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[00:00:04]

GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.

WE'RE GOING TO GET OUR BUDGET HEARING FOR OUR SPRING 22 SESSION.

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? DURING THE LEFT.

OH. OH, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

ALL RIGHT, SIX MEMBERS PRESENT.

MADAM CHAIR, YOU HAVE A QUORUM. ALL RIGHT.

[3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

THANK YOU. WE WILL NOW GET APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM OUR LAST BUDGET MEETING.

CAN I GET AN APPROVAL OF THOSE MINUTES? BEEN MOVED ANHD PROPERLY SECONDED, THOSE IN FAVOR LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING.

ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

WE ARE NOW DOWN TO NEW BUSINESS, WHICH IS A BUDGET OVERVIEW BY OUR COMPTROLLER.

[4. NEW BUSINESS]

CAN YOU HEAR ME? I'VE GOT A LITTLE ALLERGY THING GOING ON HERE, SO.

YEAH, IT'S NOT COVID.

ACTUALLY TOOK A TEST THIS MORNING.

OH. I SAY THIS A LOT.

WE'RE IN REALLY GOOD SHAPE.

HERE'S WHY. PART OF IT IS WE HAD A GOOD CARRY OVER OUR NORMAL SIX, SEVEN, 8 MILLION WITHOUT COVID. BUT DUE TO COVID, WE DID TWO THINGS.

YOU LOWERED THE EXPENSE IN YOUR GENERAL FUND BY USING COVID MONEY TO COVER SOME OF THE THINGS WE WOULD NORMALLY COVER.

AND YOU TRANSFERRED MONEY BACK OUT OF THERE WAS PROVISIONS IN THERE FOR REVENUE LOST REVENUE THAT THEY HAD A FORMULA FOR.

SO WE WERE ABLE TO RECOUP THAT.

SO AT THE TIME YOU PUT ALL THESE THINGS TOGETHER, YOU HAD A CARRYOVER OF A LITTLE OVER WELL, A LOT OVER $27 MILLION.

IF YOU'LL LOOK ON THE ORDNANCE THAT MR. BLAGG HAS PUT TOGETHER, $27,802,295.

I DARE SAY NO ONE IN HERE HAS HAD THAT KIND OF CARRYOVER BEFORE.

EVEN IN THE GOOD OLD DAYS.

SO THAT BEING SAID, AND WE'RE ON SOLID FINANCIAL GROUND, WE HAVE A REAPPRAISAL COMING UP, WHICH IS GOING TO BOOST SOME THINGS.

ALL THE OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THE DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE WORKING HARD TO KEEP THEIR EXPENDITURES WHERE THEY NEED TO BE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE.

A LOT BETTER THAN MOST PLACES.

OKAY. SOMEBODY SURELY HAS A QUESTION AND I WOULD LOVE TO ANSWER.

IF YOU DON'T, I'M NOT MAD EITHER.

DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YEAH, I'LL TAKE THE QUESTION.

OKAY. MR. KEITH, ALWAYS GOOD FOR A QUESTION.

AND THIS IS A GREAT QUESTION.

WITH ALL OF THE THE CARRYOVER OF MONEY AND THE MONEY THAT WE WERE ABLE TO, I GUESS, GO BACK IN AND REALLOCATE TO, I GUESS, TAKE UP FOR THE GENERAL FUND.

AT WHAT POINT CAN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT COME IN AND ASK TO LOOK AT HOW THAT MONEY WAS ACCOUNTED FOR? ANY TIME THEY WANT.

ANY TIME THEY WANT. BUT I FILL OUT A QUARTERLY REPORT THAT GOES STRAIGHT TO THE FEDS AND A YEARLY REPORT.

SO I JUST FINISHED THE QUARTERLY REPORT, THE FIRST QUARTERLY REPORT FOR 2022.

AND IT BREAKS DOWN EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE WITH THE MONEY.

THEY HAVE CATEGORIES.

THEY MADE IT A LITTLE FUN BECAUSE THEY CHANGE SOME OF THE CATEGORY NAMES BETWEEN THE LAST REPORT I DID AND THIS ONE.

SO I HAD TO GO IN AND MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS.

BUT THEY'RE REALLY GOOD ABOUT HIGHLIGHTING THAT AND SAYING, GO CHANGE THIS.

SO WHEN AND IF WE GET AUDITED, WE'LL GET WE'LL BE AUDITED ON IT BECAUSE IT'S TREATED AS A GRANT. THIS IS TREATED AS A GRANT.

SO IN OUR GRANT AUDIT THIS YEAR, WE'LL HAVE TO THEY'LL HAVE TO REVIEW THIS.

OKAY. BUT THE FEDS HAVE THE OPTION OF COMING IN AND AUDITING US ANY TIME THEY WANT.

WE HAVE BEEN VERY CAREFUL AS A COUNTY NOT TO SPEND MONEY ON ANYTHING THAT'S BORDERLINE.

[00:05:02]

WE KNOW IT FITS WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF.

OF WHAT WERE LAID OUT BY THE DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY.

SO AS MUCH AS I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH AN AUDIT, I'M NOT WORRIED WHEN WE DO.

OKAY. AND CAN YOU REMIND ME, HUTCH, I THINK YOU MENTIONED THE MEETING WHEN I HAD THE SECOND PAYMENT.

IF IT COMES, YOU SAID IT WOULD COME AFTER.

WHY DO THEY? IT WILL NOT BECOME THE WAY THEY WORDED THE LAW, AS THEY SAID, IF YOU GET A SECOND PAYMENT. AND SO YOU WOULD, RIGHT.

IF YOU GET A SECOND PAYMENT, IT WOULD NOT COME BEFORE ONE YEAR FROM WHEN YOU GOT THE LAST ONE. WE GOT THE LAST ONE ON MAY 12TH.

OKAY. OKAY.

SO IF WE'RE GOING TO GET THE SECOND DRAW, IT'LL BE SOMETIME AFTER MAY 12TH.

IT MIGHT BE MAY 13TH.

IT MIGHT BE JUNE, AUGUST, SOMETIME NEXT YEAR.

WHO KNOWS? RIGHT.

BUT IN MY LAST QUESTION IS FOR 2020-21.

THIS 7 MILLION 688.

IS THAT THE RESERVE WE HAD LAST YEAR? NO. YOUR RESERVE LAST YEAR.

THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO ADD TO THE RESERVE THIS YEAR.

SO WHAT'S THE RESERVE FROM MILLION.

