
HOW DID WE DO THAT? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ON, ISN'T IT? YES.
YEAH, WE'RE ON DETENTION. YEAH, 3006.
OUR OUR MEDICAL CONTRACT, OUR MEDICAL BUDGET BUDGET PAYS FOR ONLY SO MUCH IN REGARDS TO DOCTOR VISITS AND SO FORTH.
WE ALSO HAVE AN OVERAGE ON WE PAY FOR PRESCRIPTIONS WHEN THEY'RE OVER.
WE HAVE PAID IN THE PAST AND CONTINUE TO PAY FOR MEDICAL STUFF OUT OF 418.
WHEN WE KNOW THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK CURRENTLY AT OUR 450 BUDGET THAT WE HAVE, IT IS ON LINE TO RUN OUT OF MONEY, PROBABLY AROUND DECEMBER.
SO COVID HAS BEEN A BIG PART OF THAT.
YOU'VE GOT ADDITIONAL WHEN WE WHEN WE SEND SOMEONE TO THE HOSPITAL, WE END UP PICKING UP THE BILL FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, BILLS COME IN NOT ONLY AS MEDICAL BILLS DO WE HAVE TO GET THEM WHAT WE CALL SCRUB THEY GO THROUGH.
I THINK IT'S THE WE GET THE MEDICARE RATE.
AND SO SOMETIMES BILLS ARE THREE, FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS OUT.
THEREFORE, IT'S JUST FOR AS FAR AS PLANNING THE WAY THEY ARE CYCLIC.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'D PUT ON OUR 450 AND WE'LL USE OUR OUR 418 FOR IT.
AND WE'RE ABLE TO USE HOW ARE WE ABLE TO USE BUDGET 418 FOR EXPENSES IN 450? I THOUGHT.
BECAUSE THERE'S A MEDICAL SECTION, IT'S ALL OUT OF THE JAIL.
BECAUSE IT'S DETENTION. SO OK, IT'S DETENTION MEDICAL, OK.
AND 450 REALLY ADDRESSES OUR CONTRACT RIGHT WITH WITH OUR TURNKEY.
AND SO IF WE HAVE ADDITIONAL THAT WE'VE NOT FORESEEN IN OUR CONTRACT, THEN WE END UP TAKING THOSE EXPENSES OUT OF 418, WHICH WE'VE DONE FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
AND I THINK SINCE WE'VE HAD TURNKEY.
RIGHT. AND SO I GO BACK TO SINCE WE'VE SPENDING IN THAT KIND OF MONEY IN THAT LINE ITEM,
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WOULD IT NOT BE PRUDENT TO ADD SOMETHING TO THAT LINE ITEM AS OPPOSED TO I MEAN, I KNOW I GUESS THAT'S PETER ROBBING PAUL BECAUSE YOU'RE YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE TAKING IT FROM SOMEWHERE, BUT I THINK THAT GIVES US A MISS.WELL, THE THING TOO, AND I WOULD CONCUR WITH YOU THINK TOO IS YOU JUST DON'T KNOW ABOUT MEDICAL. RIGHT.
WE DON'T KNOW IF WHAT HEALTHY PEOPLE WE'RE GOING TO GET IN THERE AND NON HEALTHY PEOPLE WE GET AS WHEN WE GET TO 450, YOU'LL YOU'LL FIND OUT THAT JUST A FEW PEOPLE WILL COST US AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY IN PRESCRIPTION DRUGS FOR CERTAIN DISEASES.
SO THOSE THINGS ADD UP AND OUR CONTRACT IS JUST 450 IS A CONTRACT WITH TURNKEY.
THERE'S OTHER EXPENSES THAT WE HAVE TO PAY SOMETIMES, AND WE'LL WE'LL MAKE THOSE OUT OF 418. RIGHT.
BUT I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO CONVEY IS THAT IT WOULDN'T JUMP OUT SO MUCH IF, SAY, IF I HAD $100000 IN THERE AND I HAD SPENT $180000, AT LEAST SOMETHING THAT'S BUDGETED IN THERE BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE TAKING THIS MONEY FROM SOMEWHERE, WHICH TO ME, IT DOESN'T GIVE US A CLEAR.
