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I WANT TO WELCOME EVERYONE TO THE MARCH QUORUM COURT MEETING FOR PULASKI COUNTY.

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

EVERYONE WILL TAKE THEIR SEATS, I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND WE'RE BACK IN OUR NORMAL SEATS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN TWO YEARS.

I THINK IT'S TWO YEARS EXACTLY.

AND SO I'LL BE I'LL BE OPERATING THE MICROPHONE TONIGHT.

SO YOU ALL HAVE TO GIVE A LITTLE PAUSE EACH TIME THERE'S A CHANGE TO BE MADE.

AND I WILL TRY MY BEST TO KEEP UP.

JUSTICE REED, I THINK THAT YOU ARE UP TONIGHT TO GIVE OUR INVOCATION AND THEN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY JUSTICE BLACKWOOD.

PLEASE STAND. AS IS OUR TRADITION.

PLEASE STAND. FATHER, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TONIGHT AND FOR THIS MEETING.

PRAY FOR YOUR WISDOM AND YOUR HELP AS WE MAKE IMPORTANT DECISIONS IN JESUS NAME, I PRAY.

AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

MADAM CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? SURE. MR. REID? HERE. MR. DENTON. MS. LEWISON? HERE. MS. BLACKWOOD? HERE. MS. MCMULLEN? HERE. MS. MASSEY? HERE. MS. CONEY? MR. KEITH? HERE. MS. GREENE? MS. GULLEY? PRESENT. MR. ROBINSON? MR. MCCOY? HERE. MR. STOWERS? PRESENT. MR. ELLIOTT? HERE. MS. MEDLOCK? HERE. 12 PRESENT, THREE ABSENT, I'M SORRY, 11 PRESENT, FOUR ABSENT.

THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK.

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

REMEMBER, IT'S IN YOUR PACKETS THIS MONTH.

YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED THE MINUTES FROM LAST MONTH.

I'M SURE YOU'VE HAD TIME TO REVIEW THEM FOR ANY CHANGES REQUIRED OR REQUESTED.

CAN I HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVED. SECOND.

MEMBERS, YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION, YOU'VE HEARD THE SECOND.

ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING? THAT BEING KNOWN, MADAM CLERK CALLED THE ROLL FOR THE ADOPTION OF MINUTES.

THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTE. EXCUSE ME.

CERTAINLY, MISS MEDLOCK? AYE. MR. ELLIOTT? YES.

MR. STOWERS? YES. MR. MCCOY? YES. MR. ROBINSON. MISS GULLEY? YES. YES. MISS GREEN? MR. KEITH? YES. MISS CONEY? MISS MASSEY? AYE. MISS MCMULLEN? AYE. MISS BLACKWOOD? AYE. MISS LEWISON? YES. MR. DENTON? MR. REED? YES.

11 AYES AND THEN FOUR ABSENT.

THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK AND THAT WORKS, THAT'S 15.

WE TOTAL THEM. I'M POKING HER.

SHE'S NOT. SHE'S NOT SMILING.

THAT'S ALL IN FUN, MADAM CLERK.

[6. COMMITTEE REPORT: Agenda Committee]

AND WHEN YOU'RE READY, WOULD YOU READ INTO THE RECORD FOR US, THE NOTES FROM THE AGENDA COMMITTEE. CERTAINLY.

MARCH 22ND, 2022 TO THE TO THE PRESIDING OFFICER IN THE PULASKI COUNTY QUORUM COURT WE YOUR COMMITTEE OF THE AGENDA TO WHOM WAS REFERRED ITEMS 22-I-14, 22-I-15, 22-I-16, 22-I-18, 22-I-19 [INAUDIBLE] REPORT.

WE HAVE HAD THE SAME UNDER CONSIDERATION AND HEREWITH RETURN THE SAME WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF A DO PASS.

RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED CURTIS A.

KEITH, CHAIR.

DO YOU WANT, THERE'S TWO COMMITTEE REPORTS.

MARCH 22ND, 2022 TO THE PRESIDING OFFICER OF THE PULASKI COUNTY QUORUM COURT.

OH, I'M SORRY. SHOULD JUST BE THE AGENDA COMMITTEE, I THINK.

YES. JUSTIN, DO WE? THE COMMITTEE OF THE AGENDA TO WHOM ITEMS WERE REFERRED TO 22-I-11 [INAUDIBLE].

WE HAVE HAD THE SAME UNDER CONSIDERATION AND HEREWITH RETURN THE SAME WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF DO PASS AS AMENDED.

ONE HAD 22-11 ON IT AND OTHERS HAD 14, 15, 16, 18 ON IT, SO.

THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK.

MEMBERS, THERE'S NO UNFINISHED BUSINESS.

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MOVES US ON TO NEW BUSINESS AND THE REQUEST OF THE SPONSOR, JUSTICE MCCOY, I BELIEVE, WE'RE GOING TO HOLD HOLD OVER THIS RESOLUTION 22I-18 UNTIL NEXT MONTH, ALONG WITH PRESENTING THAT PROCLAMATION TO THE TO THE FAMILY OF MR. CAPPS. SO THAT BRINGS US TO ORDINANCES.

[22-I-11A AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 21-OR-46 (2022 ANNUAL BUDGET, PULASKI COUNTY, ARKANSAS) TO APPROPRIATE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN FUNDS FOR THE PURPOSE OF PURCHASING AND MAINTAINING RITE TRACK DATA SOFTWARE SYSTEM FOR THE JUVENILE COURTS.]

MADAM CLERK, WHATEVER YOU'RE READY, PLEASE READ FOR US.

21-I-11 AS AMENDED.

OKAY. AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 21-OR-46 2022 ANNUAL BUDGET PULASKI COUNTY ARKANSAS TO APPROPRIATE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN FUNDS FOR THE PURPOSE OF PURCHASING AND MAINTAINING RIGHT TRACK DATA SOFTWARE SYSTEM FOR THE JUVENILE COURTS.

JUSTICE MASSEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THE MOTION.

YES. MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION.

MEMBERS, YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION, YOU'VE HEARD THE SECOND.

THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON ORDINANCE 22-I-11 AS AMENDED.

THERE BEING NONE. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL FOR THE ADOPTION OF 22-I-11 AS AMENDED. MR. REED? YES. MR. DENTON? MS. LEWISON? YES. MS. BLACKWOOD? AYE. MS. MCMULLEN? AYE. MS. MASSEY? AYE. MS. CONEY.

MR. KEITH? YES.

MS. GULLEY? AYE. SCREEN IS OUT.

MR. ROBINSON? NOT HERE. MR. MCCOY? YES. MR. STOWERS? YES.

MR. ELLIOTT? YES. MISS MEDLOCK? AYE. ALL RIGHT. 11 AYES, FOUR ABSENT.

THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK. JUSTICE MASSEY, YOU PASSED YOUR ORDINANCE.

[22-I-14 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 21-OR-46 (2022 ANNUAL BUDGET, PULASKI COUNTY, ARKANSAS) TO APPROPRIATE FUNDS FROM THE COLLECTOR’S SALARY & EXPENSE FUND INTO THE COLLECTOR’S DEPARTMENT FOR THE PAYMENT OF PROPERTY TAX REFUNDS FOR NED LITTLE ROCK, LLC AND PARK PLAZA MALL.]

AND NOW, MADAM CLERK, WILL YOU READ FOR US, PLEASE, ORDINANCE 22-I-14 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 21-OR-46 THE 2022 ANNUAL BUDGET PULASKI COUNTY, ARKANSAS TO APPROPRIATE FUNDS FROM THE COLLECTOR'S SALARY AND EXPENSE FUND INTO THE COLLECTOR'S DEPARTMENT FOR THE PAYMENT OF PROPERTY TAX REFUNDS FOR MAD LITTLE ROCK, LLC AND PARK PLAZA MALL. JUSTICE MCCOY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THE MOTION.