10 MILLION. YES.

SO WE'LL ADD THIS ADDITIONAL 7 MILLION TO COME UP TO ABOUT WHAT, 18 MILLION IS THAT? SOMEWHERE IN THERE. SOMEWHERE.

OKAY. I USUALLY SHOW ROUND NUMBERS ON THAT BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS INTEREST.

AND SO INSTEAD OF SAYING, OH, $34.12, I JUST DO A ROUNDING.

OKAY. ON Y'ALL'S REPORT.

YEAH. THIS WILL BOOST US UP BECAUSE KEEP IN MIND, THAT'S KIND OF OUR 10%, RIGHT? AND THIS YEAR, YOUR BUDGET'S IN THE $83, $84 MILLION RANGE.

AND SO WITH THE KIND OF GROWTH WE NORMALLY HAVE AND WHAT WE'RE DOING THAT'S GOING TO COVER YOU. OKAY.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, HUTCH.

I HAVE NO OTHER QUESTIONS.

I YIELD. OKAY.

JUSTICE MCCOY YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

HUTCH WILL YOU BE PROVIDING.

I ASSUME THE ANSWER IS NO, BUT WILL YOU BE PROVIDING ANY RECOMMENDATIONS ON THIS CARRYOVER? ABSOLUTELY.

IT'S IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT. THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.

WELL, ASIDE FROM JUST.

SO THERE WAS A THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PRETTY MUCH ANYBODY, I BELIEVE, ELECTED OFFICIALS OR IN THE COUNTY TO PRODUCE IDEAS FOR.

YEAH. FOR THE. AND HAVE YOU HAVE YOU CREATED SOME OF THESE IDEAS? AND IF NOT, I'M CURIOUS IF IF YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME.

A COUPLE OF THINGS YOU MIGHT RECOMMEND.

NO, HERE'S HERE'S NO.

I HAVE NO RECOMMENDATIONS.

I DON'T I DON'T THIS JOB I DON'T MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS UNLESS IT'S ABOUT WHAT YOU SHOULD DO WITH SOME MONEY FINANCIALLY.

YEAH. AS FAR AS WHAT GOES ON OUT IN THAT COMMUNITY.

TO BE QUITE HONEST, I'M NOT UP FOR ELECTION.

I'M NOT. I DON'T HAVE TO.

I'M NOT GOING DOWN THAT ROAD.

RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY THE WE GET PHONE CALLS EVERY DAY.

I HAD ONE TODAY. LIKE, I'VE GOT A GREAT IDEA FOR YOU TO SPEND THIS [INAUDIBLE] MONEY ON.

REALLY? WHAT IS IT? OH, YOU SHOULD GO OUT AND BUILD THIS AND DO THIS AND RUN THIS ROAD UP THROUGH HERE AND DO ALL THAT. THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

EXCEPT THAT'S NOT IN PULASKI COUNTY, SO I REALLY DON'T THINK WE CAN DO THAT.

I MEAN, WE GET PHONE CALLS EVERY DAY.

WHAT THE JUDGE ATTEMPTED TO DO.

AND ARE WE, OFF OF THE CARRY OVER? WE ARE. WE'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA GET TO THAT IN SHORTLY.

SO, YEAH, IT'S KIND OF VEERED OFF.

YEAH. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO I YIELD.

OK. JUSTICE LEWISON YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

HUTCH SO YOU SAID MAY 12 WAS THE LAST PAYMENT.

SO THEN THE SECOND PAYMENT MIGHT COME IN OR IT MIGHT NOT.

IT CANNOT COME BEFORE MAY 12TH.

RIGHT. BUT I MEAN, DO THEY, LIKE, SEND YOU A LETTER AND SAY YOU'RE GOING TO GET THIS MONEY? I MEAN, HOW DO YOU KNOW? IT SHOWS UP IN THE BANK ACCOUNT.

THEY DO A DIRECT DRAFT.

THE TREASURER'S OFFICE WILL EMAIL ME AND GO, HEY, MONEY SHOWED UP.

IT'S JUST LIKE IT'S FOR YOU ALL TO UNDERSTAND.

THE STATE, THE FEDS.

WE USUALLY KNOW WHEN MONEY'S COMING.

WE'LL KNOW THAT JUSTIN APPLIED FOR A GRANT.

IT WAS FOR $12.

$12 SHOWED UP.

WE KNOW IT GOES TO THAT GRANT.

SOMETIMES WE DON'T WE HAVE MONEY SHOW UP AND AND THEY'LL SEND OUT AN EMAIL GOING, DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHO THIS BELONGS TO? NOT VERY OFTEN, BUT OCCASIONALLY.

SOMEBODY GO OH, YEAH, YEAH.

I FORGOT ABOUT THAT. THAT WAS A GRANT OR THAT WAS A PAYMENT FROM THE STATE FOR THIS OR WHATEVER. ON THIS ONE.

I'LL GET AN EMAIL SAYING, HEY, 38 MILLION WHATEVER THE PRICE WAS, THE EXACT NUMBER IS IS

[00:10:04]

IN THIS ACCOUNT. I'LL SAY THAT'S ARPA.

THIS IS THE FUND FOR IT.

I'LL SEND THEM THE REVENUE SERIES AND IT'S DEPOSITED THEN I KNOW WHERE IT GOES.

THAT'S JUST A STANDARD.

THAT'S WHAT WE DO EVERY DAY.

BUT DO THEY HAVE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS? DO WHAT? DO THEY HAVE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS? NO, IT SHOWS UP IN THE BANK.

OH, IT SHOWS.

NO, WE GET A NO.

THAT'S THE TREASURER'S OFFICE THAT'S GOING TO CONTACT US.

OKAY. GOT IT.

THANKS. CANDY GRAHAM.

ARE YOU. ARE YOU THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? JUSTICE LEWISON. NO, I'M FINE.

JUSTICE MCCOY.

YES. I NEED TO BE EDUCATED.

WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? WELL, THE CARRYOVER THAT WE HAVEN'T GOT TO YOUR ORDINANCE YET.

OKAY. OKAY. WHAT THEY WERE ASKING ABOUT WAS KIND OF.

I WAS TELLING YOU HOW WE GOT TO THE CARRYOVER AMOUNT.

AND THEN YOU ASKED, IS THERE ANY OF THESE THINGS ON HERE.

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW WE GOT TO THAT NUMBER AND WHEN THEY'RE READY, I CAN START TELLING YOU OKAY. I DO HAVE A QUESTION WHERE IT SAYS IMPACT ON OTHER FUNDS.

