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GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.

WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED AND BEGAN OUR THIRD BUDGET, MID THIRD BUDGET, MID SPRING BUDGET MEETING UNDERWAY.

JUSTIN, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? YES.

. SIX MEMBERS PRESENT.

MADAM CHAIR, YOU HAVE A QUORUM.

OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO NOW MOVE ON TO GETTING APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

[3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

SO MOVED. SECOND.

THOSE LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING I IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR THOSE OPPOSED MOVING ON TO NEW BUSINESS.

[4. NEW BUSINESS:]

SO, MADAM CHAIR, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS, WE'RE GOING TO PULL BACK THE BUDGET CONTROL PROPOSAL AT THIS TIME.

I'VE BEEN CONTACTED BY SOME GP'S THAT HAVE SOME QUESTIONS THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE ANSWERED.

SO IF WE COULD PULL THAT BACK AND LEAVE IT ON THE CALENDAR FOR OUR NEXT MEETING.

ALL RIGHT. WE DON'T HAVE TO.

NO, I MEAN, JUST IF THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS TO THAT, I'M ASSUMING.

OKAY. OKAY.

AND THEN THE CENTERS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY PRESENTATION, HE WILL BE JUMPING ON A ZOOM HERE AT 6:00.

SO IF WE JUST WANT TO PASS OVER THAT AND JUMP INTO THE UPGRADES, WE CAN GET AS FAR AS WE CAN UNTIL THE ZOOM MEETING STARTS IF THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS.

OKAY. THE FIRST ON OUR AGENDA IS OUR CIRCUIT CLERK DEPARTMENT 101.

I MEAN, COME ON. YES, MA'AM.

GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON.

TERRY HOLLINGSWORTH CIRCUIT CLERK'S OFFICE.

AND WE ARE ASKING FOR UPGRADES FOR TWO VOTER REGISTRATION CLERKS.

TO BECOME GIS TECHNICIANS AND TWO IMAGING CLERKS TO BECOME COURT CLERKS.

OKAY. JUST TO ESTABLISH YOUR RECOGNIZED.

THANK YOU, MS. MASSEY, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SEND THESE TWO ITEMS FOR BUDGET 101 TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT WITH A DUE PASS RECOMMENDATION.

BUT MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED.

IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTION OR DISCUSSION? IF THERE BE NONE. JUSTIN, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

YES, MA'AM.

WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE APPRECIATE YOU ALL.

THIS WAS CERTAINLY HELPED OUR OFFICE FLOW SMOOTHLY.

THANK YOU. THIS WILL GO TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT FOR FINAL APPROVAL.

THANK YOU. NOW WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC DEFENDER DEPARTMENT 416.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS ANDREA RUPEL AND I'M THE CHIEF INVESTIGATOR WITH THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE.

AND OUR OFFICE IS REQUESTING FOR A NEW INVESTIGATOR POSITION.

JUSTICE STOWERS.

YES, MA'AM. CAN YOU JUST ENLIGHTEN US AND GIVE US SOME SOME BACKGROUND AS TO THE NEED IN YOUR OFFICE FOR THIS NEW POSITION? WE ARE EXPERIENCING AN UNSPEAKABLE AMOUNT OF CASELOAD RIGHT NOW.

IT'S UNREAL HOW MUCH HOW MANY CASES WE HAVE.

MYSELF. I HAVE OVER 80 CASES.

ANOTHER INVESTIGATOR HAS OVER 80 CASES.

AND THOSE ALSO CONSIST OF VERY FELONY CASES, WHICH ARE LIKE THE MOST SEVERE CASES, AND THEY TAKE A LOT OF TIME AND ATTENTION.

AND OUR ATTORNEYS REALLY ARE LOADED DOWN WITH THEIR CASE WORK AND HAVING AN INVESTIGATOR THERE.

HELPS THEM GET THROUGH THE PROCESSES AND ALL THE INFORMATION THEY NEED TO GET THEIR CASE GOING.

AND HOW MANY INVESTIGATORS, INCLUDING YOURSELF, DOES THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE HAVE? WE HAVE THREE. WELL, INCLUDING MYSELF.

YES, THREE. SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SEND THE REQUEST FOR BUDGET FOR 16 TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT WITH A DUE PASS RECOMMENDATION.

SECOND THAT.

MOVED AND PROPERLY SECOND, WE STILL HAVE SOME LIGHTS ON, SO I'M ASSUMING WE HAVE QUESTIONS.

MOVING ON TO THAT, TWO MORE QUESTIONS.

I SEE JUSTICE CURRY'S LIGHT IS ON, BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S JUSTICE MCMULLEN OH NO, DONNA, I WAS GOING TO SIMPLY MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE IT TO THE

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FULL QUORUM COURT THAT'S WHY MY LIGHT WAS ON.

OKAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THERE BE NONE? JUSTIN, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? YES, MA'AM.

THANK YOU FOR COMING. THIS WILL GO TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT FOR FINAL APPROVAL AND.

THE RECORD, I GUESS, IS ALREADY REFLECTING THAT.

JUSTICE GREEN HAS JOINED US.

YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM OR DEPARTMENT 121 HUMAN RESOURCES.

UM. GOOD EVENING, CHASTITY CYPERUS PULASKI COUNTY, H-R DIRECTOR.

SO WE HAVE. EXCUSE ME.

WE'VE GOT THREE POSITIONS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT ASKING FOR UPGRADES ON EACH ONE.

THE HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR POSITION, THE COMPENSATION AND TRAINING MANAGER.

THAT ONE IS AN UPGRADE WITH A TITLE CHANGE AS WELL.

AND THEN COMPENSATION AND TRAINING ANALYST POSITION.

JUSTICE STOWERS. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. SO, MISS CYPRUS, I KNOW ONE OF THE HARDEST THINGS TO DO IS TO GET UP AND TALK ABOUT YOURSELF, RIGHT? BUT I'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH INTO WHAT HUMAN RESOURCE DIRECTORS MAKE OF AN ORGANIZATION.

THE SIZE AND SCOPE OF OURS.

APPROXIMATELY 1300 EMPLOYEES.

AND THAT AVERAGE IS CLOSER TO 150.

SO I FEEL THAT EVEN WITH THIS UPGRADE WOULD BRING YOU TO AROUND 115.

AND AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO PERSONALIZE IT, BUT THE DIRECTOR OF HR, IF YOU LEFT AND WERE GONE TOMORROW, HOPE THAT DON'T HAPPEN BUT MY POINT BEING THAT WE ARE STILL YOU'RE STILL UNDER WHAT THE TYPICAL HR DIRECTOR FOR AN ORGANIZATION OUR SIZE IS COMPENSATED FOR.

I THINK YOUR OTHER UPGRADES AND TITLE CHANGES ALSO MAKE SENSE.

SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SEND THE REQUEST FOR BUDGET 121 TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT WITH THE DUE PASS RECOMMENDATION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JUSTICE STOWERS.

IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY. SECOND, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF THERE BE NONE. JUSTIN, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

SIX AYES.

ZERO, NAYS, ONE ABSTENTION.

THANK YOU. THIS WILL GO TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT COURT FOR FINAL APPROVAL.

WE ARE NOW DOWN TO ANIMAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT 446.

OH. GOOD EVENING.

I'M KATHY BOTSFORD WITH THE ANIMAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

CAN YOU PULL THE MIC DOWN? YES, SURE CAN. WE'RE ASKING FOR AN UPGRADE TO THE ANIMAL SERVICE POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE.

AS YOU KNOW NOW WE HAVE A HOLDING FACILITY AND WE PICK UP SICK, INJURED AND VICIOUS ANIMALS.

THIS IS ADDED TO THE DUTIES OF THE LEAD ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER AND THE ANIMAL SERVICES OFFICERS, TOO.

THEY HAVE RESPONSIBILITIES OF A KENNEL TECH NOW.

THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE SICK ANIMALS WHEN THEY COME IN AND TAKE CARE OF THEM.

IF WE HOLD ANIMALS FOR COURT, WHICH WE DO IN THE CASE, A DOG IS DEEMED VICIOUS AND WE HAVE TO HOLD THAT DOG FOR COURT, THEY HAVE TO CARE FOR THOSE ANIMALS AND THEY HAVE TO ADDITIONAL TRAINING AND ADDITIONAL CERTIFICATIONS THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE NOW.

SO IT'S ADDED TO THEIR DUTIES.

JUST COME HERE. AND I BELIEVE THIS WENT THROUGH HR AND THE JOHANNSEN STUDY LOOKED AT IT AND AGREED THAT THEY SHOULD COME UP ONE GRADE EACH FOR THE LEAD ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER AND THE ANIMAL SERVICES OFFICER.

JUSTICE TOWERS, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

THANK YOU, MR. MASSEY. SO JP'S LIKE MS. GREEN AND MYSELF, REPRESENT DISTRICTS THAT ARE PRETTY UNINCORPORATED, WHICH THAT IS THE AREA THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT SERVICES.

I KNOW THAT ONE OF THE CHALLENGES YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT BEFORE IS, A, BECAUSE OF THE PAY BEING ABLE TO KEEP ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS, BUT THEN ALSO JUST BEING ABLE TO RECRUIT THEM ONCE ONCE WE ARE ABLE TO HIRE THEM.

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SO I CERTAINLY SEE THE NEED HERE FOR THESE.

I CALL YOU OFTEN OR EMAIL YOU OFTEN ABOUT DOG COMPLAINTS.

THE NUMBER TWO COMPLAINT AFTER MY TRASH DIDN'T GET PICKED UP ON TIME OR ON THE RIGHT DAY.

AND SO I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SEND 446 REQUEST ON TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT WITH THE DUE PASS RECOMMENDATION.

BUT MOVED AND PROPERLY. SECOND, WE ARE NOW GOING TO CONTINUE ON WITH QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, JUSTICE STOWERS.

JUSTICE ELLIOTT YOU RECOGNIZED? YES, MA'AM. ON YOUR SCHEDULING? ARE YOU ALL OPEN ALL DAY ON SATURDAYS OR NOT? NO, SIR. WE'RE OPEN JUST DURING THE WEEK? YES, SIR. MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

WE DO HAVE AN ON CALL OFFICER FOR EMERGENCY SITUATIONS.

YES, SIR. I'VE HAD A FEW CALLS ON SATURDAY, ANYONE.

WELL, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU.

WHAT MR. SARRIS HAS SAID IS TRUE.

WE'VE JUST NOW GOT BACK UP TO STAFFING.

WE JUST HIRED A THIRD OFFICER AND HE'S IN TRAINING RIGHT NOW.