IT'S BEEN LITTLE MORE OF A DIFFICULT YEAR LAST YEAR AND A HALF.
WE PUT IT OUT OF 4, GO TAKE IT OVER TO 450, BUT.
SO TELL ME THIS, I THINK YOU MENTIONED SEVERAL LINE ITEMS HAD INCREASED BECAUSE OF COVID, SO THE AMERICAN RESCUE, DID IT NOT PROVIDE THE JAIL WITH ANY TYPE OF REIMBURSEMENT TO REIMBURSABLE EXPENSES OR ANYTHING? IF WE KNOW ABOUT THEM AND WE CAN IDENTIFY THEM WHEN THEY COME THROUGH ACCOUNTS PAYABLE.
OK? IF THEY THINK THEY HAVE SOMETHING THEY CAN COMMUNICATE TO ME, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, THEY HAVE TO BE SCRUBBED. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS, BUT IF YOU CALL ME PAUL OUT WELL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GENERAL SUPPLIES THAT INCREASED 75 $75000.
AND HE SAID THAT WAS DUE TO COVID AND IT WAS ANOTHER ONE DOWN HERE, HE SAID, DUE TO COVID SO.
SOME OF THOSE HE ALSO MENTIONED EVEN TRYING TO BUILD THE INNOVATORY BECAUSE OF COVID.
AND WHAT ABOUT EVEN WITH MEALS AND LODGING WHERE WE WENT FROM $1000 TO $10000 THAT'S DUE TO COVID? IS THAT ANY? IT'S STILL TAKES COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THEM AND US TO LET US KNOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
OK. WELL, WE DON'T ALWAYS GET THERE.
WELL, AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT I FEEL LIKE THAT THAT I THINK AND I'LL SAY THIS, I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF TIMES WE'RE GETTING HALF THE PICTURE AND THEN WHEN I START LOOKING AT BUDGETS AND I SEE SEE THINGS THAT THAT TO ME COULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN CARE OF ON THE FRONT END.
AND THAT WOULD PROBABLY PREVENT ME FROM AXING ON THE BACK END OR DURING THIS TIME.
AND I JUST WONDER. BUT WITH THAT, I'M THROUGH.
THANK YOU, JUSTICE KEITH, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON DEPARTMENT 418? JUSTICE STOWERS, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
MR. KEITH SAID I'LL BE VERY BRIEF.
I GUESS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE WE'VE HEARD THIS KIND OF AS A THEME FOR THE LAST THREE PLUS YEARS HOW MAJOR HAYNES AND I SEE YOU AS SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN WITH US WITH WITH THE COUNTY, WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THROUGH A LOT OF ADMINISTRATIONS.
WHAT IS THIS? YOUR FOURTH SHERIFF'S ADMINISTRATION? YES. YEAH.
SO YOU BRING A TO ME SOME CONTINUITY WITH WITH THIS BODY.
HOW CAN THERE? HOW CAN YOU HELP US TO HAVE A MORE EFFECTIVE LINE OF COMMUNICATION AND LINES OF COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE COMPTROLLER AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE? BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S NEGATIVE INTENT ON EITHER SIDE OR I DON'T THINK THERE'S A LACK OF POSITIVE INTENTION, BUT I DO, AND I AGREE WITH SOME OF MY OTHER COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID IT SEEMS THAT THE COMMUNICATION IS NOT WHAT IT COULD BE AND WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE IN IT.
AND WE'RE NOT HERE ON A DAILY BASIS.
WE'RE HERE A COUPLE OF HOURS, TWICE A MONTH ON A TYPICAL, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL ARE THE ONES THAT RUN THE DAY TO DAY BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY.
AND YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT BETWEEN YOUR TWO BUDGETS, YOU KNOW, RIGHT AT 45, $50 MILLION AND YOU HAVE TO WORK WITH WITH HUTCH TO TO MANAGE THAT.
HOW CAN WE, PARTICULARLY ON THE FINANCIALS, WORK BETTER TOGETHER AS A COUNTY?