YES. MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION.

SORRY.

MEMBERS, YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION. YOU'VE HEARD THE SECOND.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON 22-I-14? TO TOUCH ON A POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE.

I KNOW MY MIC'S WORKING NOW, BUT I THINK AS WE'VE BEEN VOTING, SOME OF THE MICS HAVEN'T BEEN ON. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S.

AND THAT'S THAT'LL BE THAT'S A MATTER FOR ME TO TURN THEM ALL ON.

I'LL CATCH I'LL CATCH UP.

I'M A LITTLE BEHIND BUT I'LL CATCH UP, I PROMISE.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I YIELD.

YEAH. AH.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON 22-I-14.

THERE BEING NONE, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL FOR THE ADOPTION OF 22-I-14.

CERTAINLY. MS. MEDLOCK? MR. ELLIOTT? MR. STOWERS? YES. MR. MCCOY? YES. MR. ROBINSON? MISS GULLEY? YES. MISS GREEN? MR. KEITH? YES.

MISS MASSEY? AYE. MISS MCMULLEN? AYE. MISS BLACKWOOD? AYE. MISS LEWISON? YES. MR. REED? YES. 11 AYES FOUR ABSENT.

JUSTICE MCCOY, YOU'VE PASSED YOUR ORDINANCE.

22-I-14. MADAM CLERK, THESE RECORDS REFLECT THAT JUSTICE GREEN IS WITH US NOW AS WELL.

THANK YOU. LET'S MOVE ON.

[22-I-15 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 21-OR-46 (2022 ANNUAL BUDGET, PULASKI COUNTY, ARKANSAS) TO RECOGNIZE AND APPROPRIATE REIMBURSEMENT FUNDS FOR THE CRISIS STABILIZATION UNIT.]

MADAM CLERK, WILL YOU NOW READ FOR US ORDINANCE 22-I-15.

CERTAINLY AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 21-OR-46 2022 ANNUAL BUDGET PULASKI COUNTY, ARKANSAS, TO RECOGNIZE AND APPROPRIATE REIMBURSEMENT FUNDS FOR THE CRISIS STABILIZATION UNIT. JUSTICE ELLIOTT, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THE MOTION.

MOVE FOR ADOPTION. MEMBERS, YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION THE SECOND.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON 22-I-15? THERE BEING NONE, MADAM CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL FOR THE ADOPTION OF 22-I-15.

CERTAINLY. MR. REED? YES. MISS LEWISON? YES.

MRS. BLACKWOOD.

AYE. MISS MCMULLEN? AYE. MISS MASSEY? AYE. MISS CONEY? YES. MR. KEITH? YES.

MISS GREEN? HERE. I'M SO SORRY.

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THAT WAS A YES? YES, MA'AM.

THANK YOU, MISS GULLEY? YES, MR. ROBINSON? MR. MCCOY? YES. MR. STOWERS? AYE.

MR. ELLIOTT? YES.

MISS MEDLOCK? 12 AYES, THREE ABSENT.

THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK.

JUST.

AND MADAM CLERK, WE LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT JUSTICE CONEY IS NOW PRESENT.

CERTAINLY. THANK YOU, SIR.

HELLO, MS. CONEY.

[22-I-16 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 21-OR-46 (2022 ANNUAL BUDGET, PULASKI COUNTY, ARKANSAS) TO RECOGNIZE AND APPROPRIATE GRANT FUNDS FOR THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT FOR THE TENANT-BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AND TO FUND A HOUSING ADMINISTRATOR POSITION.]

MADAM CLERK, WHEN YOU'RE READY, WILL YOU READ FOR US NOW? ORDINANCE 22-I-16.

CERTAINLY IN AUDITS AMENDING ORDINANCE 21-OR-46 2022 ANNUAL BUDGET PULASKI COUNTY ARKANSAS TO RECOGNIZE AND APPROPRIATE GRANT FUNDS FOR THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT FOR THE TENANT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, AND TO FUND A HOUSING ADMINISTRATOR POSITION. JUSTICE LEWISON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THE MOTION.

MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION.

I SECOND THAT.

MEMBERS, YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION, YOU'VE HEARD THE SECOND.

ARE THERE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON 22-I-16.

THERE BEING NONE, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL FOR THE ADOPTION OF 22-I-16.

CERTAINLY. MISS MEDLOCK? AYE. MR. ELLIOTT? YES.

MR. STOWERS? YES.

MR. MCCOY? YES. MR. ROBINSON. MISS GULLEY? YES. MISS GREEN? AYE. MR. KEITH? YES.

MISS CONEY? YES. MISS MASSEY? AYE. MISS MCMULLEN? AYE. MISS BLACKWOOD? AYE. MISS LEWISON? YES. MR. DENTON.

MR. REED? YES.

SO THAT WOULD BE 13 AYES AND TWO ABSENT.

THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK.

JUSTICE LEWISON, YOU PASSED THE ORDINANCE 22-I-16.

[22-I-19 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 21-OR-46 (2022 ANNUAL BUDGET, PULASKI COUNTY, ARKANSAS) TO APPROPRIATE GRANT FUNDS FOR THE SHERIFF’S OPIOID ABUSE SITE-BASED PROGRAM.]

AND WHEN YOU'RE READY, MADAM CLERK, WILL YOU READ FOR 22-I-19? CERTAINLY. AND AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 21-OR-46, 2022 ANNUAL BUDGET PULASKI COUNTY ARKANSAS TO APPROPRIATE GRANT FUNDS FOR THE SHERIFF'S OPIOID ABUSE SITE BASED PROGRAM. JUSTICE BLACKWOOD, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THE MOTION.

MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION.

MEMBERS, YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION, YOU'VE HEARD THE SECOND.

COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? SO HANG ON.

MS. GREEN, YOU ARE NOW RECOGNIZED.

MISS GREEN? I'M SORRY I HAD TO FIND YOUR NAME.

I JUST WAS SCRAMBLING THERE.

I'M SORRY. YOU KNOW, I NEVER COMMENT.

I VERY SELDOM COMMENT ON ANYTHING.

NOW, THE STAFFS WASTE THEIR TIME PUTTING TOGETHER THESE ORDINANCES FOR US.

THE WASTE. THE WASTE OF THE COUNTY'S MONEY.

PUTTING, PUTTING IT TOGETHER, PUTTING POSTAGE ON IT AND EVERYTHING.

THEY SEND THAT TO US FOR A REASON BECAUSE THEY WANT US TO READ THESE.

THEY WANT US TO READ THEM.

SO WHEN WE GET IN COURT, WE DON'T HAVE TO HOLD UP EVERYBODY ALL NIGHT COMMENTING ON EVERYTHING AND MAKING SUGGESTIONS ON SOMEBODY'S ORDINANCE THAT THEY'VE ALREADY WRITTEN.

I NEVER, EVER HARDLY COMMENT BECAUSE I DO MY HOMEWORK WHEN THEY SEND THIS MATERIAL OUT TO ME. I READ IT SO I KNOW HOW I'M GOING TO VOTE WHEN I GET IN HERE.

I DON'T HAVE TO HOLD YOU ALL UP ASKING QUESTIONS, BUT WHEN I DO ASK A QUESTION, IT'S NOT TO GET ATTENTION TOWARDS MYSELF OR TO INTIMIDATE THE PEOPLE WHO WROTE IT.

WHEN I ASK A QUESTION, IT'S BECAUSE I WANT, I ALREADY KNOW WHAT THE ORDINANCE ABOUT, BUT I WANT MY COLLEAGUES ON THIS COURT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY READ, WHAT THEY WHAT THEY SAW, IF THEY HADN'T READ IT ALL.