SO WE'VE BEEN EXTREMELY SHORTHANDED.

WE'VE HAD ONE OFFICER FOR QUITE.

THANK YOU. YES, SIR.

THANK YOU, JUSTICE ELLIOTT.

JUSTICE MCMULLEN YOU RECOGNIZED.

HOW MANY OFFICERS DO YOU HAVE ALTOGETHER? THREE. THERE'S THE LEAD ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER AND THEN TWO ANIMAL SERVICES OFFICERS THAT ARE HIS ASSISTANTS.

OKAY, SO THAT THIRD ONE IS NEW FOR YOU.

THAT'S YOU SAID WE NOW HAVE.

NO WE'VE HAD THE POSITION.

WE JUST HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FILL IT.

WE HAD OFFICERS, WE HAD 2 OR 3 OFFICERS THAT WERE THERE FOR A WHILE AND THEN THEY MOVED ON.

SO IT'S BEEN VACANT FOR A WHILE AND WE JUST WERE ABLE TO FILL THAT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

SO IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THERE.

WE JUST HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO.

SO YOU NEED ANOTHER ONE, ACTUALLY, DON'T YOU? WELL. 600MI².

YEAH. DID YOU CONSIDER INSTEAD MAYBE TRYING TO HIRE ANOTHER ONE AS OPPOSED TO THE INCREASE IN SALARY OR GRADE? WELL, NO, MA'AM, BECAUSE WE ADDED TO THE DUTIES OF THE CURRENT OFFICERS THAT ARE THERE.

WE ADDED. ADDITIONAL DUTIES TO WHAT THEY WERE WHAT THEY'RE DOING NOW.

SO WE'RE GOING TO WORK THEM HARDER.

ALL RIGHT. IT'S NO NEED OF ME CONTINUING THIS DISCOURSE WITH YOU JUST FOR THE SAKE OF DISCOURSE.

THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM.

THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF THERE BE NONE, JUSTIN, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

SEVEN AYES.

THIS WILL GO TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT FOR FINAL APPROVAL.

THANK YOU FOR COMING.

MADAM CHAIR, I THINK WE HAVE TOM HERE FROM THE CENTERS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY MANAGEMENT.

TOM, CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY, WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW.

SO OKAY.

IF IT PLEASES THE COMMITTEE, WE'LL HEAR FROM TOM.

TOM, IF YOU CAN INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND TELL US A LITTLE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON.

OKAY. I'M TOM WISER.

I'M THE DIRECTOR FOR THE CENTER FOR PUBLIC SAFETY MANAGEMENT.

UH, I'D LIKE TO.

DON'T SAY SEE EVERYBODY'S FACES, BUT, UH.

UM, I'VE BEEN THE DIRECTOR HERE AT THE CENTER SINCE 2012.

UM, WE WERE CREATED BY THE INTERNATIONAL CITY MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION BACK IN 2008 TO WORK WITH COMMUNITIES ON POLICE, FIRE, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DISPATCH.

AND WE'VE DONE ABOUT 400 AND OR ABOUT 460 PROJECTS NOW ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND 46 STATES AND CANADA. AND WE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR COUNTY, UH, AND WE ARE HOPEFULLY NEARING THE KIND OF CONCLUSION OF IT.

UH, IT'S BEEN A, UM.

CHALLENGING PROJECT, I GUESS, TO KIND OF GET RIGHT TO THE CHASE.

WE'VE GOTTEN THE DATA FINALLY CLEANED AND RECORDED.

WE ENCOUNTERED A NUMBER OF PROBLEMS GETTING THE DATA OUT OF INTEGRATED DISPARATE SYSTEM.

DEPARTMENT HAS WORKED EXTREMELY WELL WITH US TO TRY AND RESOLVE CONFLICT IN THE CAD SYSTEM IN DIFFERENT FILES.

LOOKED AT OVERALL ABOUT 26,615 EVENTS AND WE'VE NOW CREATED A GRAPH DATA

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REPORT WHICH HAS BEEN SENT AND I BELIEVE ACCEPTED BY THE COUNTY.

AND SO NOW WE WILL HAVE THE ON THE GROUND TEAM COME IN.

AND THE REASON WE DO THAT IS THAT DATA IS ONE SOURCE.

WE HAVE AN OPERATIONS TEAM THAT COMES IN AND ALL THE OTHER FACETS OF THE AND THEN PUTS TOGETHER.

BUT IT'S CRITICAL THAT THE DATA PIECE BE DONE FIRST BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO FORM THE BASIS MANY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND IT ALLOWS YOU TO MEASURE WHAT CHANGES THAT ARE TAKING POSITIVE, NEGATIVE AND THAT'S KIND OF IT IN A QUICK DUSTIN, WOULD YOU WANT ME GO THROUGH ANYTHING ELSE? YEAH.

TOM, YOU'RE CUTTING OUT ON SOME OF THOSE RESPONSES, SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S FINE.

THERE MAY BE SOME QUESTIONS IF THERE'S OBVIOUSLY MR MADAM CHAIR, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS WOULD HAVE AS FAR AS WHAT'S THE LONG TERM OUTLOOK PROJECTIONS? WILL PROJECTIONS BE A PART OF THE STUDY? WHATEVER YOU GUYS WANT TO ASK.

TOM IS HERE AND HE'S AVAILABLE.

WE DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

I FIGURED JUSTICE STOWERS YOU RECOGNIZED MY QUESTION TO BE VERY BRIEF.

THANK YOU, SIR, FOR THAT EXPLANATION.

WHEN DO WE ANTICIPATE THAT WE WILL HAVE THE COMPLETE AND COMPREHENSIVE REPORT BACK? THE TEAM IS DUE TO BE IN BACK IN THE COUNTY THE FIRST WEEK OF MAY AND THEN USUALLY WITHIN 30 DAYS THEY HAVE THE REPORT DONE.

WE'RE TRYING. AND THEN BACK TO YOU SO THAT YOU HAVE.

SO WE WOULD WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT JUNE THEN, CORRECT? THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE BY THE TIME WE BECAUSE WE ALWAYS SEND IT TO THE AGENCY AGAIN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING REFERRED TO AS.

AND SO THEY HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING.

AS LONG AS WE CAN TURN IT AROUND QUICKLY, WE.

YEAH, WE HAVEN'T DONE THIS FOR 30 YEARS, SO I THINK IT'S WORTHWHILE TO TAKE OUR TIME AND GET IT RIGHT.

I YIELD. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, JUSTICE STOWERS.

JUSTICE MCMULLEN. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

YES. THANK YOU. LISTEN, I.

FIRST OF ALL, HATE TO SIT HERE, HATE TO BE IN ANYTHING AND NOT REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON.

I AM PRETTY SURE THAT YOU DID PROVIDE SOME VERY MEANINGFUL INFORMATION.

NEVERTHELESS, THERE WERE BLANKS THERE.

IN OTHER WORDS, WHERE WE COULD NOT QUITE HEAR YOU.

AT LEAST I COULD NOT.

SO THEREFORE I REALLY MISSED THE MAIN.

FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW JUST EXACTLY WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE PRESENTATION.

SO BECAUSE WHEN YOU SPEAK IT MRS, I'M ASKING MAYBE JUSTIN OR SOMEONE TO JUST SORT OF SUMMARIZE THIS FOR THOSE OF US WHO.

SO I KNOW YOU WEREN'T ON THE BUDGET COMMITTEE WHEN THIS WAS REQUISITIONED AND IT HAS TAKEN A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO GET IT DONE.

OBVIOUSLY, AS TOM NOTED, THERE WERE SOME ISSUES WITH THE SOFTWARE BEING ABLE TO EXTRACT THE DATA THAT WAS A RESULT OF THE ZERKER SYSTEM BEING A LITTLE BIT DATED AND SOME PROBLEMS WITH THAT. AND SOFTWARE.

WHAT WHICH SOFTWARE? SHERIFF'S SOFTWARE THAT YOU HAVE PROVIDED.

THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I NEED TO HEAR YOU SAY THAT.

YEAH. OKAY. SO THERE WAS SOME PROBLEMS WITH WITH PULLING THAT OUT, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

BUT I FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT SINCE THIS HAS BEEN ONGOING AND THERE WERE SOME DELAYS THAT TOM COME IN, AT LEAST INTRODUCE HIMSELF, KIND OF EXPLAIN TO YOU WHAT THEIR POINT IS, WHERE THEY'RE MOVING TOWARDS.

AND I WILL ADD TO AS WELL, I BELIEVE, TOM, YOU GUYS DID AN ASSESSMENT FOR THE CITY OF LITTLE ROCK ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, CORRECT? WE YES, WE DID A PROJECT FOR LITTLE ROCK AND THEN ALSO YOUR COUNTY AS WELL.

RIGHT. AND SO THEY ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE COMMUNITY TO AN EXTENT.

AND AGAIN, MISS MCMULLEN, WHEN THEY WERE CHOSEN, THERE WAS A SELECTION COMMITTEE THAT CONSISTED OF REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THE COUNTY AS WELL.

SO THEIR BODY OF WORK HAS REPUTABLE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

IT'S REPUTABLE AROUND THE COUNTRY.

BUT AGAIN, WITH THE DELAYS THAT HAVE OCCURRED WITH THE STUDY, THROUGH NO FAULT OF ANYONE ON THIS, I MEAN, IT WASN'T THE SHERIFF'S FAULT THAT THEIR SOFTWARE WAS NOT WORKING.

WELL, WE'VE ADDRESSED THAT, AND IT'S NOT THE FAULT OF TRYING ON THEIR PART.

SO, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THIS STUDY HAS BEEN REQUISITIONED.

IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, MAKE CONTACT AND SHOW YOU THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A HARD DEADLINE ON WHEN THIS WAS GOING TO BE DONE.

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SO WE ANTICIPATE THIS WILL BE DONE PROBABLY WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THAT ASSESSMENT AND THE PROJECTIONS THAT THEY WILL PROVIDE THE BUDGET COMMITTEE SO YOU GUYS CAN PROPERLY STAFF THE SHERIFF AND MAKE SURE THAT HE HAS EVERYTHING THAT HE NEEDS, NOT ONLY NOW BUT FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS.

OKAY. SO THIS IS PRIMARILY ABOUT THE NEED FOR SOFTWARE, AM I CORRECT? NO. YOU'VE ADDRESSED THE SOFTWARE ISSUE.

THERE WAS AN APPROPRIATION THAT THEY REQUESTED TO UPGRADE THEIR SOFTWARE SYSTEM, AND THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED IN PREVIOUS ORDINANCES.