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DO YOU SEE? AND I WOULD ASK THE SAME OF THE COMPTROLLER.I'M GOING TO ASK YOU BOTH THIS QUESTION BECAUSE I THINK IT WAS BROUGHT UP, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. I'M GOING TO ASK YOU, MAJOR, FROM A SHERIFF'S OFFICE PERSPECTIVE, I'M GOING TO ASK HUTCH FROM HIS FROM HIS SEAT AS A COMPTROLLER, AND I APPRECIATE AN ANSWER FROM BOTH OF YOU WHAT YOU FEEL THE OTHER COULD DO AND WHAT YOU COULD DO YOURSELVES TO MORE EFFECTIVELY COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER.
SURE. WELL, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, I THINK COMMUNICATION'S TWO WAY STREET TAKES TWO TO COMMUNICATE. THAT'S BEEN AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER FOR 27 YEARS.
I'VE HAD TO COMMUNICATE WITH PEOPLE.
I DEAL WITH HUTCH'S CREW ON A DAILY BASIS, CALLING UP NOT ALWAYS DEAL WITH HUTCH EVERY TIME I'VE CALLED HIM. I THINK WE'VE HAD PRETTY GOOD RAPPORT.
YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THINGS AREN'T ALWAYS WHAT PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE.
PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT WAYS OF DOING BUSINESS, BUT I THINK FROM THE MOST PART US AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, WE'RE AT LEAST FROM MY STANDPOINT, WE'RE HAPPY TO TALK.
WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK THINGS OUT.
I THINK WE SAW A LITTLE BIT OF UPS AND DOWNS MAYBE LAST YEAR IN THE BUDGET.
SHERIFF MADE SOME CORRECTIONS ON OUR END, WHAT WE HAD WITH SOME FOLKS IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, AND I THINK IT'S PROBABLY DONE.
AT LEAST I HOPE YOU SAY IT'S DONE A 180 DEGREE TURN AROUND.
AND IN THE WAY THAT WE'RE DOING OUR BUDGET AND WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH EVERYTHING, I THINK IT'S. I THINK WE'RE RUNNING AROUND PRETTY GOOD NOW AS FAR AS THE RESCUE MONEY, MY UNDERSTANDING ON THE RESCUE MONEY WAS THAT THE COUNTY WAS CAPTURING THIS MONEY AS CAPTURING THESE ITEMS AS IT CAME THROUGH.
IF WE'RE SUPPOSED TO SEE REIMBURSEMENT AT OUR BUDGET LEVEL, I'VE YET TO SEE THAT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S HAPPENING OR IF THERE'S A MEANS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
SO I MEAN, I JUST SPENT $9000 ON SOME GLOVES BECAUSE WE GOT TO HAVE GLOVES IN THERE AND WE GO THROUGH 50 BOXES OF GLOVES A WEEK DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME HELP ON THAT.
AND THAT'S KIND OF THINGS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 150000.
AND WE TRY OUR BEST TO LIVE WITHIN OUR BUDGET.
I MEAN, WE COME HERE AND WE ASK YOU FOR THE MONEY AND WE'RE GOING TO DO WHAT WE CAN DO AND NOT HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU IN AUGUST, SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER AND ASK FOR ANY MORE MONEY. SO IF WE GOT TO CUT BACK ON ONE THING TO TRY TO MAKE IT THROUGH, I THINK IT'S JUST BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF THE MONEY.
BUT WE'RE ALWAYS OPEN FOR COMMUNICATION.
I'M DEFINITELY OPEN FOR COMMUNICATION AT ALL TIMES.
AND EVERYONE AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, AS FAR AS I KNOW, IS.
MAJOR HAYNES DO YOU FEEL THAT THERE'S ANYTHING THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE COULD DO MORE EFFECTIVELY TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE COMPTROLLER IN HIS OFFICE? I GUESS I'M. GO AHEAD.
RETURN MY EMAILS THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THAT WOULD BE AWESOME SO I QUIT CONTACT.
AS A WHOLE, CUZ I'VE GOT STACKS OF EMAILS THAT ARE NEVER RETURNED.