I KNOW IT SAYS INCREASE FOR OUR EMERGENCY RESERVE BY 7 MILLION.

AMERICAN. THE ARPA MONEY DECREASED BY 4 MILLION.

WHAT DOES DOES THAT MEAN? THAT MEANS YOU'RE SPENDING THAT MONEY IF YOU APPROVE THESE PROJECTS, RIGHT? I MEAN, I GUESS I SHOULD SAY.

IS THERE ANY LEFT AFTER AFTER THAT? OH, THIS WILL ZERO IT. OKAY.

THANK GOODNESS. OKAY.

THANK YOU. WE ARE NOW DOWN TO DISCUSSION OF THE ITEM.

OKAY. CAN I GO BACK TO WHAT, MR. MCCOY? YES. YES.

OKAY. OH, SORRY.

WE'VE GOT TO DO MARKET RATE.

SORRY. JUSTIN'S KEEPING ME ON ROLL HERE.

MY BAD, MY BAD.

YOU STILL HAVE THE FLOOR.

OKAY, WE'VE LOOKED AT WHAT OUR REVENUE IS GOING TO BE THIS YEAR.

Y'ALL HAVE SEEN THAT. AND I DO THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN INCREASE AND BE ABOVE THAT BECAUSE WE'RE CONSERVATIVE.

YOU ALL HAVE SEEN THE NUMBERS ON THE NEWS ABOUT INFLATION, HOW THINGS ARE GOING.

YOU'RE FAMILIAR THAT EVER THREE YEARS, EVERY THREE YEARS WE [INAUDIBLE] UPGRADES OUR OUR SALARY SCALE SO WE CAN STAY COMPETITIVE IN THE MARKET.

THAT'S COMING UP.

THE FIRST TIME THAT HAPPENED, WE WERE 12% WE WERE 12% BELOW MARKET.

AND IT TOOK US THIS LONG TO CLIMB BACK UP THERE.

WHAT WE'RE THINKING AND WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO.

AND IT WOULD COST ABOUT 1.1 COUNTYWIDE IS TO MOVE EVERYBODY TO THAT MARKET RATE BECAUSE TWO THINGS.

ONE, IT WON'T GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL LIKE WHAT? JUNE? ACTUALLY, IT'S THE LAST WEEK IN MAY WHEN THAT PAYROLL FALLS IS WHEN THEY GO INTO EFFECT. BUT IT'S GOING TO FIRST HELP OFFSET THE INFLATION.

AND NUMBER TWO, PUTS YOU IN A BETTER POSITION WHEN THEY DO THAT STUDY THAT WE'RE NOT, AGAIN, 12 OR 14% BELOW THAT NUMBER, THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING SMALLER TO WORK TOWARDS.

SO WE CAN DO THIS IN SMALLER PIECES INSTEAD OF TRYING TO TAKE BIG LEAPS AT A TIME TO STAY CAUGHT UP. AND I CAN CONFIDENTLY TELL YOU THAT THROUGH OUR NORMAL REVENUE, YOU WOULDN'T BE USING ONE TIME MONEY FOR THIS THROUGH OUR NORMAL REVENUE, BECAUSE MR. KEITH IS GOING TO ASK THIS BECAUSE HE ALWAYS DOES.

BECAUSE IT'S A GOOD QUESTION IS CAN WE AFFORD THAT? YES. YOUR NORMAL REVENUE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS YEAR AND GOING INTO THE NEXT, WE'LL SUPPORT THIS.

[INAUDIBLE] ON THAT, MR. KEITH? YES.

NO, I APPRECIATE THAT QUESTION.

YOU ALWAYS ASK THAT QUESTION, AND I'M GLAD YOU DO, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW.

YES, SIR. THAT'S COOL. YOU BEAT ME TO THE PUNCH.

BUT OKAY, I APPRECIATE THAT.

NEXT TIME I'LL LET YOU GO AHEAD AND ASK ME.

IT'S YOUR TURN NEXT TIME.

BUT TRYING TO JUST MAKE IT EASY.

THAT'S WHAT WE NEED. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THE MARKET RATE SALARY ADJUSTMENTS? OH, RIGHT.

GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

AND MAYBE THIS IS WELL, I'M ASSUMING THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME.

I KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT MOVING IT, MOVING THE ENTIRE COUNTY UP TO FAIR MARKET OR THE MARKET RATE. HOW DOES THIS AFFECT THE INCREASES THAT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT ON

[00:15:02]

THURSDAY? WELL, NO.

NEXT TUESDAY, THEY'RE IN THE PAY SCALE.

YOU'RE CHANGING THE PAY SCALE.

SO DON'T THINK ABOUT JUST IN GETTING THIS RAISE.

IT'S THAT POSITION. IF THAT POSITION CHANGES, IF HE WAS ON THAT.

IF HE WAS ON ONE OF THOSE POSITIONS THAT WAS GETTING THAT UPGRADE, WELL, IT'S PROBABLY THAT PAY SCALE IS CHANGING.

SO HE'S GOING TO FIT INTO THAT PAY SCALE.

SO. IT'S BEEN FIGURED IN IN CASE THERE'S SOME CHANGES.

AND IF NOT, YOU'RE JUST GOING TO BE BOOKING THE MONEY.

YOU'RE GOING TO BE HOLDING IT. OKAY.

OKAY. NOT TO PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE WE DO THAT TO BE SAFE, JUST LIKE WHEN WE'RE DOING THEM IN THE FALL WHEN WE WERE ON SALARIES.

OKAY. WE PRETEND EVERYBODY IS AT THIS RATE.

SO. WORST CASE SCENARIO, IF Y'ALL CHANGE YOUR MIND, FLIP STUFF AROUND, DO WHATEVER.

WE'RE COVERED. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. GOOD DEAL. I YIELD.

THANK YOU. JUSTICE GREEN, YOU RECOGNIZED I WANTED TO ASK YOU, SINCE YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOME UPGRADING, [INAUDIBLE] IS GOING TO BE DOING SOME UPGRADING THOSE, I GUESS, ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO ARE ALREADY MAKING ABOVE THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS AREN'T IN [INAUDIBLE] ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE ARE ARE RUN BY ARKANSAS CODE.

OKAY. BECAUSE I'VE HAD I'VE HAD A LOT OF THE SEVERAL OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO THEY HAVE A PROBLEM BECAUSE SOME OF THEIR EMPLOYEES GOT RAISES AND THEY DIDN'T.

AND I TRIED TO EXPLAIN IT TO THEM.

THEY WERE MAKING MORE THAN THEIR SELVES, THAN THEIR CEILING.

ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE.

THEIR SALARY IS DETERMINED BY ARKANSAS CODE.

OKAY.

2022 MAX RATE THAT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL CAN MAKE IN THOSE POSITIONS.

SO FOR BECAUSE THE STATE OF ARKANSAS SETS A MAX RATE THAT EACH ELECTED OFFICIAL CAN MAKE FOR THOSE CERTAIN POSITIONS.

YOU GUYS ADOPTED AN ORDINANCE A FEW YEARS BACK THAT THOSE SALARIES WOULD ADJUST WITH THAT LEGISLATION. SO RIGHT NOW, ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE AT THE 2022 MAX.

OKAY. DID I TELL THEM RIGHT WHEN I SAID THAT THE REASON THEY DIDN'T GET RAISES IS BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY ABOVE THEIR CEILING.

THEY ARE RIGHT AT IT. YEAH, RIGHT OUT OF THE [INAUDIBLE] YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T NOT EXCEED IT. YEAH, YOU CANNOT EXCEED IT.

BUT YOU CAN GO TO THE MAX AND YOUR GUYS ARE AT THE MAX, AND THEN NEXT YEAR YOU WILL ADJUST FOR 2023 AND SO FORTH AND SO ON.

AND IT'S ACTUALLY BUILT IN, LIKE JUSTIN WAS SAYING, WHERE YOU ALL DO THAT AUTOMATICALLY DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS.

JUSTICE GREEN. YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I YIELD. OKAY. THANK YOU.

JUSTICE KEITH YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

I'VE GOT FOR YOU, HUTCH.

I'VE GOT AN INTERESTING.

WELL, NOT AN INTERESTING QUESTION.

I'VE GOT A QUESTION. FOR 14 YEARS, I GUESS WE'VE BEEN ON AN UPWARD TREND.

AND I THINK I THINK I SHARED IT ONCE WE STARTED IT RIGHT AT 40, YOU KNOW, RIGHT AT 50 MILLION WHEN I WHEN I CAME ON THE QUORUM COURT.

AND NOW WE'RE RIGHT AT, WHAT, OVER 83, 84 MILLION? WHAT IS IT? WHAT INDICATOR WOULD WE GET IN THE COUNTY THAT OUR REVENUE WOULD BE TAKEN A DOWNTURN? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA? WELL, YOU MEAN THERE WON'T BE ONE INDICATOR, OKAY? THERE WON'T BE WHAT I DO EVERY NOT EVERY DAY, BUT A COUPLE OF TIMES A WEEK, YOU REVIEW THE REVENUE THAT'S COMING IN.

I HAVE THERE'S SEVERAL HUNDRED LINES.

SOME OF THEM HAVE A FEW DOLLARS IN THEM AND SOME OF THEM HAVE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS IN THEM. AND THEY CHANGE.

EXCUSE ME, YOU GET A REPORT EVERY MONTH, THE LONG ONE.

RIGHT. WHICH IS HAS ALL THE REVENUE, BUT IT JUST HAS A FRACTION OF THE CODES THAT ALL THIS STUFF GETS DIVIDED INTO.

AND THAT'S ALL STATE LAW.

FASCINATING READING WHAT WE LOOK AT AND WHAT WE REALLY STUDIED HARD, ESPECIALLY IN 2021 BECAUSE OF COVID WAS LOOKING AT.

WHAT EVERYBODY HAD THESE GLOOM AND DOOM.

WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? SALES TAX IS GOING TO BE DOWN.

PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO SHOP.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BUY. THEY'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO LOSE THIS MONEY.

AND WE REALLY DIDN'T. YEAH, WE DIDN'T.

PEOPLE STILL BOUGHT STUFF.

THEY HAD UBEREATS BRING IT TO HIM.

THEY ORDERED ONLINE AND THINGS OF THAT LAW CHANGE YEARS AGO, SALES TAX DIDN'T REALLY CHANGE. AND WE DON'T WE DON'T LIVE AND DIE ON SALES TAX LIKE CITIES DO.

OKAY. OURS IS PROPERTY TAX.

AS LONG AS YOU HAVE GROWTH IN YOUR PROPERTY TAX, EVEN A LITTLE GROWTH WHEN YOU START TAKING ONE AND 2% OF $40 MILLION, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

SO AND WHEN THEY DO RE APPRAISALS, THEY MIGHT SAY, WELL, THIS PART OF THE COUNTY GREW.

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THIS PART SHRUNK OR WENT DOWN.

THIS PART STAYED THE SAME.

ALL THAT STUFF'S LOOKED AT WHERE YOU GET A TOTAL PERCENTAGE.

WE LOOKED AT THIS PAST YEAR, TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, WHERE THEY AREN'T HAVING COURTS, WHAT'S IT GOING TO DO WITH FINES AND FEES.

WELL, THEY MIGHT HAVE BEEN HAVING COURT, BUT PEOPLE ARE STILL PAYING FINES AND FEES.

THERE'S A LITTLE LAG THERE.

BUT AS SOON AS THEY GOT THE COURTS RUNNING AGAIN AND THEY CALLED UP JUSTIN AND SAID, YOU BETTER GET OUT, I'M GONNA PICK ON YOU.

YOU BETTER GET OVER HERE AND PAY THIS.

THEY DID. OKAY.

IF THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT, THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT.

SO THERE'S NOT ONE INDICATOR I LOOK AT I LOOK AT THE LINES AND I KIND OF KNOW, WELL, THIS ONE SHOULD START PICKING UP THIS TIME OF YEAR.

THIS ONE WON'T START UNTIL THIS TIME OF YEAR.

IF YOU LOOK AT OUR PROPERTY TAX, IT'S JUST NOW SHOWING MONEY IN IT BECAUSE THE BILLS JUST WENT OUT RIGHT BEFORE THAT.

IT'S SAD LOOKING BECAUSE NO ONE'S PAYING TAXES.

THAT'S WHERE YOUR RESERVE COMES IN BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LIVING OFF OF UNTIL THAT STUFF PICKS UP.

SO THERE'S NOT ONE INDICATOR.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. ARE YOU.

THANK YOU. I GUESS MOVING ON TO WHAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING IS THE CARRYOVER AND THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN FUNDS APPROPRIATION.

YOU GOT TO SAY, YEAH, YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT OR NO, YOU'RE NOT.

MIC] CAN I GET A MOTION FROM SOMEONE? AND AMY SAID, Y'ALL BETTER TALKING TO THE MIC [INAUDIBLE] JUSTICE.