AND THAT'S THE ONLY REASON THAT I MAKE A COMMENT ON ANYTHING.

NOW, WHEN I ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS 22-I-19 LAST WEEK, I HAD A REASON FOR ASKING IT BECAUSE WHEN WE APPROVED THIS GRANT, THAT MEANS THAT WE APPROVED IT FOR A SPECIFIC THING.

AND WHEN THEY BRING IT BACK IN HERE AND SAY, WELL, WE DIDN'T USE IT ALL, WE'RE GOING TO USE IT FOR SOMETHING ELSE WITHOUT TELLING US WHAT ELSE THEY'RE GOING TO USE IT FOR.

IF IT'S NOT GOING TOWARD THAT PARTICULAR THING, WE'RE GOING TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE, AND I

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DON'T WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT.

NOW, WHEN THEY WERE IN HERE, I ASKED THEM, WHAT ARE YOU ALL USING THE MONEY FOR? WHERE DID THE MONEY THAT YOU ALL HAVE ALREADY USED? WHERE DID IT GO? WELL, WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU.

I HADN'T GOTTEN IT. I HADN'T GOTTEN IT.

YES. SO I'M SORRY, BUT I'M GOING TO HAVE TO VOTE AGAINST IT.

I'M GIVING YOU MY REASONS.

I KNOW WHAT I'M VOTING FOR WHEN I VOTE.

AND THAT'S MY RIGHT TO BE AGAINST SOMETHING.

I NEVER, EVER GO AGAINST ANYBODY'S ORDINANCES WHEN THEY BRING THEM IN HERE, BECAUSE I'VE DONE MY HOMEWORK AND I KNOW WHAT I'M VOTING ON.

YOU KNOW, ALL OF US MAY NOT KNOW WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON.

WE JUST VOTE BECAUSE EVERYBODY ELSE IS VOTING.

OKAY. THANK YOU, JUDGE.

THANK YOU, JUSTICE GREEN.

THANK YOU, JUSTICE GREEN.

MR. KEITH, I THINK YOU WERE NEXT.

WE'VE GOT A FLASHING CHRISTMAS TREE UP HERE NOW.

WELL, I WAS JUST I THINK IT WAS MAJOR HOUSTON, WE HAD ASKED HIM TO FOLLOW UP, ME PARTICULARLY, HE WAS GOING TO YOU WERE GOING TO FOLLOW UP WITH SOME.

AND. OH, OKAY, I'M ON NOW.

MAJOR HOUSTON, I THINK WE ASKED YOU I ASKED YOU SPECIFICALLY YOU TOLD ME THAT PART OF THIS GRANT WAS GOING TO BE USED FOR TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.

AND I ASKED YOU TO JUST LET ME KNOW WHAT WHAT ACTUALLY FACILITIES THAT YOU WERE USING.

WERE YOU ABLE TO GET THAT INFORMATION? YES, I PULLED UP THE GNL OF WHAT HAS BEEN USED IN THE PAST.

A PLACE CALLED MARY'S HOUSE WAS USED IN THE PAST.

AND THAT'S FOR MEN AND WOMEN.

I'M NOT SURE. I JUST LOOKED AT THE GNL.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT'S WHAT THE GNL SAID, SIR.

I'VE NEVER HEARD OF. IS MARY'S HOUSE, LOCAL? LITTLE ROCK? YES, I BELIEVE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR.

NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. I YIELD, JUDGE.

THANK YOU, MR. KEITH.

JUSTICE GULLEY, I BELIEVE YOU WERE NEXT.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THE QUESTION.

THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MAJOR HAYNES.

IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE LAST MEETING THAT YOU WERE THE PERSON THAT SERVED THIS PROGRAM. THEY WERE GOING TO COME AND SAY.

I'M SORRY, MA'AM, I CAN'T HEAR.

THE PERSON THAT'S OVERSEAS THIS PROGRAM.

YES, MA'AM. I THOUGHT HE WAS COMING TO.

I'M SORRY IF I MISUNDERSTOOD, THEN.

I BELIEVE I THOUGHT MY COMMENT WAS THAT I COULD MAKE THEM AVAILABLE TO YOU.

AND I HADN'T HEARD FROM ANYBODY IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.

DID YOU BRING THE INFORMATION RELATED TO THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES? WHAT I BROUGHT WAS THE GL, I THINK, WHICH YOU ASKED FOR.

DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF IT? SURE DO.

I WOULD LIKE A COPY OF IT, PLEASE.

ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU, JUDGE.

HANG ON.

OKAY. THIS QUESTION MAY, HUTCH, MAY BE ABLE TO ASSIST WITH THIS QUESTION.

WHAT IS THIS GRANT ACTUALLY USED FOR? WILL IT BE FOR, AS YOU SAID, TRANSITIONAL HOUSING OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT? OR WILL IT BE FOR EDUCATION IN THE SCHOOLS? BECAUSE. NO, NO, IT'S ALL FOR IN THE FACILITY.

THIS IS AN OPIOID BASED GRANT.

THIS IS FOR TREATMENT WITHIN THE FACILITY, THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THINGS OUTSIDE THE FACILITY.

ALL OF WHAT I THINK SOMEBODY HAS ALLUDED TO, THEY THOUGHT ALL THIS WAS GOING TO GO TO OUTSIDE TREATMENT. THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

IT'S FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, FOR CLASSES TO BE TAUGHT WITHIN THE FACILITY.

THIS IS A GRANT THAT YOU GUYS APPROVED THREE YEARS AGO FOR A TOTAL OF $474,000 BECAUSE OF COVID AND A LATE START ON THE GRANT.

NOT ALL THE GRANT MONEY WAS WAS SPENT.

YOU WERE ENTITLED TO THE $474,000 FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

ADJUSTMENTS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN REGARDS TO THE BUDGETS THAT YOU CREATE FOR THE GRANT.

SO THIS IS SIMPLY TAKING THE MONEY THAT WAS NOT SPENT IN THE FIRST YEAR AND MOVING THAT MONEY INTO THE THIRD YEAR.

IF WE DON'T IF YOU DO NOT APPROVE THIS, YOU WILL NOT.

IT'S NO MONEY OUT OF THE COUNTY'S POCKET.

THIS IS $100,000 THAT GOES TO PEOPLE THAT ARE ADDICTS, NEEDED RECOVERY CLASSES, ITEMS. WE NEED TO DO THOSE CLASSES.

THAT'S WHAT YOU'LL BE DOING IS DENYING THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. JUSTICE MASSEY AND JUSTICE MCCOY, I BELIEVE YOU WERE NEXT RECOGNIZED FOR THE QUESTION. I YIELD.

JUSTICE STOWERS. I THINK YOU'RE NEXT THEN.

YES, IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT, AT LEAST A COUPLE OF MY COLLEAGUES, HAD QUESTIONS THAT WERE FOLLOW UPS FROM THE AGENDA MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO.

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AND IN ORDER FOR ME TO VOTE AFFIRMATIVE ON THIS TONIGHT, I NEED TO HEAR FROM THOSE COLLEAGUES.

CRYSTAL, CLEARLY WHETHER OR NOT THEIR CONCERNS OR THEIR QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED, IF THEIR CONCERNS, I WOULD THINK THAT AFTER THAT MEETING, THAT ON WEDNESDAY MORNING, THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS WOULD HAVE BEEN THAT SOMEONE FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN MAJOR, MAYBE IT WASN'T YOU, MAYBE IT WAS SOMEBODY ELSE, BUT WOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE HORN WITH THE MEMBERS OF THIS BODY THAT EXPRESSED THEIR CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS AT THE AGENDA MEETING.