THERE'S NOTHING BACK ON IT, SO I'M NOT GOING TO KEEP CHASING, DOES THE MONEY GO DIRECTLY BACK INTO YOUR BUDGET? NO, BECAUSE THERE'S NO COMMUNICATION.
IF SOMEBODY SAYS, HEY, WE JUST GOT THIS IN AND WE NEED THIS BACK IN THE BUDGET, YOU KNOW WHAT WE DO, WE PUT TOGETHER AN ORDINANCE FUNDING CAME OUT OF IT.
IF IF YOU KNOW, IT'S COVID RELATED PUT ON THE ON THE VOUCHER, WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE DOES.
BUT SO DID I GET THAT EMAIL? I DON'T BELIEVE I DID.
I USUALLY TRY TO CC YOU. YEAH, BECAUSE WE DEFINITELY WILL.
THAT'D BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. I'D LOVE TO HELP.
AND AND JUST TO MAKE A POINT AS FAR AS WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH COMMUNICATION, I THINK AT LEAST THREE TIMES LAST YEAR, I BOUGHT LUNCH FOR THE FOLKS UP HERE THAT DO THE PURCHASING AND WORK OUT OF HUTCH'S OFFICE AND BROUGHT MY STAFF UP HERE TO MEET WITH THEM AND ALL AND HAVE A LUNCH TOGETHER. SO THE COMMUNICATIONS THERE.
OK? WHAT DEGREE WHAT ASPECTS THEN WE CAN DEBATE.
I DID WANT TO ALLOW, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT OF ROOM TO GIVE AN EXPLANATION, BUT IT IS VENTURING OFF OF THE MAIN TOPIC HERE.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON DEPARTMENT 418? JUSTICE KEITH YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
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WHERE WE HAD $10000 IN THERE.AND THIS YEAR, I GUESS THUS FAR THROUGH, I ASSUME THIS IS AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER.
DO WE DO WE KNOW? DO WE KNOW WHAT WE'VE SPENT THAT HUNDRED AND TWENTY EIGHT? WELL, DO WE KNOW WHAT WE SPENT THAT HUNDRED AND $18000 ON IN THAT IN THAT LINE ITEM? 128.
SURE IT'S COMPUTER SOFTWARE, COMPUTER NEEDS, VARIOUS THINGS.
I MEAN, IF YOU WANT A DETAILED REPORT, WE CAN DO A G&L ON THAT PARTICULAR LINE ITEM TO LET LET YOU KNOW, BUT[INAUDIBLE] YOU KNOW THE CAMERAS.
IN THE JAIL OR ALL PART OF KIND OF ON SOFTWARE, THE VARIOUS OTHER COMPUTER PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH, OUR REPORTING SYSTEM, OUR [INAUDIBLE] SYSTEM THAT WE USE OVER THERE, VARIOUS THINGS.
I MEAN, IT'S IF I'D KNOWN I'VE BEEN HAPPY TO BRING A G&L AND LET GO INTO DETAIL WITH YOU IF THAT'S WHAT YOU LIKE. WELL, MAYBE LET ME POINT IT OUT THIS WAY BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT SEVERAL OTHER ONES.
BUT SINCE FOUR THOUSAND FOUR IS RIGHT DOWN THERE WHERE WE HAD BUDGETED 27000 AND WE'VE SPENT $60000, I KNOW SOMEWHERE IN THIS BUDGET WE'VE TAKEN THAT MONEY AND I KNOW YOU'VE GOT THE ABILITY TO MOVE MONEY AROUND.
BUT THIS GOES BACK TO MY ORIGINAL POINT WHEN WHEN WE'RE NOT BUDGETING AND WE'RE JUST SPENDING MONEY FROM WHEREVER THEN, THE QUORUM COURT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE OVERSPENDING.
WELL, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE OVERSPENDING IN ONE AREA AND UNDERSPENDING IN ANOTHER AREA, BUT WE DON'T KNOW THE AREA YOU'RE UNDERSPENDING.
IT DOES ALL COME DOWN TO CODING.
I CAN BUY A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT YOU THINK IS ISSUED UNDER A SMALL EQUIPMENT.