I APOLOGIZE. SO IT REQUIRES A MOTION TO INCREASE OR MAKE THE SALARY ADJUSTMENT UP TO 100% OF THE MARKET RATE.

BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECOND THAT WE MOVE ALL POSITIONS UP TO MARKET RATE.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION REGARDING THIS ORDINANCE? IF THERE BE NONE.

JUSTIN, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? YES, MA'AM. OH. NOW WE HAVE QUESTIONS.

NOW WE HAVE QUESTIONS.

BUT THIS STILL IS GOING BEFORE THE FULL QUORUM COURT, RIGHT? SO WHAT? EVERYTHING Y'ALL DO GOES TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT.

SO AT WHAT POINT DO WE SEND IT TO THE FULL QUORUM? RIGHT. WELL, WHEN THE MOTION, I GUESS IT NEEDS TO SAY TO THE MOTION WAS TO SEND IT TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT WITH DO PASS RECOMMENDATION.

OH, I MISSED THAT PART.

OKAY. IT WAS. IT WAS IT WAS IN THE SO MOVED.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. I'M SORRY. I APOLOGIZE.

I'M ASLEEP UP HERE.

I APOLOGIZE.

SO AM I.

OKAY. DO WE NEED TO SAY IT AGAIN? I THINK WE GOT IT. WE GOT WE.

WE GOT IT. JUSTICE CONEY.

DO YOU STILL HAVE YOUR LIGHT WAS ON? WELL, IT WAS MY QUESTION WAS ANSWERED.

OH, OKAY. THANKS.

JUSTIN, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? YES, MA'AM. YES. SIX AYES, NO NAYS.

THE MOTION PASSES.

ALL RIGHT. THIS WILL GO TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT FOR FINAL APPROVAL.

NOW WE ARE TO DISCUSS THE CARRYOVER AND AMERICAN RESCUE FUND APPROPRIATION.

JUST AS GREEN. YOUR LIGHT IS ON.

DO YOU HAVE.

ME TO READ IT OR DO YOU WANT TO READ IT.

WOULD YOU READ IT, PLEASE? ITEM 22-I-24 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 21-OR-06 ANNUAL BUDGET PULASKI COUNTY, ARKANSAS TO RECOGNIZE REVENUE FROM CARRYOVER INTO THE GENERAL FUND AND THE EMERGENCY RESERVE FUND TO APPROPRIATE GENERAL FUND CARRYOVER MONEY INTO THE GENERAL COUNTY GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENT AND TO APPROPRIATE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN FUNDS TO THE AMERICAN

[00:25:02]

RESCUE PLAN DEPARTMENT.

CAN WE GET A MOTION TO APPROVE.

BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECOND.

SO NOW WE ARE THERE IS AN AMENDMENT, SO I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE WHERE MR. STOWERS IS, BUT HE HAS INTRODUCED AN AMENDMENT THAT WOULD SIMPLY ADD LANGUAGE AND AN ARTICLE SPELLING OUT THE SPECIFIC PROGRAMS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED THAT WOULD BE PAID FOR BY THIS BY THIS ORDINANCE.

SO OBVIOUSLY, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE MERITS OF HIS AMENDMENT, BUT THAT'S SIMPLY WHAT IT IS.

SO IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO HANDLE IT FOR HIM, THAT'S UP TO YOU ALL.

DOES SOMEONE WANT TO MOVE THE AMENDMENT FORWARD? JUSTICE MCCOY.

OKAY. ONTO THE ORDINANCE.

OKAY. WE ARE NOW BACK AT DISCUSSION ON THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE.

CAN I CONTINUE WITH MR. MCCOY? YES.

QUESTION. YES, SIR. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

OK JUSTICE MCCOY.

YOU ASKED ABOUT, I GUESS, WHERE THESE IDEAS CAME FROM FOR THESE DIFFERENT PROJECTS.

AND I WAS TELLING YOU THAT WE GET PHONE CALLS ALL THE TIME.

THE ONLY TWO PROJECTS THAT I KNOW ON HERE THAT CAME FROM JP'S WAS THE TLC TENNIS LITERATURE AND CHESS PROGRAM.

IT'S A YOUTH PROGRAM.

MS. DONNA INTRODUCED US TO THAT GENTLEMAN AND MS. BLACKWOOD BROUGHT US RONALD MCDONALD HOUSE.

THEY HAVE VERY GOOD MCNUGGETS, IN CASE YOU DIDN'T KNOW.

THOSE ARE ONLY TWO THAT I KNOW OF THAT CAME FROM JP'S.

THE REST OF THESE SOME OF THIS CARRYOVER, YOU HAVE MY NORMAL STUFF ON THERE, THE REPAIRS THAT I WANT TO DO EVERY YEAR TO BUILDINGS.

I HAVE ROOF REPAIRS, BATHROOMS. AND THIS IN ABOUT EVERY BUILDING WE'VE GOT.

I'VE GOT SOME WORK GOING ON.

AND THEN YOU HAVE SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE LIKE THE CHILDREN'S PROTECTION CENTER. THAT WAS A GROUP THAT CONTACTED THE JUDGE.

THEY RUN A PROGRAM.

I THINK ALL YOU ALL RECEIVED OR HAVE TALKED TO THE JUDGE AND WENT THROUGH THE BOOKS WHERE THEY'RE THEY ASSIST THESE KIDS IN DOMESTIC SITUATIONS THAT HAVE GONE BAD.

WITHOUT BEING TOO GRAPHIC.

ALL OF THIS STUFF.

FALLS UNDER ARPA OR IS WITH CARRYOVER MONEY.

SO YOU'RE COVERED. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING A SPECIFIC PROJECT, OR I GUESS WE COULD GO THROUGH THEM ALL, BUT I THINK MOST OF YOU ALREADY HAVE.

SO I'M OPEN TO WHATEVER Y'ALL WANT TO COME UP ON OF THIS.

MA'AM, THIS ONE MOMENT, IT'S ON.

ONE MOMENT. JUSTICE MCCOY, ARE YOU? YEAH.

NO, AND I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF.

IF YOU'D GIVE AN INPUT HUTCH AS TO HOW TO USE SOME OF THESE ARPA FUNDS.

I ASSUME THE ANSWER WAS NO.

BUT YOU YOU.

YOU DO HAVE SOME THINGS.

OH, I DO HAVE I DO HAVE ABOUT SEVEN, SEVEN AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS ON REPAIRS TO BUILDINGS. THAT'S NOT ARPA MONEY.