AGAIN, NOT BLAMING YOU FOR THAT, SIR.

WELL, I'LL TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY THAT DOESN'T FALL ON ANYONE ELSE'S FEET BUT MINE.

I ANTICIPATED A PHONE CALL, PEOPLE REACHING OUT, HAVING QUESTIONS.

THINGS HAPPEN. I BROUGHT YOUR.

YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I LOVE AND RESPECT YOU, BUT MY FEELING IS WHEN IN AN AGENDA MEETING OR A QUORUM COURT MEETING OR ANY KIND OF COMMITTEE MEETING, WHEN THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT ARE ASKED, MY EXPECTATION WOULD BE THAT THE DEPARTMENT, THE LEADERSHIP, THE ELECTED OFFICIAL WOULD REACH OUT TO THE COLLEAGUES OF THIS BODY WHO ARE MAKING THE DECISIONS ON BEHALF OF THE CLOSE TO 400,000 TAXPAYERS OF THIS COUNTY.

SO, AGAIN, YOU KNOW THAT, I MEAN, NO DISRESPECT TOWARDS YOU.

I APPRECIATE. AND I'M TAKING AND I'LL TAKE 100% OF THAT.

BUT MY POINT BEING THAT I WILL NEED TO HEAR AFFIRMATIVELY TONIGHT FROM MY COLLEAGUES THAT FEEL THAT THEIR QUESTIONS WERE NOT ANSWERED, THAT THEIR QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED TONIGHT. BUT MY REQUEST IN THE FUTURE AND YOU KNOW, I MADE THIS SPEECH AND JUDGE, PLEASE GIVE ME A LITTLE LEVITY HERE.

BUT I MADE THIS SPEECH AT THE AGENDA MEETING A MONTH AGO.

AND THAT WAS IF YOU IF YOU'RE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL OR DEPARTMENT HAD WANTED SOMETHING TO BE PASSED BY THIS BODY, YOU BETTER BE HERE AT THE AGENDA MEETING TO REPRESENT IT.

YOU'LL REMEMBER ME MAKING THOSE STATEMENTS.

AND YOU WERE HERE, SIR. YOU WERE HERE.

MY FOLLOW UP TO THAT.

NOW, I'M NOT SURE WHAT ALL THE CHATTER GOING ON ON THE SIDEBAR IS, BUT MY FOLLOW UP TO THAT NOW IS, IS THAT IF YOU IF MEMBERS OF THIS BODY ASK QUESTIONS, I DON'T CARE IF IT'S THE TREASURER, THE ASSESSOR, THE CLERK, THE JUDGE, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

IF MEMBERS OF THIS BODY ASK QUESTIONS IN A MEETING, I BELIEVE IT'S INCUMBENT ON THE LEADERSHIP OF THAT ELECTED OFFICE TO REACH OUT TO THAT QUORUM COURT MEMBER, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND, AND TO SATISFY THE CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE.

SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES WHO SAID THAT I ASK QUESTIONS TWO WEEKS AGO AND NOT HEAR ANYTHING BACK.

AND IN SO, YOU KNOW, UNLESS I HEAR AFFIRMATIVE TONIGHT FROM THOSE COLLEAGUES THAT THOSE QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN SATISFIED BY YOU TONIGHT, THEN I CAN'T VOTE AFFIRMATIVELY, BUT I WOULD ASK IN THE FUTURE THAT THOSE QUESTIONS BE ANSWERED AND THAT THOSE PHONE CALLS COME FROM THE DEPARTMENTS, FROM THE ELECTED OFFICIALS BACK TO THIS BODY AND NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. I YIELD, JUDGE.

THANK YOU, MR. STOWERS.

MCCOY, HAVE YOU CHANGED YOUR MIND AGAIN? OKAY. MR. MCCOY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THE QUESTION.

NO. ASIDE FROM THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN REQUESTED, I THINK MAJOR HINES ADDED THAT.

WELL, LET ME I'LL ASK THE QUESTION.

I'M SAFELY ASSUMING THAT IT IS TOTALLY ALLOWED FOR YOU TO TAKE SOME OF THOSE LEFTOVER FUNDS THAT WEREN'T USED PREVIOUSLY.

SO TO TO HIS DEFENSE COLLEAGUES, I THINK IT IS HE'S COMING BEFORE US SAYING THIS IS TOTALLY ALLOWED TO MOVE THE GRANT FUNDS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN SPENT IN YEAR ONE TO YEAR THREE. AGAIN, ASIDE FROM ANY OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN REQUESTED AND LEFT UNCOVERED OR UNANSWERED. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS WE'RE MAKING MAYBE THIS POTENTIALLY A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED THAN WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE.

I YIELD. THANK YOU, MR. MCCOY. AND JUSTICE BLACKWOOD.

I THINK YOU'RE NEXT.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THE QUESTION.

OKAY. WHAT HAPPENS TO THESE FUNDS IF WE DON'T APPROVE THEM TONIGHT? THEY'LL GO BACK TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

IT'S MONEY THAT IS FREE TO YOU GUYS FOR TREATMENT FOR THESE PEOPLE IN OUR FACILITY TO HELP THEM OUT. AND WE DON'T GET IT THEN WE WON'T BE ABLE TO SPEND IT.

RIGHT. AND SO IF IT GOES BACK TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THEN SOME OTHER STATE WILL PROBABLY GET IT. IY GOES BACK INTO THEIR POCKET FOR THEIR BACK OUT.

FOR THEIR STATE TO HELP THEIR CONSTITUENTS.

AND WE WON'T GET IT IN OUR STATE.

SO THAT'S WHAT I ASSUME THAT WE'LL JUST LOSE THE FUNDS IN OUR STATE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. BLACKWOOD. POINT OF CLARIFICATION THERE.

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SO TODAY IS THE DEADLINE OR TOMORROW'S THE DEADLINE FOR THESE FUNDS? NO, NO. SO SEPTEMBER IS THE NUMBER.

SO SEPTEMBER 22 IS WHEN THOSE FUNDS WOULD RETURN TO THE DOJ, I GUESS.

CORRECT. OKAY.

THEY'RE REIMBURSABLE FUNDS, JUDGE.

SO. GOTCHA. I'M JUST TRYING.

THERE YOU GO. I'M JUST GOING TO FOLLOW ALONG HERE, AND IT'S NOT THAT EASY.

JUSTICE MCMULLEN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THE NEXT QUESTION.

THE ONLY THING IS THAT I NEEDED SOME CLARITY.

IT WAS SOMETHING I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND.

WHEN YOU DID ANSWER A QUESTION, YOU MENTIONED MARY'S HOUSE.

YES, MA'AM. AND WHAT WAS THAT IN REFERENCE TO? AND WHAT IS MARY'S HOUSE? FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, I'M NOT OVER THIS PROBLEM.

I DO THE THE FINANCE HERE, BUT BASICALLY, IT IS A TRANSITIONAL HOUSE FOR WHEN YOU COME OUT OF THE FACILITY, YOU'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THESE TREATMENTS, IT GIVES YOU A PLACE TO GO SO YOU DON'T GO STRAIGHT BACK TO WHERE YOU WERE.

IT GIVES YOU.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND SO ON.

WITH YOUR TREATMENT.

YES. YES. SURELY.

SO WHAT YOU'RE SIMPLY SAYING IS THAT SOME OF THE FUNDS WERE USED FOR THAT? YEAH, VERY, VERY LIMITED SO FAR.

BUT IT'S NOT ALL OF THEM THAT WERE USED.

IN REFERENCE TO MS., TO JUSTICE GREEN'S QUESTION, I THINK THAT WAS PRIMARILY ONE OF HER QUESTIONS AS TO WHAT IT HAD BEEN USED TO FORE, BEFORE.