FOR INSTANCE, I HAVE A CAMERA THAT YOU TAKE TO A CRIME SCENE.
YOU PUT IT UP AND IT DOES A 3D IMAGE OF EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE.
THE MAJORITY OF THAT BILL WAS SOFTWARE.
I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT AFTER I SEND IT DOWN FOR THE PO, THEY SEND IT BACK AND SAY, YOU NEED TO ITEMIZE IT IN THESE PARTICULAR WAYS.
SO A LOT OF WHAT WE DEAL WITH HAS SOFTWARE ATTACHED TO IT, AND THAT ENDS UP BRINGING UP THE SOFTWARE IN.
JUSTICE KEITH, JUSTICE GREEN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
WELL. BUDGET AT $10000 FOR SOFTWARE OF COMPUTER SOFTWARE AND YOU ONLY USE ONE HUNDRED TWENTY EIGHT THOUSAND.
WHY ARE? WHY ARE WE ASKING FOR 400000 THIS YEAR? BECAUSE YOU GOT THE CAMERAS.
PLEASE SPEAK INTO THE MIC SO WE CAN ALL HEAR YOU.
I'M SORRY. LAST YEAR YOU BUDGETED $10000 AND YOU SPENT 128 THOUSAND, AND THIS YEAR YOU'RE ASKING FOR 400000.
THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER? I'M SORRY, YOU STILL? I YIELD I'M SORRY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? AND I HAVE A COMMENT, I WILL SAY THIS.
NOW WE CAN KEEP GOING THROUGH, NOT COMMUNICATING, NOW SOME THINGS I KNOW YOU JUST WE JUST MAY NOT UNDERSTAND THAT IT SHOULD BE ONE LINE ITEM OR ARE CODED AS SUCH, BUT WE CAN KEEP GOING THROUGH THIS.
YOU ALREADY GOT A COUPLE OF ABSTENTIONS.
NEXT YEAR, IT MAY BE A LOT MORE BECAUSE I MEAN, THIS IS JUST CHILD'S PLAY.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE BUCK STOPS, BUT IT'S GOT.
IT'S GOT, IT'S GOT. WE'VE GOT TO DO BETTER.
WE HAVE GOT TO DO BETTER BY COMMUNICATING BECAUSE WE DON'T ENJOY SPENDING MONEY THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND.
AND WE'RE NOT HAPPY ABOUT SPENDING THE MONEY THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO SPEND ON THESE CAMERAS.
HOWEVER, I KNOW WE NEED THEM FOR PUBLIC RECORD AND SAFETY.
TRUST ME, I UNDERSTAND, BUT NOT THRILLED ABOUT IT, SO I'M DEFINITELY NOT THRILLED ABOUT HAVING TO SPEND OTHER MONEY THAT POSSIBLY COULD HAVE BEEN SPENT OR TAKEN CARE OF THROUGH OUR COVID RELIEF FUNDS OR SOMETHING TO THAT NATURE.
WANT TO BE SYMPATHETIC AND SUPPORT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF EXPENSES ON HERE AND IT JUST SEEMS TO ME LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF A LOT OF MISCOMMUNICATION, NOT COMMUNICATION.
YOU KNOW TO YOU, THE SHERIFF AND WHO ALL YOUR DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT ARE HERE.
AND NOW I YIELD AMY CALL THE ROLL.
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STOWERS. YES.THIS WILL. SIX AYES AND ONE NO.
THIS WILL GO TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT FOR FINAL APPROVAL.
WE ARE NOW DOWN TO OUR LAST ITEM.
DEPARTMENT 450 DETENTION MEDICAL.
SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS TO CREATE A LINE ITEM FOR MEDICINE AND DRUGS IN 450 THROUGH OUR CONTRACT WITH TURNKEY.
THEY COVER A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DRUGS UP TO A PARTICULAR POINT PASS THAT THEY WILL END UP CHARGING. WE HAVE TO PAY THE OVERAGE FOR IT.
WE ARE ON TRACK THIS YEAR TO BE ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY SEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS ON OVER.