THAT'S YOUR STRAIGHT CARRYOVER.

OKAY. OKAY. WE'VE GOT SOME BATHROOMS THAT NEED SOME ATTENTION.

I HATE TO SAY IT OUT LOUD, BUT WE'VE GOT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF CHANGES FOR ADA AND THEN WE NEED TO MAKE SOME CHANGES BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST FLAT FALLING APART, THE PUBLIC AS A WHOLE AND THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT GETS KIND OF HARD ON STUFF AND WE'VE GOT SOME ROOFS THAT NEED SOME WORK.

I DON'T THINK I'M FORGETTING ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT PART.

YEAH, I WAS JUST CURIOUS. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE INSERTED SOME PROJECTS.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF YOU HAD IF YOU WERE LIKE, NOPE, I DON'T DO ANY OF THE IDEAS.

NO. MY ASSUMPTION WAS WRONG.

OH, THAT STUFF'S THE GENERAL MAINTENANCE STUFF THAT I BRING OUT.

LAST YEAR, Y'ALL DID LIKE 8 MILLION IN IT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT WE HAD THIS YEAR IT'S A LITTLE LESS. I WAS THINKING PURELY ARPA.

NO I DON'T. YEAH.

GO DOWN THAT ROAD. YEAH, I WAS, I WAS IN ON THE PART OF IT WHERE THEY GO, HEY, IS THIS

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LEGAL USE OF ARPA FUNDS BECAUSE.

I HAVE TO READ THAT THING ABOUT ONCE A WEEK.

AND SO YEAH, THAT PART.

YES, I FEEL FOR NOW.

THANKS. AND ALSO, I DON'T KNOW IF IF THIS IS IMPORTANT TO YOU, BUT I'M SURE THAT EVERY PLAN THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED THAT HE WAS PROBABLY A PART OF LOOKING OVER THE PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS COMPLIANT WITH OUR RULES AND REGULATIONS AS WELL AS YOU KNOW.

YEAH, I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.

YEAH, I DID DO THAT.

I DIDN'T BRING ANY OF THE OTHER THAN THE OTHER THAN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, BUT I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T BRING UP RONALD MCDONALD HOUSE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

LEAVE THAT TO YOU. ALL RIGHT, JUSTICE MCCOY.

ARE YOU DONE? FOR NOW.

THANK YOU. JUSTICE LEWISON.

AND YOU'RE RECOGNIZED, HUTCH.

I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT SOME OF THESE REPAIRS.

LET'S SAY BECAUSE OF NOW, EVERYTHING'S GONE UP.

THE LUMBER AND THE ROOFING.

WHAT IF IT COSTS MORE THAN WHAT'S ON HERE? WE WILL REACH INTO OUR NORMAL BUDGET AND MAKE IT UP.

BUT WHAT WE DO ON A LOT OF THESE LIKE I KNOW THAT CENTRAL HEALTH THAT THERE'S A THE WE'VE GOT A SMALL SECTION OF ROOF ON THIS BUILDING HAS TO BE REPLACED AND I HAVE A QUOTE FOR IT AND THAT QUOTE STILL GOOD.

SO IF YOU ALL APPROVE THIS IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS, I CAN STILL USE THAT QUOTE.

SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CHARGE ME MORE THAN THAT.

IF SOMETHING HAPPENED AND WE HAD TO GO FURTHER OUT, THEN IT'S POSSIBLE THAT COULD GO UP BY 5%, 10%.

THEN WE'D HAVE TO DIG INTO OUR BUDGET, FIND THAT AND FIX IT.

THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT SOMEHOW THERE'S A MIRACLE ON THESE PRICES GO DOWN.

YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE MONEY BACK.

YEAH, I WOULDN'T HOLD MY BREATH ON THAT ONE.

BUT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE LOCK WHEN WE GET A QUOTE, WE USUALLY DO IT FOR 30 TO 45 DAYS.

SO WE HAVE A.

SO WE HAVE THEM LOCKED IN.

WELL, BECAUSE OF THAT HAIL STORM THE OTHER NIGHT, HOW DO WE KNOW THAT SOME OF THESE OTHER BUILDINGS AREN'T AFFECTED NOW? IF IT'S A HAILSTORM, THAT'S INSURANCE.

YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO PICK UP THAT BILL.

WE HAD SOME I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

WE HAD SOME ICE DAMAGE ON THIS BUILDING OVER HERE ON THE PART THAT GREEN ROOF IS ACTUALLY COPPER. IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE.

WE HAD SOME ICE DAMAGE.

TORE SOME OF THE GUTTERS. THE TRIM OFF THE SOFFIT AND ALL THAT.

CALLED THE ROOFING COMPANY OUT.

THEY LOOKED AT IT AND THEY GO, HEY, YOU KNOW, YOU ACTUALLY GOT HAIL DAMAGE ON THIS OTHER PART. WELL, WE'RE NOT ON THAT ROOF A WHOLE LOT.

AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY LEAKS, SO WE WEREN'T AWARE.

CALLED THE INSURANCE COMPANY.

THEY CAME OUT AND THEY GO, HEY, YOU GOT HAIL DAMAGE.

WELL, WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO GET A WHOLE NEW ROOF.

THAT'S GOING TO COST ME $1,000, BUT THAT'S BETTER THAN THE 310,000 THAT THEY WANT TO FIX THE ROOF. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. JUSTICE GREEN ARE YOU STILL DO YOU STILL HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT? OKAY. OH COME ON, MISS CONEY.

ASK ME SOMETHING.

LISTEN CAREFULLY. SO I'LL KNOW WHAT.

JUSTICE KEITH IS RECOGNIZED.

THERE WE ARE. JUSTIN.

JUST CURIOUS. WHAT TYPE OF COMMUNITY NOTIFICATION DO WE HAVE TO DO ON ORDINANCES LIKE THIS. IS THE COMMUNITY AWARE OF THESE PROPOSED PROJECTS OR HOW ARE THEY MADE AWARE.

WE SEND OUT AN EMAIL TO IT'S AN AGENDA.

IT'S A COUNTY OFFICIALS WHO WANT TO BE NOTIFIED.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE PRESS.

OKAY. LEGALLY, YOU HAVE 2 HOURS.

THIS HAS BEEN POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE FOR PROBABLY THE LAST 48 HOURS OR LONGER.

OKAY. SO WE DO THAT WITH ALL AGENDAS.

RIGHT. USUALLY I TRY TO GET THIS STUFF TO YOU LIKE ON A THURSDAY, WE'LL TRY TO GET IT OUT. AND THEN ONCE YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO TO SEE IT, I'LL SEND IT OUT FRIDAY MORNING IN MASS TO EVERYONE ELSE.