RIGHT. IN REFERENCE TO THAT.

ALL RIGHT, THEN. AND I WANT TO THANK YOU.

I KNOW IT'S A TALL ORDER TO SAY THAT YOU MUST CALL OR THAT THE THAT THE ELECTED REPRESENTATIVE MUST CALL WHENEVER THERE ARE QUESTIONS.

BUT OF COURSE, I DO BELIEVE IN EQUITY.

SO THERE ARE MANY TIMES I'M NOT CALLED AND I'VE ASKED QUESTIONS, BUT THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT RESPONSE BACK.

AND I WOULD HAVE TO SAY, IN REFERENCE TO THAT TALL ORDER, WHAT GOES FOR ONE WOULD GO FOR ALL. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. JUSTICE MCMULLEN AND JUSTICE MASSEY.

I THINK IT'S YOUR TURN AGAIN.

OKAY, I'LL BE BRIEF.

I THINK SOME OF THE CONFUSION MAY BE THAT OR IT WAS FOR ME, EVEN THOUGH I DO INTEND TO VOTE YES FOR THIS TONIGHT.

BUT WAS THAT INITIALLY THIS GRANT WAS FOR LIKE PLEASE, PLEASE FIND OUT, PLEASE, THAT SOME OF THIS THIS GRANT WAS FOR LIKE WORKING WITH THE YOUTH FOR OF COMBATING DRUGS OR WHATEVER IN SCHOOL OR DRUG EDUCATION.

AND BECAUSE THIS WAS BROUGHT TO US INITIALLY, MAYBE TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO, IS THAT CORRECT? I'M GOING TO HONESTLY TELL YOU, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT WHAT WHOEVER SAID THREE YEARS AGO. SO NOW THAT YOU'RE TELLING US THAT.

BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE YOUTH, ONE WOULD PROBABLY THAT'S OUR JUNIOR DEPUTY PROGRAM THAT YOU GUYS DID LAST YEAR OR ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO.

THIS ONE IS A IT'S AN OPIOID BASED ONE FOR 474,000.

A LOT OF THE CONFUSION IN THIS.

THERE'S TWO WAYS THAT YOU CAN DO THE BUDGET.

YOU CAN DO THE ALL THE MONIES ONE TIME IN THE BEGINNING AND THAT BUDGET AND IT CONTINUES TO CARRY OVER WHAT THEY DID IN THIS ONE IS THEY DID IT IN THREE SEPARATE YEARS.

OKAY. HOLD ON JUST A SECOND.

MR. HUTCHENS, WOULD YOU HAPPEN TO REMEMBER ANYTHING ABOUT THAT BECAUSE? OKAY. THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU.

I YIELD. MR. MCCOY, I THINK IT'S BACK TO YOU AGAIN.

I FEEL LIKE WE'RE PLAYING TENNIS.

I CAN REMEMBER ALL MY QUESTIONS.

DOES THE MONEY HAVE TO BE SPENT BY THIS SEPTEMBER? YES. OKAY.

AND HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE THE TIME PERIOD? ASSUMING WE PASS THIS TONIGHT BETWEEN NOW AND SEPTEMBER.

DO YOU THINK THERE'S A FAIRLY GOOD CHANCE THAT IT WOULD ALL GET SPENT? I THINK THERE'S YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF NEEDS IN REGARDS TO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT DOING DRUG REHABILITATION AND CLASSES, THE MATERIALS THAT YOU'RE USING, THE BOOKS THAT YOU GET, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT YOU'RE DOING.

WILL WE SPEND EVERY PENNY OF THIS? I CAN'T TELL YOU 100%.

YES, THAT WE WOULD.

I CAN'T TELL YOU 100% NO THAT WE WOULDN'T.

BUT WHAT I CAN TELL YOU, IF IT GETS VOTED DOWN TONIGHT, WE WON'T EVEN GET A CHANCE TO GET SOME THINGS THAT WE NEED ON THE DIME OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AS OPPOSED TO WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO STILL ASK FOR THESE THINGS AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THEM OUT OF OUR REGULAR BUDGET.

SO THIS AFFORDS US THAT OPPORTUNITY TO USE FEDERAL MONEY TO BUY THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN THESE PREVENTION PROCESS AND REHABILITATION PROCESS IN THE JAIL.

AND THEN JUDGE WOULD MAJOR BE ABLE TO PASS OUT ANYTHING THAT SOME COLLEAGUES HAVE ASKED

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FOR? I'M SORRY.

WOULD THE MAJOR BE ABLE TO PASS OUT THINGS THAT SOME COLLEAGUES HAVE ASKED FOR THAT HE HAS IN HIS POSSESSION? TONIGHT? YES.

I DON'T IF SOMEBODY WANTS INFORMATION THAT THE MAJOR HAS.

I BROUGHT FOR MS. GULLEY THE GL.

OH, OKAY. YEAH. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE.

STANDS FOR GENERAL LEDGER. YES.

I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL I HAVE. I YIELD.

THANK YOU, MR. MCCOY.

I WANT TO SAY LET'S GATHER OURSELVES AND GET OUR QUESTIONS FIGURED OUT.

JUSTICE GULLEY, I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE YOU NEXT AGAIN.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW DO WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THIS TONIGHT? WE STILL HAVE SOME TIME TO MAKE A DECISION ON IT, RIGHT? WELL, THE LONGER WE WAIT TO DO IT, THE LESS OPPORTUNITY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND THAT MONEY. I MEAN, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS YOU GO THROUGH PURCHASE ORDERS AND THE SAME PURCHASING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE COUNTY APPLY ON ANY FEDERAL GRANT THAT WE DO.

I THOUGHT THE PERSON THAT'S OVER THIS PROGRAM WAS GOING TO COME BEFORE US.

I THINK I DID REQUEST THAT.

WELL, I COULD, WE CAN ARRANGE A MEETING IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME AND VIEW ALL OUR PAPERWORK.

AND I WOULD, I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE FOR HIM TO COME BEFORE THE BODY HERE.

THAT WAS THE REQUEST, HUH? YES, THAT WAS THE REQUEST.

I DO RECALL THAT.

IT WAS AFFIRMED HE WOULD BE.

I'VE GOT TO GET THE REPRESENTATIVE HERE, THAT'S FINE, BUT IT'S, I GUESS I DON'T, I JUST DIDN'T REMEMBER IT THAT WAY. YEAH.

I APOLOGIZE THAT I DON'T.

YES, SIR, BECAUSE HE CAN EXPLAIN ALL OF THIS TO US, BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT, BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR HIM TO COME AND EXPLAIN THIS.

I'M SURE THAT'S. YOU DID AFFIRM THAT HE WAS COMING.

YOU DID. WELL, IF I DID, THEN I APOLOGIZE THAT HE'S NOT HERE.

OKAY. THANK YOU, JUDGE.

CFO. I'M SORRY.

THANK YOU, CFO JUDGE HYDE, THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING ME.

OKAY. MS. BLACKWOOD, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

YES. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE THIS FOR 30 DAYS.

WE HAVE QUESTIONS JUST FOR A SECOND.

REMEMBER, THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

THERE'S A SECOND.

I THINK THIS IS NOT DEBATABLE, ISN'T IT? TABLE IT FOR 30 DAYS.

CORRECT.

HANG ON, FOLKS. IF THE MOTION THAT SHE HAS MADE WAS TO TABLE THE ITEM; CORRECT? AND IT RECEIVED A SECOND AND IT IS NON DEBATABLE AND IT WILL REQUIRE A VOTE TO BE REMOVED FROM THE TABLE. SO, MEMBERS, LET'S MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE VOTING FOR.

YOU'RE VOTING, THE SPONSOR OF THE ORDINANCE HAS MADE A MOTION.