SO HOPEFULLY WITH THAT, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GET THE PACKAGE OF SOFTWARE THAT THEY WANT THAT THEY CHOOSE AS OPPOSED TO INHERITING A SOFTWARE PACKAGE.

WHICH THEY DID.

SO. THAT'S IT.

I MEAN, AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS HAD, YOU KNOW, PUT EYES ON HIM.

HE CAN PUT EYES ON YOU TO A CERTAIN DEGREE.

AND IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, TOM.

OKAY, I WILL LOG OFF AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO.

I THINK THERE'S ONE MORE QUESTION.

TOM. HOLD ON, BUDDY. OKAY, JUST ONE MOMENT.

WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS UNDERSTANDING WHAT THIS WHAT WE'RE WHAT HE HIS PRESENTATION WAS ABOUT.

AND IT'S IN REGARDS TO HOW WE FUND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN REGARDS TO HIS EMPLOYEES STAFFING IN REGARDS TO PUBLIC SAFETY.

WHAT ARE THE NEEDS OF THE COUNTY.

SO HE DIDN'T THEY'RE DOING A STUDY OF THAT AND THEY'RE GOING TO REPORT TO US.

THAT WAY WE WILL KNOW HOW TO STAFF THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IN REGARDS TO SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES AND THINGS.

I REMEMBER A REQUEST THAT WAS MADE FOR EXTRA STAFF.

YES, BUT WE REQUESTED A STUDY TO BE DONE SO THAT WE WOULD KNOW.

WE REQUESTED A STUDY AND I REMEMBER MR STOWERS DID REQUEST THAT WE DO THE STUDY.

A QUESTION FOR TOM.

I'M SORRY. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR TOM REGARDING THAT? YES. NO, EXCEPT FOR THAT I DO UNDERSTAND.

HE SAID PERHAPS IN THE NEXT, WHAT, 30 DAYS WE'LL HAVE AN OUTCOME AS TO WHETHER OR NOT, I GUESS BASICALLY TO ADDRESS THE NEED FOR AND I WOULD SAY NOT JUST DEPUTIES OR WHATEVER, NOT JUST IMMEDIATE NEEDS BUT ALSO LONG TERM NEEDS.

MHM. ALL RIGHT.

THE ONLY QUESTION I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IS WHAT DOES IT LOOKING LIKE NOW.

IS THAT A FAIR QUESTION.

TOM, YOU WANT TO FIELD THAT? SURE. RIGHT NOW.

YOU KNOW, WE USUALLY USE A I HOPE THIS IS COMING IN CLEAR.

IT IS ACTUALLY IN A HOTEL RIGHT NOW IN OHIO.

BUT ONE OF THE THE KIND OF BENCHMARKS THAT WE USE IN LOOKING AT STAFFING IS THAT 60% IS ASSIGNED TO PATROL AND 60% OF THEIR TIME IS ENCUMBERED.

NO MORE THAN 60%.

ONCE YOU GET ABOVE 60%, OFFICERS TEND TO BE MORE INTO A REACTIVE MODE VERSUS PROACTIVE.

AND SO WE TRY AND MATCH THE STAFFING UP TO THAT 60%.

RIGHT NOW YOU'RE OPERATING UNDER THAT NUMBER.

BUT THERE ARE SOME ISSUES THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, ESPECIALLY IN CRIME.

AND THEN AS YOU LOOK AT STAFFING, IT DOES PROJECT TO IMPROVE PRODUCTIVITY AND IMPROVE CLEARANCE OF CASES, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.

WOULD THEY BE IN THE PATROL AREA OR SHOULD THEY BE MORE IN THE DETECTIVE? WE'RE DOING A LOT OF THINGS RIGHT AND NOW GETTING THOSE TWO IN THOSE TWO AREAS RIGHT.

WE'LL BE WITH THE TEAM KIND OF SAY, OKAY, AND THOSE AREAS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THERE, I MEAN, THAT YOU ADDRESS 60% PATROL AND 60% AND WHAT ELSE? 60% OF THEIR TIME IS ENCUMBERED, MEANING IN CALLS FOR SERVICE OR WORKLOAD THAT YOU TRY AND KEEP ABOUT 40% OF THEIR TIME FREE AND THAT ALLOWS THEM TO BE PROACTIVE, DOING COMMUNITY POLICING, GOING OUT AND REALLY GETTING INTO PREVENTING CRIME VERSUS JUST REACTING TO CALLS FOR SERVICE.

AND SO WE TRY AND BALANCE THE WORKLOAD AND STAFFING OUT.

AND SO THE DATA IS CRITICAL TO DOING THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO CALCULATE HOW MUCH WORKLOAD IS THE DEPARTMENT UNDERTAKING NOW.

RIGHT NOW IT'S BELOW THAT 60% LEVEL.

BUT AS I NOTED THERE, A COUPLE OF ISSUES WITH LOOKING AT CLEARANCE RATES ON MAJOR CRIMES, THAT TYPE OF THING.

AND THOSE TEND TO TAKE MORE IN DETECTIVE AGENCY, WHICH DOESN'T COME OUT OF THE CAD SYSTEM.

THAT'S WHERE OUR TEAM WILL ACTUALLY BE LOOKING AT REPORTS, MEETING WITH THE DETECTIVE UNIT, IDENTIFYING WHAT IMPROVEMENTS COULD BE MADE THERE.

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BUT OVERALL, YOUR PATROL IS PRETTY WELL POSITIONED.

UM, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF PINCH POINTS THAT WE'RE DRILLING DOWN IN TO SEE.

IS IT A DISPATCH ISSUE? IS IT A SHIFT CHANGE ISSUE? BECAUSE BOTH OF THOSE CAN HAVE AN IMPACT BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO BE LIKE TWO POINTS IN THE DAY THAT YOU APPROACH THAT 60, 60%, BUT YOU DON'T CROSS.

SO THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS, IS THAT RIGHT NOW IT APPEARS THE PATROL IS PROBABLY STAFFED.

BUT WHETHER THOSE OTHER UNITS, DETECTIVE AND ANCILLARY UNITS, BECAUSE WE ASKED TO LOOK AT ALL OF THE DEPARTMENT, THOSE PROPERLY STAFFED AND THAT REALLY WILL BE WITH THE GROUND.

THANK YOU.

GOOD QUESTION. THANK YOU.

JUSTICE MCMULLEN.

JUSTICE STOWERS. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

JUST VERY BRIEF AS THE JP THAT REQUESTED THE STUDY.

THE CRUX OF IT WAS THAT THE SHERIFF HAD ASKED FOR 26 NEW ENFORCEMENT DEPUTIES, AND IT HAD BEEN 30 YEARS SINCE WE HAD DONE AN EVALUATION OF THAT.

SO I THOUGHT IN THIS BODY AGREED THAT IT WOULD BE PRUDENT FOR US TO PUT THAT OUT AFTER 30 YEARS TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED, WHERE WE NEED IT, HOW WE NEED IT, SO WE CAN BEST SUPPORT THE SHERIFF AND HIS MISSION TO PROTECT OUR CONSTITUENTS IN THE UNINCORPORATED PARTS OF THE COUNTY.

I YIELD. NO.

THANK YOU, JUSTICE STOWERS.

SEEING NONE. WE ARE DONE.

TOM, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND WE WILL HEAR BACK FROM YOU GUYS HOPEFULLY VERY SOON AND I WILL BE CALLING YOU.

DON'T WORRY. OKAY.

THANK YOU, JUSTIN. APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. BYE.

OKAY, NOW WE ARE BACK TO OUR REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING.

NEXT UP IS DETENTION FACILITY MEDICAL DEPARTMENT 450.

AND I DON'T KNOW. WE CAN YOU CAN WE CAN HEAR AND SHERIFF DETENTION DEPARTMENT FOR 18 WE CAN PUT THOSE TWO TOGETHER UNLESS WELL THE DETENTION MEDICAL IS GOING TO BE A STANDALONE.

WE WANT TO GET THIS OUT OF THE WAY AND POSSIBLY GET IT IN FRONT OF THE QUORUM COURT THIS MONTH.

OKAY. SO THIS WILL BE A STANDALONE.

SO THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE ITEM 23 I 27 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 22 OH 45 2023 ANNUAL BUDGET PULASKI COUNTY ARKANSAS TO APPROPRIATE ADDITIONAL GENERAL FUNDS FOR THE DETENTION FACILITY MEDICAL DEPARTMENT.

AND. OH, I'M SORRY.

I GUESS I NEED TO RECOGNIZE SOMEONE.

JUSTICE LEWISON YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

I MOVE THAT WE SEND IT TO THE.

I MOVED IMPROPERLY. SECOND.

JUSTICE STOWERS YOU RECOGNIZED? YES. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

SHERIFF, EITHER YOURSELF OR ONE OF YOUR LIEUTENANTS OR CHIEF DEPUTIES.

THANK YOU, SIR.

SO HOW MUCH IS THE CONTRACT TODAY BEFORE THE ADDITIONAL 2.2 MILLION INCREASE? UM, LET ME PULL THAT OVER THE CONTRACT.

FROM THIS CONTRACT WAS SIGNED.

BY THE COUNTY JUDGE HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND SIGNED.

SO THIS WAS A DECREASE OR A ASKING FOR AN INCREASE OF $2 MILLION MORE.

I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT FIGURE IN FRONT OF ME.

THAT'S FINE. SO IT WOULD BE AN AMENDMENT? YES, IT'S AN AMENDMENT TO THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT.

THE WE WENT THROUGH A NEW CONTRACT BID PROPOSAL LAST YEAR AND THE COMPANY WAS SELECTED.

AND IT'S MORE THAN WHAT WAS BUDGETED.

IT WASN'T PUT INTO THE 2023 BUDGET BECAUSE THE CONTRACT HADN'T BEEN SIGNED PRIOR TO THE BUDGET BEING APPROVAL AND APPROVED IN NOVEMBER.

OKAY. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE CONTRACT, THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT, I THINK YOU SAID WAS 3 OR 4 YEARS AGO.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THE ORIGINAL.

OKAY. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT HAS ESCALATORS ANNUALLY BUILT INTO IT? YES. AND SO MY QUESTION IS TWOFOLD ARE THOSE ANNUAL INCREASES OR ESCALATORS OR IS THERE ANY KIND OF QUALITY OR PERFORMANCE? THERE'S TIED TO THAT ESCALATOR.

WELL, THERE'S THE ADDITIONAL TO THIS CONTRACT IS DEALING WITH ADDITIONAL MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES IN THE FACILITY.

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AND SO THERE'S ADDITIONAL STAFFING REQUIRED, MORE STAFFING IN THE INTAKE AREA SO THAT WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN THAT THEY HAVE ADEQUATE STAFFING TO EVALUATE THOSE DETAINEES COMING INTO THE FACILITY.