BUT IT'S GENERALLY 48 HOURS IN ADVANCE.

WE'LL HAVE AT LEAST POSTED ON THE WEBSITE.

OKAY. SO AND I GUESS SO THIS FOLLOWS MY NEXT QUESTION WOULD FOLLOW THAT BASED ON THIS BEING POSTED, HAVE WE HAD ANYONE CONTACTING THE COUNTY CONCERNING ANY OF THE PROPOSED PROJECTS, ANYTHING? I HAVE HAD NOTHING OTHER THAN THE EMAIL FROM THE GREATER CHAMBER SUPPORTING THE PROJECTS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

I HAD A LADY ANOTHER LADY CONTACT ME THIS MORNING AND SHE JUST SAID, HEY, I WANT TO I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHAT HAVE YOU ALL SPENT ARPA MONEY ON?

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AND I GAVE HER A RUNDOWN OF SOME OF THE STUFF WE'VE DONE.

AND I SAID, NOW, TONIGHT THEY'RE VOTING ON SOME THINGS, AND THIS COULD COME UP.

AND I TOLD HER SOME OF THE PROJECTS.

SHE'S LIKE, OH, THAT'S GREAT. WHEN WILL YOU KNOW? AND I SAID, WELL, IT GOES THROUGH HERE.

IT GOES TO THE QUORUM COURT.

WHEN IS QUORUM COURT, GAVE HER THE DATE.

I'LL CALL YOU THAT NEXT DAY AND YOU CAN TELL ME IF IT PASSED.

OKAY. OKAY.

YOU KNOW, IT'S ACTUALLY IT'S STANDARD WHAT I GET, YOU KNOW.

OKAY. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I YIELD.

THANK YOU. JUSTICE CONEY YOU ARE RECOGNIZED? YEAH. I GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU, HUTCH.

ALL RIGHT. NUMBER EIGHT, THAT COMMUNITY FIRST.

OKAY. YOU KNOW, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IT TAKES TO START IT UP.

RIGHT? HOW MUCH WILL IT TAKE TO MAINTAIN? TO YOU MAINTAIN? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. IF AND PART OF THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE BY A NONPROFIT.

WELL, IT IS GOING TO BE RUN BY A NONPROFIT.

SO THIS IS AN ESTIMATE OF THE MONEY TO GET IT GET THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE.

I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT NONPROFITS THAT THE JUDGES TALKED TO ABOUT TAKING IT OVER, SAME WAY THEY DO WITH THE ONE OUT IN TEXAS.

THEY RUN IT FROM THERE.

THEY DO THE FUNDRAISING, THEY SECURE THE FUNDS, AND THEY RUN IT FROM THERE.

ONCE WE PUT THIS FIRST PHASE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE, IT.

CONGRATULATIONS. IT'S YOURS.

YOU KNOW, YOU RUN IT FROM THERE.

WE OWN THE PROPERTY, BUT THEY MAINTAIN IT.

RUN IT. THEY YEAH, THEY LEASE THE PROPERTY, BUT IT'S THE WAY THEY CAN RUN IT.

AND I GUESS BEFORE I YIELD WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT'S NOT HOMELESS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO PAY A FEE. CORRECT? THEY PAY RENT.

OKAY. THE ONES IN TEXAS PAY THE LOW END IS 220 AND THE HIGH END IS LIKE 340 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE APPARENTLY A TEN BY 20 COST A LITTLE MORE THAN A TEN BY TEN.

BUT I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY DECIDE THAT.

BUT YEAH. OKAY.

THERE'S A STRICT VETTING PROCESS TO.

I'M SORRY. THEY'RE VETTED.

THERE'S AN APPLICATION AND REFERRAL PROCESS.

SO THEY'RE VERY THOROUGH IN THE INDIVIDUALS AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO PAY PAY RENT, EVEN IF IT'S A NOMINAL FEE.

OKAY. SO IT'S NOT TOTALLY NOT HOMELESS AT ALL, REALLY.

WELL, IT'S KIND OF SIMILAR TO YOU REMEMBER THE SPAY NEUTER.

WHEN WE FIRST STARTED SPAY NEUTER, IT WAS FREE.

AND NO ONE WOULD DO IT.

WE HAD NO ONE TAKING IT.

SO THEN WE CHANGED IT UP WHERE THERE'S A FEE, IT'S $10 OR $15, AND IT COULD BE LIKE $40 IF YOU'VE GOT A 200 LB DOG.

NOW WE GET STACKS EVERY WEEK BECAUSE THERE'S SOME OWNERSHIP IN IT.

IF IT'S FREE, THEN IT'S TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE AND NOBODY WANTS TO PARTICIPATE.

ALL RIGHT. YOU KNOW, I GET THE QUESTION, WHAT KIND OF VET YOU'RE USING FOR FREE? YOU'RE NOT TOUCHING MY DOG.

YOU KNOW, WHEN THERE'S THAT OWNERSHIP IN IT, TAKE A LITTLE MORE PRIDE IN IT AND THEY'RE WILLING TO DO IT. OKAY.

I YEAH, THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN JUST MY OPINION, BUT THAT'S THE WAY IT'S WORKED IN THE PAST.

THAT'S A DECENT OPINION.

WELL, OPINIONS VARY, BUT THAT'S MINE ON THAT ONE.

THANK YOU, JUSTICE CONEY, JUSTICE MCCOY.

AND THEN JUSTICE GREEN.

I'LL DEFER TO AFTER JUSTICE GREEN, PLEASE.

OKAY. JUSTICE GREEN YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

I WAS JUST GOING TO MAKE A POINT BECAUSE A LOT OF THE HOMELESS PEOPLE ARE VETERANS.

AND THEY GET CHECKS EVERY MONTH.

SO THEY WOULD BE BE ABLE TO PAY THAT AMOUNT.

YEAH.

IF IT'S A SMALL AMOUNT FROM WHAT THEIR CHECKS WOULD BE.

RIGHT. AND WHAT IT DOES, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING FROM I DIDN'T VISIT THE ONE IN TEXAS, BUT I'VE WATCHED ALL THE DOCUMENTARIES ON IT.

AND I ACTUALLY I'M NOT GOING TO MENTION THEIR NAMES BECAUSE THEY DON'T.

I WAS AT MY FATHER IN LAW'S HOUSE LAST WEEKEND AND HIS NIECE SHOWED UP AND THEY'RE FROM AUSTIN. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT FIRST TIME I MET THEM.