IT'S BEEN SECONDED TO TABLE THIS ITEM AND THERE'S REALLY NO TABLING FOR 30 DAYS.

IT'LL TABLE UNTIL A MAJORITY OF THE BODY VOTES TO REMOVE FROM THE TABLE, WHICH CAN BE DONE IN NEXT MONTH'S MEETING.

AND, AND IT IS NON DEBATABLE.

SO I'M GOING TO CLEAR THE BOARD HERE AND MADAM CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL IN THE VOTE TO PLACE THIS ORDINANCE UPON THE TABLE? CERTAINLY, MR. REED? MS. LEWISON. YES.

MS. BLACKWOOD? YES. MS. MCMULLEN? NO. MS. MASSEY? AYE.

MS. CONEY, I THINK WE NEED TO VOTE FOR IT, BUT I DO [INAUDIBLE].

ABSTAIN.

YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR VOTE.

MR. KEITH? YES.

MS. GREEN? NO. MISS GULLEY? NO. MR. ROBINSON? MR. MCCOY? NO.

MR. STOWERS? ON THE VOTE TO TABLE FOR 30 DAYS.

YES. MR. ELLIOTT? YES.

MS. MEDLOCK? I'M GOING TO VOTE YES BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE FOR EVERYBODY TO GATHER ENOUGH INFORMATION TO PROPERLY PRESENT IT BEFORE EVERYBODY.

SO, YES.

I'LL WANT TO PICK UP.

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HELLO. SEVEN AYES, TWO ABSENT, FIVE NAYS AND ONE ABSTENTION.

TAKES EIGHT TO PASS.

SO THE AMENDMENT FAILS.

THOSE WHO,LET ME GET YOU ALL TURNED BACK OFF, AND THOSE WHO STILL HAD QUESTIONS LIKE BACK UP. MISS MCMULLEN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FIRST FOR THE QUESTION.

YES, THANK YOU.

ACTUALLY, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT ON BEHALF OF YOU AND THE SHERIFF, I DO RECALL THE I DO RECALL THE GRANT THAT WAS FOR THE OPIOID THAT WAS IN THE SCHOOLS.

AND THE REASON I DO RECALL THAT WAS BECAUSE SOME OF THE JUSTICES WERE A BIT PERTURBED THAT IT WAS FOR OPIOID.

AND THE REASON THEY WERE PERTURBED WAS BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER DRUG USES THAT CHILDREN USE BEYOND OR BESIDES OPIOID.

AND SO THE IMPRESSION WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN PEOPLE HAD BEEN LEFT OUT AND THEY THE WHOLE DRUG ISSUE HAD BECOME MORE CRITICAL BECAUSE IT INCLUDED OTHER PEOPLE OF A DIFFERENT PERSUASION. SO I SPECIFICALLY REMEMBER THAT THAT'S WHAT THAT GRANT WAS FOR.

TO YOUR CREDIT, YOU'RE NOT HELPING YOU.

AND HE USED IT.

ARE YOU FINISHED, MR. MCMULLEN? YES. YES.

THANK YOU. JUSTICE STOWERS, I THINK YOU WERE NEXT.

SIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE POSTPONE THIS FOR 30 DAYS.

TO POSTPONE IS A PROPER MOTION AS OPPOSED TO TABLING? CORRECT. A POSTPONEMENT WOULD BE TO POSTPONE IT TO THE NEXT MEETING AND THEN BE.

ALL RIGHT. MEMBERS, THERE'S A MOTION.

DO YOU WITHDRAW THE MOTION? WELL, YOU PLACED THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR, SO LET ME LET ME SEE IF THERE'S A SECOND FOR IT.

WE'LL MOVE FORWARD, IS THERE? SO. SO THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO POSTPONE THE FURTHER HEARING OF THIS ORDINANCE FOR 30 DAYS OR ABOUT 30 DAYS TILL THE NEXT MEETING, I'M ASSUMING.

IS THERE A SECOND? THAT'S WHY THERE'S A SECOND.

IT'S A NON DEBATABLE MOTION.

SO, MADAM CLERK, ON THE MOTION TO POSTPONE THE HEARING OF THIS ORDINANCE.

NUMBER 22-I-19 FOR 30 DAYS.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

YES, SIR. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.TABLE WOULD REQUIRE A VOTE TO TABLE.

BY POSTPONING, IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY COME BACK UP IN 30 DAYS FOR CONSIDERATION.

OKAY, WELL, I WOULD HAVE CALLED THAT HOLDING OVER, BUT THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, SIR. MADAM CLERK, SO WHEN YOU'RE READY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL TO POSTPONE THE HEARING OF ORDINANCE 22-I-19 FOR 30 DAYS.

CERTAINLY. MISS MEDLOCK? MR. ELLIOTT? YES. MR. STOWERS? YES. MR. MCCOY? YES. MR. ROBINSON. ABSENT.

MISS GULLEY? AYE. MISS GREEN? I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND YOUR.

NO, MA'AM. PLEASE. MR. KEITH? YES.

MISS CONEY? YES.

MISS MASSEY? AYE. MISS MCMULLEN? AYE. MISS BLACKWOOD? AYE. MISS LEWISON? YES. MR. REED? NO. YOU'RE ALWAYS A NO.

YOU'RE ALWAYS A NO.

11 AYES, TWO NOES, TWO ABSENT.

SO, MEMBERS, WE HAVE PASSED MR.

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STOWERS MOTION TO HOLD THIS OVER, POSTPONE THIS ITEM UNTIL OUR NEXT QUORUM COURT MEETING.

AND SO MAJOR AND SO FOR FOR A LITTLE BIT OF HELP GOING FORWARD FOR 30 DAYS SO THAT WE DON'T DO THE SAME DANCE WITH EVERYBODY WHO STILL HAS A QUESTION REMAINING.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

HOLD YOUR ARM UP.

SO WILL YOU RECORD ALL THOSE NAMES AND CAN WE COUNT ON YOU TO CONTACT EACH OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS? IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS? THEY WILL STAY AFTER THE MEETING, JUDGE, WHERE I CAN GET THEIR PHONE NUMBERS, AND WE CAN MAKE CALLS.

SO YOU WORK. SO HAVE YOU GOT ALL THEIR NAMES? IF YOU WOULD PLEASE.

NO. EVERYBODY WHO STILL HAS A QUESTION REMAINING.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR LOOKS LIKE.

GO GIVE HIM YOUR NUMBER.

YEAH. AND THE COORDINATOR CAN GET YOU THEIR NUMBERS OR THEY'RE ON THE WEBSITE AS WELL.

DOES THAT DOES THAT HELP YOU? THANK YOU, JUDGE. CAN I SAY THAT THERE'S NO DISRESPECT TO THE MAYOR? IT'S NOT A PERSONAL PROBLEM, BUT I JUST HAVE QUESTIONS AND I WANT TO ASK THEM.

I UNDERSTAND. AND I'M TRYING TO GET YOU AN ANSWER.

[Additional Item]

ALL RIGHT, MEMBERS, THAT BRINGS US TO THE LATE FILING.

AND JUSTICE MASSEY, I THINK YOU'RE THE SPONSOR OF THAT LATE FILING.

JUSTICE MASSEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

I MOVE THAT WE SUSPEND THE RULES.

IS THAT CORRECT? TO HEAR I-20.

SO LET ME TRY AND HELP YOU.

ARE YOU TRYING TO MAKE A MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES TO HERE LATE FILING OF ORDINANCE 22-I-20. YES.

YES. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

MEMBERS, YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION.

YOU'VE HEARD THE SECOND.