AND THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT PART OF THIS INCREASE.

SO. RIGHT. SO I'M HEARING YOU NOW AND BETTER UNDERSTANDING AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THE MAJORITY OF THIS INCREASE IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO RAMP UP OUR MENTAL HEALTH, WHICH I YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE THAT MENTAL HEALTH IS WE'VE COME TO A PLACE IN A SOCIETY THAT WE REALIZE IS JUST AS IMPORTANT AS PHYSICAL, IF NOT MORE IMPORTANT THAN PHYSICAL HEALTH.

IT CAN ACTUALLY DRIVE PHYSICAL HEALTH.

SO. LOOKING AT MY QUESTIONS HERE.

I THINK THAT'S IT.

SHERIFF, I AM GOING TO SUPPORT YOU ON THIS ITEM THIS EVENING, AND I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO ANSWER MY QUESTIONS.

I YIELD. THANK YOU, JUSTICE STOWERS.

WILL THERE BE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF THERE BE NONE.

JUSTIN, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

SEVEN ZERO.

THANK YOU. THIS WILL GO TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT FOR.

I'M SORRY. SIX ZERO.

OKAY. UM, I GUESS.

SURE. IF YOU COULD HAVE REMAINED STANDING BECAUSE WE'RE NOW TO DEPARTMENT 418 FOR SERGEANT POSITION UPGRADE.

ON THESE UPGRADES.

THIS WAS THROUGH THE JOHANNSEN STUDY, AND H.R.

MADE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THESE POSITIONS BE UPGRADED FROM A 18 TO A C-119.

WHILE WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING RIGHT NOW IS THE TENSION POSITION FOR SERGEANT, IT ALSO IS THE SAME IMPACT FOR THE THOSE 39 SERGEANTS IN DETENTION AND THEN THOSE 20 SERGEANTS IN ENFORCEMENT.

OKAY, SO JUSTICE STOWERS YOU RECOGNIZED.

YES, SIR, I WOULD.

YES, MA'AM. EXCUSE ME.

EXCUSE ME. YOU ARE THE MATRIARCH OF THE QUORUM COURT.

THE. I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE UPGRADES IN DEPARTMENT 418 AND SEND THAT TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT WITH THE DUE PASS RECOMMENDATION. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED PROPERLY.

SECOND, WE ARE NOW GOING TO CONTINUE WITH QUESTIONING.

THANK YOU. JUSTICE STOWERS.

JUSTICE ELLIOTT YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

YES, SIR. HOW MANY SERGEANT POSITIONS DO YOU HAVE ALTOGETHER? SO ALTOGETHER IT'D BE 59, INCLUDING BOTH SIDES.

39 IN DETENTION AND THEN 20 IN ENFORCEMENT.

HOW ABOUT CAPTAINS? THREE. IN DETENTION, I'LL TELL YOU.

THREE IN DETENTION AND 4 IN ENFORCEMENT.

AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR MAJORS AND WE HAVE A MAJOR.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE WE HAVE TWO MAJORS ON THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE, ONE MAJOR ON THE TENSION SIDE, AND THEN LIEUTENANTS.

WE HAVE 11 POSITIONS IN DETENTION AND TEN POSITIONS IN ENFORCEMENT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JUSTICE ELLIOTT.

JUSTICE ROBINSON YOU RECOGNIZED.

THANK YOU. OUT OF THESE 39 POSITIONS, HOW MANY ARE FILLED CURRENTLY IN DETENTION? WE HAVE 30 FILLED.

WE HAVE NINE VACANCIES RIGHT NOW.

OKAY. THANK YOU. I YIELD.

THANK YOU, JUSTICE ROBINSON.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON DEPARTMENT FOR 18? JUSTICE MCMULLEN YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

OKAY. AND YOU SAID HOW MANY? REPEAT THAT NUMBER AGAIN.

YOU HAVE 30.

WE HAVE 39 SERGEANT POSITIONS.

WE HAVE 30 FIELD AT THIS TIME.

OKAY. WE'RE GETTING READY TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF A PROMOTION PROCESS FOR SOME OF THOSE POSITIONS.

OKAY. SO WHEN YOU SAY PROMOTION PROCESS, YOU'RE SAYING TO FILL THE POSITION? YES, MA'AM. TO MOVE THEM UP.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU, JUSTICE.

MCMULLEN. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF THERE BE NONE. JUSTIN, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE, MA'AM.

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SIX AYES ZERO NO'S.

THANK YOU. THIS WILL GO TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT FOR FINAL APPROVAL.

JUSTICE ELLIOTT.

PLEASE FORGIVE ME THAT I.

OH, YES.

HOW MANY POSITIONS DO YOU.

WHILE I THINK THERE'S ABOUT FIVE IT POSITIONS.

CHIEF, IS THAT CORRECT? SIX IT POSITIONS.

I JUST WANTED. YES, SIR.

OKAY. WE ARE NOW MOVING TO DEPARTMENT 400.

SO I'LL GO DOWN THE LIST, STARTING WITH THE THREE ENFORCEMENT CLERKS.

WE'RE ASKING TO MOVE FROM A C 107 TO A C 108 UPGRADE AND TITLE CHANGE.

WE MADE SOME CHANGES IN LAST YEAR WITH SOME OF OUR ENFORCEMENT CLERKS IN OUR RECORDS SECTION.

WHAT WE DID NOT ADDRESS AT THE TIME WAS OUR ENFORCEMENT CLERKS IN OUR JUDICIAL SECTION.

THEY HAVE THE SAME QUALIFICATIONS.

THEY HAVE TO BE ACIC CERTIFIED.

I THINK IT'S LEVEL ONE, LEVEL TWO CERTIFICATION.

SO IT'S THE SAME CERTIFICATION AS THE OTHER CLERKS, ENFORCEMENT CLERKS.

AND SO WE'RE ASKING FOR THE THREE POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE THERE TO BE UPGRADED TO THE SAME POSITIONS THAT ARE DOING THE SAME HAVE THE SAME QUALIFICATIONS.

AND. JUSTICE STOWERS YOU RECOGNIZED.

UM, SO THE ONLY QUESTIONS I HAVE HERE ON YOUR REQUEST.

I SUPPORT EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING HERE.

I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ON THE FOUR CADET POSITIONS.

MY UNDERSTANDING AND TELL ME IF IT'S WRONG IS THAT THIS WOULD BE FOR 18 TO 21 YEAR OLDS WHO ARE NOT YET ELIGIBLE.

YOU HAVE TO BE 21 TO SERVE IN THE JAIL, BUT THAT WOULD POSITION THEM IN A PLACE TO TO LEARN THE THE OPERATIONS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THEREFORE BE PREPARED IF THEY SO DESIRED.

AND IF YOU SO DESIRE TO MOVE INTO ACTIVE FULL TIME EMPLOYMENT WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WHEN THEY TURN 21, IS THAT UNDERSTANDING CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

AND PREVIOUSLY WE HAD TWO CADET POSITIONS IN A GRANT TO SEE WHAT THE IMPACT THAT WOULD BE.

AND THE TWO CADETS THAT WE HIRED UNDER THE GRANT POSITION BOTH BECAME SWORN DEPUTIES.

AND SO WE KNOW THAT IT WORKS, THAT WE WANT TO START PEOPLE OFF INTRODUCING THEM INTO LAW ENFORCEMENT AT A YOUNG AGE.

I MEAN, I CAN SPEAK PERSONALLY TO THAT.

THAT'S HOW I STARTED IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, WAS AS A CADET WITH THE LITTLE ROCK POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND I'M DOING 30 YEARS THERE.

SO I KNOW THE IMPORTANCE OF INTRODUCING YOUNG PEOPLE INTO THE PROFESSION, GIVING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK IN VARIOUS AREAS IN THE HOPES THAT THEY WILL RECOGNIZE THE CAREER OPPORTUNITY AND WOULD WANT TO BE A PART OF THE ORGANIZATION.

SO I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR BUDGET 400 WITH THE DUE PASS RECOMMENDATION TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE 26 DEPUTY SHERIFF POSITIONS.

AND I WOULD ASK THAT BE DEFERRED UNTIL WE RECEIVE BACK THE FINAL REPORT.

FROM THE CONSULTING FIRM.

SO IF I CAN MAKE A COMMENT.

I DO. YES, SIR. I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT ON THE 26 DEPUTY POSITIONS THAT I DID BRING THIS LAST YEAR, AND I BROUGHT IT AGAIN THIS YEAR BECAUSE THE STUDY HAD NOT BEEN COMPLETED, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE IN NOVEMBER.

I UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES WITH IT.

I BROUGHT IT TO THE ATTENTION OF THE QUORUM COURT BECAUSE WE HAVE 67% OF THE TIME DEPUTIES DO NOT HAVE A BACKUP ON A CALL.

AND WE'RE STILL DEALING WITH THAT.

ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE'RE FULLY WITH THE PEOPLE WE'RE HIRING NOW.

EVERYONE WE HAVE SELECTED FOR ENFORCEMENT, WE'RE FULLY STAFFED IN ENFORCEMENT.

WE STILL HAVE TO DO SOME TRAINING.

WE HAVE WE'RE PLANNING A RECRUIT SCHOOL IN MAY, I THINK, 21ST.

DON'T HAVE THE POSITIONS TO HAVE A SCHOOL.

THAT'S A GREAT POSITION TO BE IN.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY, I DO HAVE VACANCIES OF SERGEANTS ALSO IN THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE, WHICH I CANNOT PROMOTE ANYBODY UP.

WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROMOTION PROCESS RIGHT NOW AND I WILL HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL VACANCIES.

IT WOULD BE GREAT TO BE ABLE TO PUT SOME PEOPLE IN OUR RECRUIT SCHOOL IN PREPARATION FOR THESE VACANCIES.

AND AGAIN, 67% OF THE TIME DEPUTIES DON'T HAVE A BACKUP ON A CALL.

AND I CAN GIVE YOU INFORMATION ABOUT ABOUT THOSE SITUATIONS THAT PEOPLE ARE DEALING WITH.

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OUR DEPUTIES ARE DEALING WITH RESPONDING TO CALLS, HAVING THE FIGHT FOR 35 MINUTES BY THEMSELVES BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ANYONE TO RESPOND AND ASSIST.

I JUST BELIEVE THAT WAITING ANOTHER 45 DAYS TO GET THE FULL REPORT, THE COMPREHENSIVE REPORT, WOULD BE THE PRUDENT THING TO DO.

THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACKWARDS IF WE KNOW WE'RE NOT EXPECTING THAT.