IT'S A LITTLE LESS, BUT IT WAS AN OVERAGE THERE, TOO.
WITHIN THIS LINE ITEM, THERE'S NEVER BEEN A SPOT FOR MEDICINE AND DRUGS.
WE HAVE ABSORBED THAT IN OTHER AREAS BEING HOW IT'S FROM PART OF THE CONTRACT.
WE THOUGHT IT WOULD FALL WITHIN THIS CONTRACT, SO WE WOULD ASK.
AND THESE ARE PRIMARILY DRUGS FOR HIV THAT HAVE TAKEN US SO HIGH.
AND IT'S JUST A FEW PEOPLE THAT ARE IN OUR FACILITY AND THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO IN REGARDS TO PUTTING THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE.
IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE.
ARE THERE? JUSTICE STOWERS YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
SECOND. BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECOND.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? JUSTICE CONEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
I GOT A QUESTION BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S DEALING WITH EVERYTHING INMATES THAT WE'RE KEEPING.
RIGHT NOW. IT'S NOT PER INMATE, IT'S THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THE SOFTWARE TOGETHER FOR SO WE CAN THEY'VE GOT TO GET BILLING CORRECT BECAUSE THAT GOES OUT IN JANUARY.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE BILLED PER THANK YOU, JUSTICE CONEY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? AND WE GET A MOTION.
I ALREADY MADE A MOTION. I'M SO SORRY.
THERE'LL BE NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
AMY, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? MR. ELLIOTT.
I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS. MR. KEITH. YES. MS. CONEY. YES. MS. MASSEY. AYE.
YOU HAVE SIX AYES AND ONE ABSTENTION.
THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, FOR COMING, AND AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO ADJOURN AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANNOUNCEMENTS AND PUBLIC COMMENT.
[Announcements]
WE HAVE NO, I'M SORRY AM I RECOGNIZED? WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME.BUT YOU KNOW, MY JOB IS TO HELP YOU GUYS OUT AS YOUR COORDINATOR, AS A DIRECTOR OF QUORUM COURT SERVICES AND WE HAVE AN ARCHIVED VIDEO SYSTEM THAT RECORDS AND ARCHIVES EVERY COMMENT THAT'S MADE IN HERE, EVERYTHING THAT'S SAID IN THE WELL.
AND I HEAR IT TONIGHT, YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT HOW YOU CAN'T REMEMBER HOW WHAT WAS SAID OR I WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO TAKE TIME TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THOSE VIDEOS.
LOOK AT THE THINGS THAT ARE SAID AND IT'S GOING TO HELP YOU TREMENDOUSLY.
YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT'S HARD TO REMEMBER WHAT YOU HEARD TWO YEARS AGO, BUT YOU KNOW, TAKE THE TIME TO LOOK AT IT. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE IT.
WE HAVE THE ARCHIVES GOING BACK ALL THE WAY TO 2016.
SO. IT'S A TOOL THAT WE HAVE, IT'S A TOOL FOR YOU, IT'S A TOOL FOR THE PUBLIC.
SO, YOU KNOW, PLEASE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOU GUYS DON'T DO YOUR DILIGENCE, YOU GUYS WORK HARD, YOU HAVE TO COME UP HERE AND DO THIS AFTER HOURS.
AND WE ALL APPLAUD YOU FOR THAT.
BUT THERE IS A SYSTEM OUT THERE WHERE YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT AND GET SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED THAT I THINK WERE KIND OF BEING BATTED AROUND TONIGHT.
HEY, JUSTIN, HOW SOON ARE THEY ARCHIVED? HOW SOON DO THEY PUT OUT THERE? YOU CAN WATCH THIS MEETING PROBABLY TOMORROW MORNING AROUND BETWEEN 10 AND 12, AND THEN IT STAYS ON THERE. SO AND THAT GOES FOR I WISH THEY WOULD HAVE STUCK AROUND BECAUSE, YOU
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KNOW, IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO SOMETHING, SAY, I DON'T KNOW, DON'T MAKE A STATEMENT IN THE WELL THAT THAT MAY COME BACK AND HAUNT YOU.IF YOU SAY THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE INCREASES AND YOU HAVE INCREASES THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO I WOULD SUGGEST WATCHING THOSE VIDEOS FOR FOR ALL THE TIME.