AND SO THEY'RE TALKING.

AND AFTER A LITTLE BIT, I HIJACKED THE CONVERSATION.

I SAID, I GOT SOME QUESTIONS.

OH, YEAH. AND SO I ASKED THEM, HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF THIS PLACE? AND WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT IT? AND NOTHING BUT GOOD STUFF TO SAY.

AND I WAS. SO THEN I TRIED TO GAUGE BECAUSE AUSTIN IS CONSIDERED A VERY LIBERAL TOWN.

YOU KNOW. SO THEN I TRIED TO GAUGE WAS THIS SUCH A GREAT DEAL BECAUSE IT WAS WORKING, IN THEIR OPINION, OR BECAUSE WE JUST THINK THAT'S A GREAT DEAL.

WELL, IT BECOME APPARENT PRETTY QUICK THAT THEY WEREN'T ALL THAT LIBERAL.

BUT THIS PROGRAM DID WORK.

YOU DIDN'T SEE NEGATIVE NEWS OUT OF IT.

YOU DIDN'T SEE A CONSTANT STREAM OF POLICE CARS AND YOU DIDN'T HAVE A BUNCH OF NEGATIVE

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PUBLICITY WITH IT.

WHICH WAS NOT THE CASE WITH THE PROGRAM THE CITY WAS RUNNING.

SO WHEN ALL OF THIS FIRST STARTED, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY I BOUGHT INTO IT 100%.

JUDGE KNOWS THAT AS I'VE STUDIED IT MORE.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD START.

YOU'VE GOT TO START SOMEWHERE.

I THINK IT'S THE BEST PROGRAM OUT HERE.

AND YOU'RE RIGHT, IF A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE, EVEN THE ONES IN TEXAS, GET SOME KIND OF SMALL CHECK AND IT'S NOT ENOUGH FOR THEM TO GO RENT AN APARTMENT DOWNTOWN OR RENT A HOUSE SOMEWHERE OR TO BUY A HOUSE.

BUT THEY CAN'T AFFORD RENT IN THEIR OWN LITTLE PLACE HERE AND BUILD A COMMUNITY.

AND A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE, THAT'S PROBABLY A LOT OF WHAT THEY NEED IS JUST, I NEED A PLACE THAT'S MINE. I NEED A PLACE I CAN STAY.

WE NEED A START.

AND THEY NEED A START.

I NEED A START. SO IT'S THE BEST THING ON THE WHOLE PACKAGE.

TO YOU. TO ME, THIS IS THE BEST THING BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SO MANY HOMELESS PEOPLE HERE.

AND THEY STILL MAY BE HOMELESS BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT TO HAVE MONEY.

HOW ABOUT THAT? YEP.

[INAUDIBLE] OKAY.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? JUSTICE MCCOY.

YES. SO I IMAGINE MOST OF YOU ALL GOT THE NICE EXCLUSIVE PACKET WE GOT FROM THE JUDGE'S OFFICE. I WAS EXPOSED.

EXCUSE ME. I WAS EXPOSED TO THIS ABOUT TWO DAYS AGO, ROUGHLY BEFORE THE AGENDA MEETING, WHICH EXPLAINS MY TARDINESS TO THE MEETING.

AND I WILL CONCUR WITH JUSTICE GREEN THAT THE ONE THING THAT I WAS MOST EXCITED ABOUT WAS THIS. AND I'VE GOT AN EMPLOYEE OF MINE, LONG STORY SHORT, WHO HAS SUFFERED WITH HOMELESSNESS. IT'S BEEN VERY DIFFICULT TO TRY TO HELP HIM TO GET A PLACE TO BE AT NIGHT I T WOULD MAKE HIS LIFE A LOT EASIER.

AND I'M SURE THAT'S THE SAME WITH A LOT OF THESE OTHER UNSHELTERED NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS.

BUT GIVEN THAT I'VE ONLY HAD ABOUT TWO DAYS TO KIND OF SLEEP ON THIS AND THINK ABOUT IT, I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR ME TO MAKE DECISIONS.

THE JUDGE HAS OFFERED ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS SO FAR.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS UNTIL APRIL 21ST, WHICH WAS OUR LAST SCHEDULED BUDGET MEETING, I BELIEVE, ACCORDING TO THIS PACKET.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S THE LAST SCHEDULED, CORRECT.

YEAH, THAT'S A PROPER MOTION.

IT WOULD REQUIRE A SECOND.

CAN I ASK, ARE YOU WANTING TO POSTPONE THE WHOLE THING OR JUST THAT ONE PROJECT? THE WHOLE THING.

YEAH. I BELIEVE IF I UNDERSTOOD THE JUDGE CORRECTLY, HE DIDN'T WANT TO BREAK THINGS UP.

WELL, AT THIS POINT, WE HAVE A MOTION.

I'M ASSUMING THAT WAS A MOTION AND IT DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.

WELL. HE INTERRUPTED ME.

WELL, NO, NO. YOU MADE YOUR MOTION.

YOU JUST DIDN'T GET ANY BACK UP.

YOU DIDN'T GET A SECOND. GET 2 SECONDS FOR MAYBE FOR A SECOND TO BE DONE.

NO, WE APPRECIATE IT. THAT'S A NICE LITTLE PAUSE.

I MEAN, IT REALLY WAS A GOOD, GOOD, VALIANT EFFORT OKAY. I AM GOING TO ALLOW IF SOMEONE FROM THE FLOOR BECAUSE I DON'T THINK DID YOU FILL OUT A FORM OR ANYTHING TO REQUEST TO SPEAK TONIGHT JUSTICE BLACKWOOD? SPECTATOR.

DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK? OH, OKAY.

OKAY. OKAY.

WELL, THERE WOULD BE NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

JUSTIN, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? YES, MA'AM. ITEM 22-I-24.

FIVE AYES, ONE ABSTENTION.

THE MOTION PASSES.

THIS WILL GO TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT FOR FINAL APPROVAL.

JUSTICE MCCOY, YOU WILL DEFINITELY HAVE PLENTY ENOUGH TIME TO LOOK OVER THIS REPORT BEFORE OUR FINAL VOTE.

I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE US.

CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN? OKAY, WE ARE ADJOURNED.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER. ARE THERE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS OR PUBLIC COMMENT? I GUESS THERE'S NEITHER.

I HAVE RECEIVED NO PUBLIC COMMENTS MADAM CHAIR.

ALL RIGHT, WE ARE DISMISSED.

THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.