BUT I DIDN'T HEAR A SECOND.

IS THERE A SECOND TO MY MOTION TO APPROVE BUDGET 400 TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT WITH THE DUE PASS RECOMMENDATION? WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE 26 DEPUTY POSITIONS THAT WERE AWAITING THE FINAL STUDY.

IS THERE A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED IMPROPERLY.

SECOND, THAT WE FORWARD EVERYTHING TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT EXCLUDING THE 26.

SO WHAT YOU WOULD BE VOTING ON HIS MOTION IS TO BATCH THE THREE ENFORCEMENT CLERKS, THE 20 SERGEANT POSITIONS, THE FOUR CADET POSITIONS, ENFORCEMENT CLERKS AND LIEUTENANTS.

THAT WOULD BE YOUR BATCH.

HE'S ASKING THAT YOU PASS OVER THE 26 AT THIS TIME.

DOESN'T MEAN THAT AFTER YOU VOTE ON THIS, YOU COULDN'T BRING IT UP FOR A VOTE.

BUT WHAT HIS MOTION IS AT THIS TIME IS TO BATCH THESE AND PASS OVER THE 26.

IS THAT CORRECT? MR. BLAGG I'VE NOT YIELDED.

BUT TO CLARIFY, WE WILL HAVE A FOLLOW UP BUDGET MEETING ONCE WE HAVE THE REPORT BACK IN LATE MAY, EARLY JUNE, WHERE WE WILL ADDRESS.

CORRECT. WE WILL HAVE A FOLLOW UP MEETING, NOT ONLY TO DEAL WITH THAT, BUT THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER PERSONNEL ITEMS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE UP FROM DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS YIELD.

SO I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT HIS AMENDMENT IS FOR EVERYTHING, EXCLUDING THE 26TH.

YEAH, HE'S JUST MAKING A MOTION TO BATCH THE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR THOSE FIVE DIFFERENT POSITION UPGRADES.

SO THE ENFORCEMENT, THE SERGEANTS, THE CADETS, THE CLERK AND THE LIEUTENANT, HE'S SAYING.

YEAH. SEND THOSE TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT LET'S VOTE ON IT.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

WE DO HAVE QUESTIONS.

WE HAVE LIGHTS ON.

JUSTICE ROBINSON YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

THANK YOU. SO I GUESS I HAVE THE SAME QUESTION, EVEN THOUGH I THINK YOU ALREADY ANSWERED IT.

SO THE 20 SERGEANT POSITIONS, THOSE ARE 100% FULL.

CORRECT. SO AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION IS, YOU SAID.

AND I'M NOT LAW ENFORCEMENT.

SO YOU'LL HAVE TO FORGIVE ME HERE, BUT SO ARE THERE 26 DEPUTIES CURRENTLY? WHEN YOU SAY NO ONE HAS A BACK UP.

IS THAT WHY YOU NEED 26 POSITIONS? SO THAT'S YOU GOT 26 TO COVER 26.

WHAT'S THE NUMBERS THERE? THERE'S THE COUNTY IS DIVIDED UP INTO 16 ZONES AND WE ASSIGN A DEPUTY TO EACH ZONE AND WE TRY TO ASSIGN A DEPUTY EACH ZONE.

WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STAFFING TO DO THAT.

AND WHEN THE DEPUTY RESPONDS TO A CALL, IF YOU HAVE A SHOTS FIRED CALL, YOU HAVE A DISTURBANCE, CALL WHAT HAVE YOU, WE SHOULD SEND A BACKUP ON THAT CALL. AND 69% OF THE TIME WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE TO SEND BECAUSE THE DEPUTIES ARE ON OTHER CALLS.

SO MY QUESTION IS, DO YOU HAVE 26 TO BACKUP? 26? THAT'S ALL I WANT TO KNOW.

I MEAN, SO WHAT WERE WE ASKING FOR? THE 26? IT WOULD INCLUDE TWO.

WE WOULD PUT TWO IN CID, IN INVESTIGATIONS TO ASSIST IN INVESTIGATIONS.

WE PUT 24 INTO PATROL TO ASSIST, TO RESPOND FOR CALLS FOR SERVICES AND TO BE AVAILABLE FOR BACKUP.

OKAY. AND LIKE I SAID, THERE'S SO WE'RE TRYING TO COVER 16 AREAS, 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. WHEN PEOPLE TAKE VACATION, WE STILL HAVE TO COVER WHEN WE'RE DOING TRAINING, WE DO 48 HOURS OF TRAINING EVERY YEAR FOR OUR DEPUTIES AND THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH TRAINING.

SO WHEN THEY'RE IN TRAINING, THEY'RE NOT AVAILABLE TO RESPOND FOR CALLS FOR SERVICES.

OKAY, WELL, I'LL MAKE SOME ASSUMPTIONS THERE THEN MY OTHER QUESTION IS THE NEW LIEUTENANT THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR AND THE NEW CLERK, IS THAT TO GO ALONG WITH THE NEW DEPUTY SHERIFF OR IS THAT NEEDED ELSEWHERE? THE ENFORCEMENT CLERK WILL BE ADDING ONE TO AN ADDITIONAL ONE TO JUDICIAL THAT IS NEEDED.

OKAY. THE LIEUTENANT IS ADDING ONE TO PATROL AND EACH WE HAVE 15 ZONES, BUT WE HAVE SIX AREAS OF THE COUNTIES DIVIDED UP IN EACH OF THOSE AREAS ARE DIVIDED UP INTO ZONES. AND WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE WHAT WE WANT TO HAVE IS A LIEUTENANT IN EACH ONE OF THOSE AREAS TO SUPERVISE THOSE SERGEANTS AND THOSE DEPUTIES IN THOSE AREAS.

AND THEY WORK THE THE DIFFERENT SHIFTS.

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SO WE HAVE FULL COVERAGE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. I YIELD.

THANK YOU, JUSTICE ROBINSON.

I DON'T SEE YOUR LIGHT ON.

WELL. OKAY.

JUSTICE LEWISON YOU RECOGNIZED.

ALL RIGHT. SO YOU WERE SAYING.

UH, THERE'S 26 OUT THERE.

YOU WANT PEOPLE.

YOU WANT MORE TO COVER THEM.

SO IF WE CAN'T GIVE YOU ALL THESE PEOPLE BECAUSE WE'RE WAITING TILL MAY, UM, HOW MANY COULD YOU GET BY WITH? YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY THAT IF WE CAN'T WAIT TILL MAY, I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO HAVE AS MANY AS I COULD GET.

IF I CAN GET TEN POSITIONS, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL CONSIDERING THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO PROMOTIONS HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.

THAT WOULD IF I'M ABLE TO PROMOTE SIX SERGEANTS, THAT'S GOING TO GIVE ME I'LL BE FOUR DEPUTIES SHORT AUTOMATIC WHEN I DO THOSE PROMOTIONS.

AND SO IF I COULD GET AT LEAST TEN, THAT WOULD GET ME MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

THANK YOU, JUSTICE LEWISON.

MADAM CLERK. AND JUST FOR CLARITY, I KNOW WE ALL WANT THAT YOU GUYS ALL WANT TO DISCUSS THE 26 DEPUTIES, BUT THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS FOR THE UPGRADES AND CADETS, IF YOU WANT TO DISPENSE WITH THAT REQUEST AND GET THOSE APPROVED, THEN YOU GUYS CAN ALWAYS COME BACK AND START DISCUSSING THE 26 DEPUTIES AS WELL.

BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE MOTION IS TO GET THE LIEUTENANT ENFORCEMENT, THE CADETS, THE SERGEANT UPGRADES AND THE ENFORCEMENT UPGRADES.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING ME BACK TO THAT.

NO PROBLEM. JUSTICE MCMULLEN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

SINCE I'M RECOGNIZED, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SAY WHAT I NEED TO SAY AND THEN MAYBE WE CAN GO AHEAD AND TAKE THAT VOTE AND THEN BRING THIS BACK TO THE FLOOR.

BUT BASICALLY, I WANT TO KNOW, DID YOU KNOW, SHERIFF, THAT THE STUDY WOULD BE COMPLETED IN MAY PERHAPS.

AND I SEE SOMEONE SHAKING HIS HEAD.

ARE YOU SAYING, NO, IT WON'T BE COMPLETED IN MAY WAY BEHIND? IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.

OKAY. SO DID YOU KNOW THAT IT WOULD BE STUDIED, COMPLETED IN MAY? NO. THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS FOR IT TO BE COMPLETED IN NOVEMBER.

YES, IT WAS. AND WHEN IT WASN'T COMPLETED AND WE'RE STILL DEALING WITH DATA IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY, I ONLY HAVE A WINDOW OF TIME ONE TIME A YEAR TO REQUEST POSITIONS.

AND SO I UTILIZE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REQUEST THE SAME POSITIONS I REQUESTED LAST YEAR.

I UNDERSTAND. AND SO THAT'S WHY THIS WAS PUT UP.

I FOUND OUT.

I GUESS A WEEK AGO MAYBE.

I THINK MAYBE A WEEK AND A HALF AGO THAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO AN ON SITE.

NOW, THERE'S STILL I STILL HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

WE'RE STILL NOT DEALING WITH JUDICIAL.

AND OUR RESPONSIBILITY FOR JUDICIAL AND ALL THE SERVICES THAT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE.

THAT IS A REQUIREMENT OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, A JUDICIAL OVER IN THE COURTS.

UH HUH, YES. YES.

GOING TO TRANSPORT PEOPLE WHO ARE ARRESTED ELSEWHERE.

YES, I UNDERSTAND IT WAS SAID THAT YOU HAD PLENTY OVER THERE, BUT THEN AGAIN, SOMEONE ELSE DENIED THAT AS NOT BEING FACTUAL.

SO WHAT I AM LOOKING AT IS THAT I KNOW THAT YOU NEED THESE AND THAT IS WHY YOU'VE COME BACK.

SO NOW YOU MENTIONED TEN.

YOU KNOW, I CAN RESPECT THE FACT THAT YOU NEED IT.

IT'S BEEN HELD UP.

OKAY. THE STUDY, IF WE VOTE ON THEM NOW, IT WOULD MAKE OUR PURPOSE FOR THE STUDY SOMEWHAT REDUNDANT.

THAT'S FACTUAL THERE.

AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED YOU IF YOU KNEW THAT THE STUDY WOULD BE COMPLETED IN MAY, BECAUSE WE CAN COME BACK AND DO THIS IN JUNE.

I'M NOT SURE IF I'M RIGHT ABOUT THAT OR NOT.

WE ARE COMING BACK IN JUNE.