AND I AM A NERD, AND I DO WATCH IT PRETTY RELIGIOUSLY.
AND JUSTIN, I DON'T MEAN TO BE DIFFICULT, BUT I'M AN ACCOUNTANT AND I CAN'T.
I JUST CAN'T SUPPORT THIS BUDGET.
I'M NOT. I'M NOT MAKING COMMENTS AS TO ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, AS FAR AS YOU KNOW THAT'S Y'ALLS DEAL. I'M JUST SAYING WHEN IF I'M NOT PROVIDING YOU THAT INFORMATION, THEN I FEEL LIKE I'M NOT DOING MY JOB BY DIRECTING YOU TO THE PLACES TO FIND THOSE QUESTIONS AHEAD OF TIME. AND IF I'M NOT DOING THAT, I APOLOGIZE, BUT I DO WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THOSE RESOURCES ARE THERE.
THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE HAVE THEM.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY, YOU KNOW, ISSUES TRYING TO FIND SOMETHING, WANTING TO FIND SOMETHING, I WILL BE HAPPY TO LOCATE IT FOR YOU DOWN TO THE MINUTE AND SECOND.
CAN YOU LOCATE THAT? WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? ABOUT THE CAMERAS? CAN YOU EXPLAIN THIS BUDGET? I PROBABLY CAN LOCATE THAT.
YES. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THIS BUDGET? BUT THAT'S IT. I MEAN, I'M JUST I CAN DIRECT YOU TO THE INFORMATION.
SO ARE WE GOING TO DECIDE TONIGHT ON OUR NEXT MEETING OR YOU JUST WANT TO? NO WE DO WE NEED TO HAVE LIKE AT LEAST ONE CLEANUP.
I THINK THAT THERE WAS MAYBE SOME PROPOSALS ON THE THAT THE JUDGE HAD PROVIDED ON SALARY INCREASES THAT YOU GUYS WILL HAVE TO POSSIBLY CONSIDER.
SO I THINK THE DATES WERE THE.
OH, GOSH, THE 11TH, THE 19TH, OH, DO I HAVE IT? NO, I DON'T HAVE IT. YOU HAVE IT.
NOVEMBER. SO REALISTICALLY, IN NOVEMBER, 11TH, 16TH AND 18TH WOULD BE YOUR OPEN DATES.
THE 16TH IS A TUESDAY IN THE 18TH AS A TUESDAY.
16TH WORK FOR EVERYBODY, MOSTLY SO WE CAN DO IT? ALL RIGHT. WE WILL SCHEDULE A MEETING.
PUT IT ON YOUR CALENDARS FOR TUESDAY, THE 16TH.
I GUESS MY GOAL AT THAT POINT WOULD TO HAVE ANY HAVE THE FINAL BUDGET BEFORE YOU GUYS TO VOTE ON AND IF WE NEED TO CLEAN UP ANY DEPARTMENTS.
THAT'S WHAT WE DO AT THAT TIME.
[Public Comment ]
WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT, JUSTICE GULLEY HAS A COMMENT.WHEN WHEN YOU GET THIS BUDGET, IT WILL BE A COMPREHENSIVE COUNTY BUDGET.
I MEAN, WHAT I'M TELLING YOU IS WHEN YOU GET THE THE BUDGET IN ORDINANCE FORM, IT IS IT'S A COMPREHENSIVE COUNTY BUDGET.
IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO GO BACK AND VOTE ON EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT INDIVIDUALLY.
OH OK. YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT VIDEO.
THAT'S FINE. AND AGAIN, IF THERE'S ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT YOU SEE IN A VIDEO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT, LET ME KNOW THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.
WE CAN HELP YOU IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A SNIPPET BECAUSE YOU SAID SOMETHING FUNNY AND QUIRKY. HEY, I GOT IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF THERE BE NONE. WE'RE DISMISSED, AND I'LL SEE YOU ALL NEXT TUESDAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.