MADAM CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON THE VOTE WHETHER TO SUSPEND THE RULES FOR THE HEARING OF THIS LATE FILING? DOES EVERYONE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON? I SEE NO QUESTIONING EYE, SO CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE, MA'AM.

MR. REED. MS. LEWISON? YES. MS. BLACKWOOD? AYE. MS. MCMULLEN? AYE. MS. MASSEY? YES. MR. KEITH? YES. MS. GREEN? AYE MISS GULLEY? AYE. MR. ROBINSON? MR. MCCOY? YES.

MR. STOWERS? MR. ELLIOTT? YES.

MISS MEDLOCK? AYE. 12, YES, ONE ABSENT OR, I'M SORRY, TWO ABSENT AND ONE NO.

THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK.

MISS MASSEY, YOU HAVE PASSED YOUR MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES FOR THE HEARING OF THE LATE FILING. 22-I-20.

YOU'RE NOW RECOGNIZED FOR A MOTION? YES. I MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION.

SECOND. MEMBERS, YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION.

YOU'VE HEARD THE SECOND.

ARE THERE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING THE LATE FILING ORDINANCE? 22-I-20. JUDGE HYDE? I DON'T HAVE A COPY OF THAT ONE.

THANK YOU. DO YOU WANT ME TO READ IT? THERE YOU GO.

NOW I HAVE THE RIGHT LIGHTS LIT.

I APOLOGIZE FOR MY DELAYS TODAY, BUT I WILL STAY AFTER SCHOOL EVERY DAY FOR THE NEXT 30 DAYS TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M USED TO RUNNING THE THE SCOREBOARD HERE AGAIN.

AND I'LL BET YOU WILL.

MADAM CLERK, PLEASE READ THE ORDINANCE 22-I-20 AND ORDNANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 21-OR-46 2022 ANNUAL BUDGET PULASKI COUNTY, ARKANSAS TO RECOGNIZE AND APPROPRIATE GRANT FUNDS FOR THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT FOR THE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR PERSONS WITH AIDS.

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I THINK HOPE IS THE ACRONYM PROGRAM.

THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK.

MEMBERS, YOU'VE HEARD THE.

HEARD THE MOTION.

HEARD THE MOTION. HEARD THE ORDINANCE.

ARE THERE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON 22-I-20.

JUSTICE MCCOY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THE QUESTION.

IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT CAN SPEAK ON WITH THE MASK? I WASN'T SURE IF THAT WAS DIRECT OR LOVE, SO.

THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. UM.

GOOD EVENING, FREDERICK LOVE DIRECTOR COMMUNITY SERVICES.

I IMAGINE THE I'M JUST SEEING THIS RIGHT NOW.

I APOLOGIZE IF IT WAS IN MY PACKET LATE LAST WEEK, BUT THERE ARE THREE ITEMS IN HERE AND I KNOW THESE ARE JUST BUDGETED FIGURES, THREE IDENTICAL ITEMS FOR ELECTRICITY, GAS AND WATER. BUT I IMAGINE THAT'S JUST SOMEWHAT OF AN ARBITRARY GUEST FIGURE FOR THOSE ITEMS. THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY. I GUESS THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU. JUSTICE REED, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THE QUESTION.

WELL, WE JUST NOW GETTING THIS IS THIS ONE THAT YOU JUST GOT OR SOMETHING OR ANYTHING ABOUT IT? WELL, WE'VE BEEN WELL, HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE WITH AIDS.

SO WE'VE BEEN RUNNING THIS PROGRAM FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

IT'S JUST A RENEWAL.

AND SO WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO WORK WITH THE CITY OF LITTLE ROCK TO KIND OF GET THE PAPERWORK JUST RIGHT.

AND SO THEY'RE JUST RETURNING IT.

AND IF WE DIDN'T GET THIS GRANT APPROPRIATED, THEN WE COULDN'T PAY THE THE RENTS THAT USUALLY REOCCUR.

SO THAT'S WHY I WAS LATE.

SO, YOU'RE LATE BECAUSE LITTLE ROCK WAS LATE GETTING THEIR PAPERWORK DONE THEN.

I MEAN, WE TRY TO WORK.

I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT. I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT WE TRY TO WORK BACK AND FORTH WITH LITTLE ROCK TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET THE RENTS PAID.

MADAM CLERK, THERE BEING NO OTHER QUESTIONS, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL FOR THE PASSAGE OF 22-I-20. CERTAINLY.

MS. MEDLOCK. MR. ELLIOTT? YES. MR. STOWERS? YES.

MR. MCCOY? YES, MISS GULLEY? YES. MISS GREEN? AYE. MR. KEITH? YES. MISS CONEY? YES. MISS MASSEY? AYE. MISS MCMULLEN? AYE. MISS BLACKWOOD? AYE. MISS LEWISON? YES.

MR. REED? YES.

13 AYES, TWO ABSENT.

MISS MASSEY, YOU PASSED YOUR ORDINANCE 22-I-20.

THANK YOU, MR. LOVE.

AND MEMBERS THAT ADJOINS THE ADJOURNS.

THE BUSINESS SECTION OF OUR MEETING TONIGHT.

[Announcements]

ARE THERE ANNOUNCEMENTS? THERE BEING NONE. MR.

[Public Comment]

BLAGG, IS THERE ARE THERE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT HAVE BEEN FILED FOR.

I'M ASSUMING IT DOESN'T MATTER WHICH IS WHICH IS SPEAKING FIRST.

SO, MISS JOAN STEWART, WOULD YOU COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM? IF I GOT THAT WRONG, IS IT JOAN? OH, OKAY. MISS STEWART, COME TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

AND MY NAME IS JOAN STEWART.

GREAT. AND IT IS NORMALLY THE THE WISH OF THE COURT THAT COMMENTS NOT EXCEED 3 MINUTES.

SO PLEASE PROCEED AND TRY AND TALK INTO THE MICROPHONE.

SO I'M ACTUALLY HERE.

WE'RE WITH THE EUREKA GARDEN SEWER SYSTEM.

AND ON THE SIDE THAT WHERE WE LIVE, WE ARE ON GRINDER PUMPS AT THE PRESENT TIME.

I DON'T HAVE WATER AT THE HOUSE THAT WAS THE GRINDER PUMP WAS SET AT THE HOUSE THAT'S IN MY MOM'S NAME. THE HOUSE BURNED IN APRIL OF LAST YEAR, BUT WE WERE, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS, WE WERE PROMISED TO BE ON A SEWER SYSTEM.

WHEN IT WIND UP, WE WOUND UP GETTING GRINDER PUMPS.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE BRINGING TO THE COURT TONIGHT.

I WISH MR. HUMPHREY WOULD HAVE GOT CALLED UP FIRST, BECAUSE HE'S BEEN WORKING ON IT MORE THAN I HAVE, BUT I'M PLANNING ON REBUILDING DOWN THERE WHERE THE HOUSE WAS OR PUTTING A MOBILE HOME DOWN THERE. BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE PROPER SEWER AND WE DO HAVE WATER DOWN

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THERE, BUT WE NEED PROPER SEWER INSTEAD OF THE GRINDER PUMPS.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING BRINGING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION, MA'AM.

AND SO NEXT IS MR. JAMES HUMPHREY.

GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, MR. HUMPHREY. YOU AND I HAVE MET BEFORE, HAVEN'T WE? CORRECT. WELL, I THINK.

WE'RE HERE TO REQUEST THE QUORUM COURT DO WHAT IT CAN TO HELP SOLVE THE.

WE ARE HERE.

MR. HUMPHREY? RAISE THE MICROPHONE SO THAT OTHERWISE YOU WON'T BE PICKED UP BY THE TAPE.

WE'RE HERE TO REQUEST THE QUORUM COURT DO WHAT IT CAN TO HELP SOLVE THE FOLLOWING ISSUES.