OKAY. BUT HE'S BEEN.

CAN YOU MANAGE ANOTHER MONTH OR TWO TO.

YOU KNOW, YOU HATE TO DO THAT, OTHERWISE YOU WOULDN'T HAVE COME BACK.

I CAME BACK BECAUSE WHEN I PRESENTED IT, WHEN I MADE THE REQUEST, I HAD NO IDEA WHEN THE STUDY WOULD BE DONE.

THEY'RE GOING TO COME IN AND DO START DOING INTERVIEWS.

I BELIEVE IT'S NOVEMBER EXCUSE ME, MAY 13TH AND 14TH.

SO I DON'T BELIEVE THE STUDY IS GOING TO BE DONE IN MAY BECAUSE AS HE MENTIONED, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AND EVALUATE IT AND DISCUSS IS THERE ARE

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ANY ISSUES THAT WE'RE MISSING.

SO IT MAY BE DONE IN JUNE.

IT MAY BE DONE IN JULY.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHEN THE STUDY IS GOING TO BE DONE.

AND DID I RECEIVE ANY INFORMATION THAT THE STUDY WOULD BE COMPLETED IN? MAYBE I HEAR WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM AND WHAT I'M THINKING IS THIS.

UM, MAYBE WE CAN COMPROMISE ON THIS AND CONSIDER THE TEN.

NOW, TO ME, THAT SOUNDS REASONABLE.

IF IT ISN'T, THEN SOMEONE MIGHT WANT TO RAISE THE ISSUE AS TO WHY.

BUT I WILL SAY POINT OF ORDER, WE CAN DO WHATEVER.

BUT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR THE FIVE ITEMS. SO ARE WE GOING TO DEAL WITH THOSE AND AND MOVE THAT ON TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT? AND THEN OKAY, THE QUESTION WOULD BE AND THEN AM I OUT OF AND THEN WE WOULD COME BACK TO THE WE WOULD COME BACK.

WE FALL BACK TO THAT LEFT TO THAT LINE ITEM THAT'S TODAY.

YES. BECAUSE WE'RE BATCHING AND WE'RE TRYING TO BATCH THOSE.

SURE. THEN WE CAN DO THAT TODAY.

TODAY, YES.

SO YOU OKAY, GO AHEAD.

GO AHEAD. I FOLLOWING YOU NOW.

SO ARE YOU ARE YOU DONE JUSTICE MCMULLEN SURE.

THE WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW THE PROCEDURE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BE OUT OF ORDER.

AND IF THE PROCEDURE CAN BE THAT WAY AND YES, IF WE CAN FOLLOW THAT PROCEDURE, BY ALL MEANS, THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO VOTE AGAIN. YES, MA'AM.

ALL RIGHT, THEN. JUSTICE ELLIOTT.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. THANK YOU, JUSTICE MCMULLEN.

DO NOT. I'M TRYING TO THINK OF MORE.

I KNOW SHE WAS SAYING TEN.

BUT IF WE COULD GO.

THIS IS ME.

THIS IS MONEY. I'D LIKE TO GO.

13. HALF OF IT.

THAT'S EVEN BETTER.

I'M SORRY.

WELL, CAN WE DISPENSE WITH THE ORIGINAL AND THEN YOU GUYS CAN HAMMER OUT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO? AM I CAN JUST MAKE A COMMENT.

WAS I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO? AND I THINK WHAT WE'RE GETTING AT HERE IS WHAT THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO DEAL WITH THE FIVE.

AND THEN IF YOU WANT TO BRING UP THE 26, YOU CAN BRING UP THE 26 THEN.

SO BY ALL MEANS, I DO WANT YOU TO APPROVE THE FIVE OH AND WE CAN COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT THE 26.

SO I'M OKAY WITH TAKING CARE OF THOSE POSITIONS AND THEN CONSIDERING ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO CONSIDER.

OKAY. JUSTICE STOWERS, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

I'D LIKE TO CALL THE QUESTION ON THE MOTION.

JUSTIN, WOULD YOU CALL? OH, DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT? YOU CAN DO A VOICE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR.

SAY AYE. ALL IN FAVOR? LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL RIGHT, NOW WE'RE MOVING.

ALL RIGHT, FOLKS. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE DEPARTMENT 400.

YOUR ONE VOTE WILL BE RECORDED FOR THE REQUEST FOR THREE ENFORCEMENT CLERK UPGRADES, 20 SERGEANT UPGRADES FOR NEW CADETS AND ENFORCEMENT CLERK UPGRADE, AND A NEW LIEUTENANT.

I'M SORRY, AN ENFORCEMENT CLERK.

NEW POSITION. SO YOUR ONE VOTE WILL BE RECORDED FOR ALL OF THOSE REQUESTS? . SIX AYES ZERO NO'S YOU ONLY NEEDED FIVE.

SO THIS WILL GO TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT FOR FINAL APPROVAL.

SO WE ARE NOW.

AND 26 DEPUTY POSITIONS.

AND I'M SORRY.

DID YOU HAVE YOUR.

JUSTICE ELLIOTT.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

I'M STILL ALLOWED TO GO BACK TO 13.

YOU NEED TO MAKE THAT MOTION IN THE FORM OF MOTION TO FOR THE 13 DEPUTIES.

SO RIGHT NOW. DO WE HAVE A COST? IF I UNDERSTAND HIS MOTION CORRECTLY, I SECOND IT.

I. WHATEVER. OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY.

SECOND, THAT WE AMEND THIS FROM 26 TO 13 DEPUTIES.

AND WE DO HAVE QUESTIONS JUST AS MCMULLEN YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

NO, I DON'T HAVE MY LIGHT ON.

I KNOW BECAUSE JUSTICE CURRY, WHO IS A GHOST, HAS HER LIGHT ON.

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OH, LORD. JUSTICE STOWERS, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS WITH THE CAVEAT THAT WE DON'T EXPECT THAT THE STUDY WOULD COME BACK AND AT THE END OF THE DAY WOULD REFUTE THIS, THEN WE'D HAVE TO REVISIT IT.

AS FAR AS REDUCING, CORRECT? CORRECT. WE DON'T EXPECT THAT TO BE THE CASE, NO.

SO I'M COMFORTABLE WITH 50% OF IT.

AND I THINK THAT THE STUDY WILL BEAR OUT WHAT IT DOES.

I THINK YOU JUST STOWERS.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? AND THIS IS ON 13.

DEPUTY POSITIONS.

THERE BE NONE? JUSTIN, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? YES, MA'AM. SO THE MOTION IS TO ADD.

13 NEW POSITIONS TO 400.

YES, VERY GOOD.

SIX ZERO. THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT. LET'S GO TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT.

NOW WE'RE DOWN TO DEPARTMENT 3652-0418.

YOUR WHAT IS THAT COST OF GRANT OR HOW DO YOU PRONOUNCE THAT COST? GRANT. THESE ARE TWO WELL, IT'S A DOWNGRADE ON THE ORIGINAL.

QUALIFICATIONS IT INCLUDED.

A COUNSELOR BEING COUNSELED, HAVING A LICENSED COUNSELOR, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE MORE EDUCATION.

IT WASN'T THE INTENT WHEN WE ORIGINALLY WROTE THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR THE JOB.

IT WAS TO HAVE SOME COUNSELING EXPERIENCE, BUT NOT THAT LICENSING.

AND SO WE MADE A REQUEST TO DOWNGRADE THAT POSITION.

FROM C-118 TO C-117.

WE PRESENTED IT TO HR.

OKAY. WE DEFINITELY HAVE A GHOST BECAUSE JUSTICE CURRY'S LIGHT JUST KEEPS COMING ON.

I'M ASSUMING THAT'S JUSTICE MCMULLEN, THOUGH.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED? WELL, AT THIS TIME YOU ARE CORRECT, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

YES, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THIS TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT WITH A DUE PASS RECOMMENDATION.

SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECOND.

ARE WE BATCHING BOTH OF THESE POSITIONS? THEY'RE BOTH THE SAME POSITIONS, SAME PAY GRADE.

THEY'RE JUST IN DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.

IS THAT HOW I'M READING THAT MOTION, MISS MCMULLEN? YES, I WAS HOPING WE WOULD.

OKAY. VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT.

SO YOUR ONE VOTE WILL BE RECORDED FOR THE TWO DOWNGRADES IN FOUR AND DETENTION AND ENFORCEMENT.

SIX ZERO. THAT WILL GO TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT.

WE ARE NOW MOVING ON TO 30 802-0 400.

OPIOID ABUSE SITE BASED PROGRAM.

NO, WE'RE GOING. MADAM CLERK.

I'M SORRY, MADAM CHAIR. I'M SORRY.

WE'D GO DOWN TO THE EXTENSION OF SIGNING BONUSES FOR EMPLOYEES HIRED FROM JANUARY 1ST THROUGH JULY 1ST, 2023.

I'M SORRY.

I JUST LOOKED RIGHT AT THAT.

AND YES, EXTENSIONS OF SIGNING BONUSES FOR EMPLOYEES HIRED FROM JANUARY 1ST, 2023 TO JULY 1ST, 2023.

SO SORRY.

NOPE. OKAY, SO LAST YEAR I MADE A REQUEST ALSO, AND THIS BODY APPROVED A BONUS NOT ONLY FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, BUT FOR OTHER COUNTY POSITIONS THAT WERE HARD TO FILL.

IT'S A $5,000 SIGNING BONUS.

125,000 WAS ALLOCATED FOR ENFORCEMENT.

400,000 WAS ALLOCATED FOR DETENTION.

WE'VE HAD A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN STAFFING BECAUSE OF THIS BONUS AND WE'RE ASKING TO CONTINUE IT.

LAST YEAR WE WERE HIRED 75 DEPUTIES.

LAST YEAR, OF COURSE, WE DIDN'T KEEP THEM ALL.

OUR RETENTION LEVEL WENT FROM ABOUT A 30% TO ABOUT A 40, 42, 43% ON RETAINING PEOPLE.

AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN RECENTLY WAS ONCE THE BONUSES, WHICH THE WAY IT'S SET UP, YOU'RE HIRED SIX MONTHS, YOU GET HALF THE MONEY, ANOTHER YEAR YOU GET THE OTHER HALF.

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AND ONCE THAT THOSE PAYMENTS STARTED TO COME, WE'VE SEEN MORE INTEREST.

AND SO FAR THIS YEAR, WE HAVE HIRED 49 INDIVIDUALS FOR OUR RETENTION AND ENFORCEMENT.

WE'RE OUT OF MONEY.

AND I WOULD LIKE FOR US, I'M ASKING THE BODY TO ALLOCATE ADDITIONAL FUNDS SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE THIS FILLING THESE POSITIONS.

WE'VE GOTTEN TO THE POINT OF ALMOST 100 VACANCIES IN OUR DETENTION CENTER WHILE OUR ENFORCEMENT IS, AGAIN, I CAN SAY TODAY, FULLY STAFFED WITH THE OTHER POSITIONS WE'RE COMING IN WILL BE OF GREAT HELP WITH OUR DETENTION.

WE'RE GETTING CLOSER AND CLOSER TO BEING STAFFED AND THE POSITION THAT CREATES A SAFER ENVIRONMENT.

OUR DEPUTIES ARE WORKING SIX DAYS A WEEK PLUS OVERTIME AND THEY'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. SO THIS HAS BEEN EXTREMELY HELPFUL.

AND I'M ASKING THE BODY TO CONTINUE THIS PROGRAM AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL FUNDING SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO THOSE HIRED FROM JANUARY 1ST TO AT LEAST JULY 1ST.

WE HAVE FUNDING FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND THESE ARE ARPA FUNDS TO THESE ARE NOT COMING OUT OF GENERAL FUND.

THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL FUNDING SOURCE WAS OUT OF ARPA.

SO IT'S NO IMPACT ON THE GENERAL.

OKAY. I'M ASSUMING WE HAVE THE ARPA FUNDS.

THAT'S JUST THE STOWERS YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

SO SHERIFF, CONGRATULATIONS.

AND I BELIEVE IT'S GETTING TO A STARTING PAY OF 50,000 FOR DEPUTIES HAS CERTAINLY HELPED YOU ON THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE TO BRING THAT UP.

AND EVEN WITH THE SIGNING BONUSES, IT SEEMS THAT WE THAT YOU STILL STRUGGLE TO FILL THE VACANCIES AT THE JAIL. WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE? MAYBE OTHER THAN MONEY? WE ONLY HAVE SO MUCH OF THAT.

BUT MONEY AND OTHER THINGS.

WHAT IS WHAT DO YOU FEEL IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO GET THE JAIL, AT LEAST TO A SUFFICIENT STAFFING LEVEL? BECAUSE MY CONCERN IS AT THE STAFFING.

TELL ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I THINK WE'RE DOWN ABOUT 40%.

IN THE JAIL? WELL, STAFFING WE'RE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN THAT RIGHT NOW, I BELIEVE.

WELL, LET'S SAY WE CAN GO WITH THE LET'S SAY YEAH, SAY 50%.

MY CONCERN IS SAFETY OF THE INMATES.

SAFETY OF THE GUARDS? YES. SAFETY OF EVERYBODY THAT'S IN AND OUT OF THAT FACILITY.

SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, WHAT DO WE AS A COUNTY AND AS A SHERIFF'S OFFICE, WHAT'S IT GOING TO TAKE TO GET PEOPLE TO WANT TO WORK IN A JAIL? SO IT'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO NEED.

ONE, IT'S A CATCH 22 WHEN YOU'RE SHORT STAFFED AND YOU HIRE PEOPLE AND THEY DON'T HAVE TIME WITH THEIR FAMILY, THEN THEY LEAVE.

AND THEN YOU HAVE SENIOR DEPUTIES WHO LEAVE AS WELL BECAUSE THEY'RE TIRED OF WORKING AND NOT HAVING TIME WITH THEIR FAMILY.

THEY CAN GO WORK AT LITTLE ROCK AND THEY GO WORK AT THE CORRECTIONS.

THEY CAN GO WORK OTHER PLACES BECAUSE WHILE WE HAVE A $5,000 BONUS, LITTLE ROCK HAS A $10,000 BONUS.

SHERIFF'S OFFICE. I MEAN, THE STATE POLICE HAS INCREASED SALARIES.

SO WE'RE ALWAYS COMPETING WITH THAT.

AND SO IT'S AS AS WE CONTINUE TO DO WHAT'S WORKING TO BRING STAFF IN, THEN WE'LL GET TO A POINT WHERE PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY SPEND TIME WITH THEIR FAMILY AND HAVE A BALANCED WORK. LIFE. IN ADDITION, IS MAKING REPAIRS IN THE DETENTION CENTER, OUR DETENTION CENTER.

NOT ONLY WE'RE UNDERSTAFFED, BUT THE FACILITY IS BUILT FOR 1210 PEOPLE.

LAST SUMMER WE WERE AVERAGING 1380.

WE ARE CONSISTENTLY AVERAGING OVER 13 30IN THE FACILITY.

PLUS QUORUM COURT HAS GIVEN RESOURCES TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

WE REPAIRED THE LOCKS BECAUSE INMATES WERE DETAINEES, WERE POPPING THE LOCKS COMING OUT OF THE CELLS.

THAT'S BEEN FIXED.

WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF REPLACING THE CENTRAL CONTROL SYSTEM BECAUSE THE SYSTEM DOESN'T WORK WHERE WE CAN'T LOCK THE DOORS.

WE'RE HAVING TO USE KEYS.

AND THE ONLY SOLUTION IS TO REPLACE THE SYSTEM.

EACH OF THESE, AS YOU REPLACE THE SYSTEM, YOU HAVE TO LEAVE A UNIT OPEN.

AND SO AN 80 BED.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE AN 80 BED UNIT THAT HAS TO BE EMPTY SO THAT WE CAN REPLACE THE CONTROL SYSTEM IN IT.

SO AS WE DO THE REPAIRS, I THINK IT'S GOING TO HELP.

BUT ALSO IF YOU'RE ASKING WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS, I THINK RETENTION IS VERY IMPORTANT.

WE HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW DO WE RETAIN THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING THERE, HOW DO WE GET THEM TO UNDERSTAND THEIR VALUE? WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS THAT WE PROVIDE OUR EMPLOYEES? YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT'S BEEN AN ISSUE WITH SPOUSAL HEALTH COVERAGE THAT THE COUNTY DOESN'T OFFER, THAT OTHER AGENCIES OFFER, THAT OTHER

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MUNICIPALITIES OFFER THAT, AND THAT IS A DETERRENT ON RETAINING PEOPLE.

SO I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT LONGEVITY PAY, IF YOU LOOK AT EDUCATION, PAY THOSE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO POSSIBLY DO TO ENHANCE, TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY'RE VALUED, THAT WE APPRECIATE THEM, THEIR SERVICE, BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST HIRING THE THE PERSON ON THE FRONT END, IT'S RETAINING THEM BECAUSE AS YOU GET LAW ENFORCEMENT EXPERIENCE. YOU ARE A GOOD CANDIDATE TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

AND WHILE $50,000 IS A GREAT STARTING SALARY, BUT YOU CAN GO TO OTHER PLACES AND YOU HAVE STEP INCREASES.

I WOULD SAY RIGHT HERE TO THIS BODY THAT IF YOU LOOK AT OUR SALARY RANGE.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S ANOTHER WITH THE DEPUTY'S POSITION.

THERE'S ANOTHER $10,000 IN THE RANGE.

THAT JOB DESCRIPTION WHEN YOU LOOK AT ANY OF THESE CLASSIFICATIONS.

C 107, 118, WHATEVER IT IS, THERE'S A STARTING SALARY.

THERE'S A MIDPOINT.

THE JOHANSEN STUDY IDENTIFIES THE FAIR MARKET RATE, BUT THEN THERE'S A TOP PAY.

AND IF YOU'RE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THAT TOP PAY, WHERE IF YOU'VE GOT FIVE YEARS ON, YOU GET A STEP INCREASE.

THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT OTHER AGENCIES ARE DOING.

THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT HELP TO INSTILL VALUE IN THE INDIVIDUALS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW OUR AVERAGE TIME ON IS 3 OR 4 YEARS IN AN AGENCY LIKE THIS.

WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD.

WE NEED TO KEEP EXPERIENCED PEOPLE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT.

IT TAKES ABOUT FIVE YEARS BEFORE YOU'RE REALLY EXPERIENCED UNDERSTANDING HOW TO DO THE JOB.

AND THAT'S AT FOUR AND FIVE YEARS, WE LOSE PEOPLE.

SO IF THERE'S SOME KIND OF WAY THAT WE CAN EXPAND THE USE THE SALARY RANGE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER HOWEVER THAT LOOKS, WHETHER IT'S TEN YEARS, 15 YEARS TO GET TO THAT TOP PAY, IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE CAN ADDRESS BENEFITS, CONTINUE TO FIX THE FACILITY, HAVE THE THE HIRING BONUSES TO HELP PEOPLE COMING IN TO WANT TO STAY.

I THINK IF WE DO THOSE THINGS, WE CAN HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT.

AND THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT'S UNIQUE TO THE COUNTY WITH TENSION.

I BELIEVE THAT THE STATE HAS THE SAME ISSUE.

AND THEY THEY START THERE AND THE STATE PINS, THEY START THEIR.

GUARDS. I'LL CALL HIM THAT, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, OUT AT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 30 AND 35.

AND YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO START ABOUT AT 50.

SO I DON'T THINK THEY'RE LEAVING US TO GO TO THE STATE NECESSARILY.

BECAUSE IT'S QUITE QUITE A BIT LESS MONEY.

BUT I DO HEAR ALL THE ALL OF YOUR OTHER POINTS.

THE ONLY THING I WOULD POINT OUT ON THE SPOUSAL INSURANCE SIDE WAS THAT WHEN WE OFFERED SPOUSAL INSURANCE, WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 1300 EMPLOYEES, I BELIEVE THERE WAS IN THE BALLPARK OF 20 HUTCH MIGHT BE ABLE TO GIVE ME 18 EMPLOYEES THAT CHOSE TO TAKE THAT OUT.

AND BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T AFFORD IT.

WHAT'S THAT? THEY COULDN'T AFFORD THE RATE? WELL, IT COST THE COUNTY $1 MILLION.

AND AND I UNDERSTAND THAT I DON'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE HISTORY, BUT I'VE BEEN INFORMED ABOUT SOME OF THE HISTORY, WHETHER IT'S RIGHT OR NOT. BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO REVISIT THIS.

WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IS THERE A CO OP, IS THERE SOME WAY TO DO INSURANCE, A WAY THAT WE CAN.

EXCUSE ME. POINT OF ORDER, TO BOTH OF YOU, WE LET'S JUST STICK WITH WHAT WE'RE WE'VE GOT SOME SIGNING BONUSES.

I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE EXTEND THE SIGNING BONUSES FOR EMPLOYEES HIRED FROM JANUARY FIRST, 2023 TO JULY 1ST, 2023, WITH THE DUE PASS RECOMMENDATION.

OKAY. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECOND THAT THIS GO BEFORE THE BOARD QUORUM COURT FOR FINAL APPROVAL.