NUMBER ONE, REPLACE THE GRINDER PUMP SEWER SYSTEM WITH GRAVITY SEWER SYSTEM THAT THE ORIGINAL PLAN CALLED FOR IN THE COMMON AREA.

AND NUMBER TWO, FIND OUT IF YOU [INAUDIBLE] COUNTY ARKANSAS SEWER SYSTEM PROJECT WAS.

DID SOMEBODY SAY SOMETHING? I'M SORRY. FIND OUT IF THE [INAUDIBLE] PULASKI COUNTY, ARKANSAS SEWER PROJECT WAS SOLD FOR $845,800 OR CAN IT BE SOLD AND THAT MONEY USED TO PAY OFF TO ME NOT A LOAN WHICH SHOULD GET ALL THE HOUSEHOLDS INVOLVED IN THIS GRAVE SEWER PROJECT OUT OF DEBT BY THE YEAR 2020, WHICH IS ALREADY PAST.

FIRST, LET ME GIVE YOU SOME INFORMATION THAT YOU THAT WILL HELP YOU UNDERSTAND THE MATTER BETTER. THE EUREKA GARDEN PUBLIC FACILITY BOARD PULASKI COUNTY, ARKANSAS WE REFER TO AS THE BOARD MEMBERS WAS APPOINTED BY THE JUDGE PULASKI COUNTY.

THE BOARD REPRESENTED APPROXIMATELY 220 HOUSEHOLDS IN OBTAINING [INAUDIBLE], FOR THE EUREKA GARDEN AREA, A GRANT AND LOAN IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,837,000 WILL OBTAIN FROM USDA TO DO THE PROJECT. $1,000,000 OF THIS MONEY WAS IN THE FORM OF LOAN AND MUST BE PAID BACK OVER A 40 YEAR PERIOD.

ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IS THAT TITLE SIX OF SRA ACT OF 1964 HAVE BEEN VIOLATED BY FORCING THE HOUSEHOLDS IN THE [INAUDIBLE] AREA TO TAKE A GRANT TO PUMP SEWER SYSTEM INSTEAD OF THE REGULAR SEWER SYSTEM THAT THE PLAN CALLS FOR.

TITLE SIX PROHIBITS DISCRIMINATION ON THE BASIS OF RACE, COLOR, NATIONAL ORIGIN IN ANY PROGRAM OR ACTIVITY THAT RECEIVE FEDERAL FUNDS OR FEDERAL FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS RECEIVING FEDERAL FUNDS CANNOT DISTINGUISH BETWEEN INDIVIDUALS ON THE BASIS OF RACE, COLOR, NATIONAL ORIGIN, EITHER DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY IN THE TYPES QUANTITY, QUALITY, TIMELINESS OF THE PROGRAMS, AIDS, BENEFITS THAT THEY PROVIDE THEM AUTOMATICALLY, WHICH THEY PROVIDE THEM.

AND HERE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF THIS LAW BEING BEING VIOLATED.

ONE, A PREDOMINANTLY MINORITY COMMUNITY IS PROVIDED LOWER BENEFITS, FEWER SERVICES IS SUBJECT TO HARSHER RULES THAN A PREDOMINANTLY NON MINORITY COMMUNITY.

HERE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

AND WHEN I SAY THAT STATEMENT, ONLY BLACK RESIDENTS OWNERS WERE FORCED TO TAKE [INAUDIBLE] THROUGH THE SYSTEM ONLY ON THEIR PROPERTY.

AND HERE'S A DIAGRAM VERIFYING WHAT I JUST SAID.

FURTHER [INAUDIBLE] SUR RESIDENTS ARE SUBJECT TO FEWER SERVICES, HARSHER RULES, AND GREATER SUR RESIDENTS ARE.

THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION SHOWS THAT THIS IS TRUE.

IN 2018, [INAUDIBLE] FUEL SYSTEM BROKE DOWN.

CALLS TO FIX THE GRANDE UPON SEWER SYSTEMS OVER $4,000 GRANITE PUMP SEWER, TOXIC WASTE BACKED UP INTO THE RESIDENTS, FLOWED OUT ONTO THE GROUND AND THREATENED TO HARM OR DESTROY THE RESIDENTS.

IT'S EVERY FORM GIVEN EARLIER SHOWED THE RESIDENTS ON FOOD STAMPS.

NOW TO FORCE A FINANCIAL BURDEN ON RESIDENTS ON FOOD STAMPS OF THAT MAGNITUDE IS ACTUALLY FORCING THAT RESIDENT TO COMMIT FINANCIAL SUICIDE.

THERE'S NO CHARGE TO THE GRAVATT SEWER SYSTEM RESIDENT.

PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT THE BILLS AND SURVEY FORM TO VERIFY STATEMENT.

SECOND, THE GRAND PUMP SEWER SYSTEM WAS IMPROPERLY INSTALLED.

THE GRAND PUMP SEWER SYSTEM PIPES WERE FOUND CUT ON A PART OF THE GRAND PUMP SEWER SYSTEM. PIPES WERE CONNECTED TO THE GRAND PUMP.

THE UNCONNECTED PART OF THE GRAND PUMP.

SEWER PIPES ALLOWED TOXIC GRANITE PUMPS OF WASTE TO FLOW INTO THE GROUND, POLLUTING THE ENVIRONMENT, THUS THREATENING TO POISON THE RESIDENT WITH THEIR OWN TOXIC GRINDER PUMP SEWER WASTE IN THIRD.

THE GRANITE PUMP SEWER SYSTEM NOT BURIED TO THE PROPER DEPTH.

A 244 LIVE WIRE UNCOVERED AND ABOVE GROUND.

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THE RESIDENT IS UNDER THE THREAT OF BEING EXECUTED BY THE 244 UNCOVERED LIVE WIRE.

PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT THE PICTURE TO VERIFY THIS STATEMENT.

I'LL GIVE THAT TO YOU LATER SO I CAN GO ON.

WELL, LET'S REVISIT.

FORGIVE ME. AGAIN, WE ASK QUORUM COURT DO WHAT HE CAN TO GET THE [INAUDIBLE] REPLACED WITH THE GRAVEL SEWER SYSTEM IMMEDIATELY.

BECAUSE THIS IS A LIFE THREATENING MATTER THAT REQUIRES MEDIA ATTENTION.

SECOND, WE HAVE TO TO FIND OUT.

IT'S REGARDING THE BOARD OF PLATS COUNTY, ARKANSAS.

GRADED SEWER SYSTEM WAS SOLD FOR $845,800.

CAN BE SOLD. AND THAT MONEY USED TO PAY OFF THE MILLION DOLLAR LOAN.

IF THIS HAD BEEN DONE ACCORDING TO CALCULATIONS, ALONG WITH NORMAL PAYMENTS REGARDING SEWER PROJECT PARTICIPANTS, ALL OF THEM SHOULD HAVE BEEN OUT OF DEBT BY THE YEAR 2020.

PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT THE CALCULATIONS.

VERIFY STATEMENT.

AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, MR. HUMPHREY. AND YOU ALL HAVE A GOOD NIGHT AND HAVE A SAFE TRIP HOME.

AND YOU GOT.

WELL, NO, WE DON'T USUALLY START AN OPEN CONVERSATION WITH THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE HERE.

AND YOU TALK TO HIM.

HE MIGHT WANT TO TALK TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND MR. LOVE ON THE OWNERSHIP.

I'M PRETTY SURE THE QUORUM COURT NOR PULASKI COUNTY OWNS THE SEWER SYSTEM.

I THINK WE ADMINISTERED THE GRANT WHEN IT WAS PUT IN A LONG TIME AGO.

SO, MEMBERS, THE MEETING IS ADJOURN.

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