SO NOW WE ARE DOWN TO FURTHER DISCUSSION.

MY QUESTION, I THINK YOU ANSWERED IT, BUT I THE SIGNING BONUS THEY RECEIVED HOW MUCH WHEN THEY HIRED ON SO THEY DON'T RECEIVE ANY FUNDS UNTIL AT THE SIX MONTH MARK SIX MONTH THEY'LL RECEIVE $2,500.

OKAY. IF THEY LEAVE BEFORE THEY GET THEIR YEAR, THEY HAVE TO PAY THAT 2500 BACK AND THEN THEY GET THE YEAR.

THEN THEY'LL GET THE OTHER 2500.

THANK YOU, JUSTICE ROBINSON YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

THANK YOU. AND THAT WAS MY QUESTION AS WELL.

BUT I WANTED TO ASK AFTER THE YEAR, IS THERE ANY I MEAN, IF THEY LEAVE ONE YEAR AND ONE DAY, DO THEY HAVE TO PAY ANY BACK OR IS IT JUST.

I DON'T BELIEVE SO. NO. ONE YEAR IN ONE DAY, THEY'RE CLEAN.

THEY'RE CLEAN. SO IT'S JUST SO WE ON DAY 364, THEY'RE PAYING IT BACK.

YEAH. RIGHT.

AND RIGHT.

AND THEN SO MY OTHER QUESTION IS, DO YOU SEE.

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A CONTINUATION OF THIS.

I MEAN, I GUESS IT'S REALLY A TWO PART QUESTION.

DO YOU SEE IN 2024 THAT WE'RE GOING TO STILL BE GIVEN A $5,000 BONUS? AND DO YOU SEE MAYBE, YOU KNOW, ASKING IT TO GO UP? YOU KNOW, IT NEEDS TO BE IN 2024.

IT NEEDS TO BE $8,000.

I MEAN, WHAT LOOKING IN YOUR CRYSTAL BALL, WHAT DO YOU KIND OF FORESEE AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, BONUSES? I DON'T SEE THIS CONTINUING FOR, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS OR ANYTHING.

I WOULD MAYBE THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR, YOU KNOW, WE WILL ASSESS WHERE WE'RE AT AND LOOKING AT OUR RETENTION RATE, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE DROPPING OFF BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST THE NEW HIRES THAT LEAVE.

IT'S A SENIOR PEOPLE THAT LEAVE GOING TO OTHER JOBS, YOU KNOW, SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS, I THINK, THIS YEAR TO SEE HOW IT GOES.

AND I THINK THE NEXT STEP IS TO LOOK AT RETENTION.

WHAT CAN WE DO TO RETAIN THE TALENT THAT WE HAVE I'VE IN THE ORGANIZATION, IN THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE? I ABSTAIN OR YES, THANK YOU.

JUSTICE ROBINSON.

JUSTICE ELLIOTT. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO EVERYTHING.

I'M NOT QUESTIONING. HOW LONG? THIS MADE ME A LITTLE DIFFERENT QUESTION HOW LONG IS THE GELLAR GO TO SCHOOL? THE CLASS IS SEVEN WEEKS FOR THE JAILERS, FOR THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE IS 17 WEEKS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU. JUSTICE ELLIOTT. JUSTICE MCMULLEN.

YEAH. OH, ALL RIGHT, THEN.

SO IN REFERENCE TO THE $2,500, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE NOW WITH THE BONUS 2500.

AND ACCORDING TO THIS, YOU'RE REQUESTING FOR IT TO EXTEND THROUGH JULY 1ST.

AM I CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY. AS OF NOW, WE HAVE HAD IT FOR SIX MONTHS ALREADY.

THE FIRST HOW LONG IT'S HOW MANY HAS GONE EFFECTIVE IN MAY? I BELIEVE IT WAS MAY 27TH, 23RD, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THOSE HIRED AFTER THAT DATE WOULD QUALIFY FOR THE BONUS.

SO IT'S BEEN GOING FOR ABOUT AT LEAST ABOUT A YEAR, AT LEAST TWO TERMS. THE FIRST BONUS.

AND THOSE PEOPLE NOW, THIS IS JUST FOR MY INFORMATION, AFTER THEIR SIX MONTHS, UNFORTUNATELY, THEY DON'T GET ANOTHER BONUS.

I KNOW THAT. WELL THEY'LL THEY'LL GET HALF OF IT AT SIX MONTHS.

OH HALF AND THEN THE OTHER HALF AT THE YEAR MARK.

YEAH. 2500 IS THE HALF.

YES MA'AM. YEAH. AND I THINK THAT DOES CERTAINLY GIVE THEM A SENSE OF WORTH WITH TODAY'S ECONOMY LIKE IT IS.

BUT WHAT I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY, JUSTIN OR WAS IT YOU? YEAH, IT WAS JUSTIN.

AND THAT WAS THAT.

THIS IS NOT COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.

CORRECT. SO THE ORIGINAL REQUEST WAS OUT OF ARPA.

THIS REQUEST WOULD ALSO COME OUT OF ARPA.

AND I THINK THAT THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD IT, THIS WOULD GET US AT LEAST THROUGH PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN HIRED AND MAYBE SOME OF THE PEOPLE ARE BEING HIRED OVER THE SUMMER.

THEY WOULD COME BACK IN THE FALL IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S WORKING AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO BUILD IT IN WITH ACTUAL GENERAL FUND AT THAT TIME.

BUT AT THIS POINT, IT'S AN ARPA FUND REQUEST.

IF YOU GUYS WANT TO LOOK AT IT AS A LONG TERM BENEFIT, THEN IT WOULD PROBABLY BE NEEDED TO ADD INTO THE BUDGET THROUGH GENERAL FUNDS.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT THEN.

THANK YOU. YES.

OKAY. THANK YOU. JUSTICE MCMULLEN.

JUSTICE ELLIOTT. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED AGAIN.

ONE OTHER QUESTION. YES, SIR.

SIR. HOW MANY? O LORD OF GOD. YOU MEAN ALL THESE PRISONS? YES, SIR. ON THE JAIL PERSONNEL.

HOW MANY DO YOU HAVE? HOW MANY VACANCIES HAVE YOU HAD IN THE LAST YEAR OR SIX MONTHS THAT YOU'RE SHORT OR BE GONE UP? HAVE YOU COME BACK DOWN? SO WE HAVE FLUCTUATED IN.

WE'VE BEEN AROUND 70 VACANCIES.

BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR, WE HIT ALMOST 100 VACANCIES FOR DEPUTIES IN THE DETENTION CENTER.

RIGHT NOW, WITH THE BONUSES AND WITH THE HIRES THAT WE'VE MADE, WE'VE HAD A SURGE OF PEOPLE WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO BRING IN.

AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 49 VACANCIES.

I BELIEVE WE HAVE 23, 26 STARTING ON MONDAY, I BELIEVE.

AND WE JUST WE HAVE A CLASS OF NINE GRADUATING THIS FRIDAY.

AND YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME. I APPRECIATE IT.

IF YOU COULD COME TO ONE OF OUR GRADUATIONS AND THEN WE HAVE A CLASS GOING ON RIGHT NOW WITH ANOTHER 20 IN IT.

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SO THIS HAS BEEN THE LAST TWO MONTHS, YOU KNOW, TWO AND A HALF MONTHS THAT WE'VE HAD THE SURGE IN BEING ABLE TO BRING SOME PEOPLE ON.

AND SO RIGHT NOW, OUR VACANCY IS RELATIVELY IT'S STILL HIGH AND IT'S STILL A STRUGGLE BECAUSE THE ONES WE'VE HIRED, THEY'RE NOT WORKING IN THE JAIL.

THEY ARE IN TRAINING.

SO LOOKING AT 49 RIGHT NOW, WE'VE BEEN AVERAGING AROUND 70 VACANCIES A YEAR.

SO YOU HAVE A FEW GRADUATING.

PRETTY SOON I'LL HAVE NINE GRADUATE THIS FRIDAY AND THEN ANOTHER AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A I BELIEVE IT'S ANOTHER 20 THAT HAVE STARTED SCHOOL LAST WEEK. THEY'RE IN THEIR SECOND WEEK OF TRAINING AND SO WE ARE PUSHING OUR TRAINING STAFF IS REALLY PUSHING TO GET THESE SCHOOLS GOING, TO DO THE TRAINING TO GET THE HELP INTO THE UNIT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, SIR.

THANK YOU. JUSTICE ELLIOTT, WHEN I NEED TO REMIND EVERYONE TO PLEASE, LET'S STAY ON TOPIC.

THANK YOU, JUSTICE ROBINSON.

THIS IS A QUESTION FOR HUTCH.

HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE HAVE IN THE ARPA FUNDS? UH, I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER IN FRONT OF ME.

ROUGHLY. PROBABLY LEFT.

THAT'S NOT BEEN.

UM. TIED TO SOMETHING.

UM. ABOUT EIGHT.

9 MILLION. OKAY.

THANK YOU. I YIELD. ROUGHLY.

THANK YOU, JUSTICE ROBINSON.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IN REFERENCE TO THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE FLOOR? EXTENSION OF SIGNING BONUSES.

IF THERE BE NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

JUSTIN, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? ABSOLUTELY. SO THIS IS THE SIGNING BONUSES, RIGHT? YES, JUST CHECKING.

IT'S BEEN A WHILE.

. ONE, TWO, THREE.

NEEDED FIVE, GOT FIVE.

THIS WILL GO TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT FOR FINAL APPROVAL.

AND WE'RE NOW DOWN TO OUR LAST ITEM OF DISCUSSION.

YOU KNOW, WE WERE LOOKING AT SOME INCENTIVES YOU MENTIONED FOR CAREER INCENTIVES TO ADDRESS RETENTION, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO PURSUE THAT RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT HOW CAN WE IMPLEMENT SOMETHING.

WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW DO WE IMPLEMENT SOMETHING COUNTYWIDE.

SO IF I MAY, I MEAN, I HAVE TALKED TO SOME OF THEIR STAFF AND I THINK THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO WORK SOMETHING OUT AND GET IT HOPEFULLY BY THE TIME THAT WE MEET IN JUNE.

SO HOPEFULLY THERE WILL BE A COMPLETED PROPOSAL THAT BENEFITS EVERYBODY.

IT HELPS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND PALATABLE TO THE COMMITTEE AS WELL.

THANK YOU, SHERIFF.

THANK YOU. AND WE ARE NOW AT THE CONCLUSION OF OUR MEETING.

CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING.

ARE THERE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS OR PUBLIC COMMENT?

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.