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[INAUDIBLE] WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET READY TO START OUR MEETING.
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WE'LL WE'LL OPEN OUR MEETING WITH AN INVOCATION BY JUSTICE STOWERS, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.ARE THERE ANY VOLUNTEERS SINCE JUSTICE GREEN IS NOT HERE? OKAY. OKAY.
IF YOU CAN, WOULD YOU PLEASE STAND AND ALLOW THE OTHER TWO JUSTICES TO BE SEATED? THANK YOU, ALMIGHTY GOD.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR GOODNESS, YOUR GRACE AND YOUR MERCY.
WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD BE WITH OUR PROCEEDINGS THIS EVENING, THAT YOU WOULD GIVE US WISDOM, INSIGHT, FORESIGHT, AND THAT YOU WOULD BE WITH EVERYONE HERE AND GIVE US SAFE TRAVELS HOME.
AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
THANK YOU, EVERYONE, FOR PARTICIPATING IN OUR OPENING CEREMONIES.
UH, AMY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? I DON'T THINK YOUR MIC IS ON.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. IS THAT OKAY? YEAH, THAT'S BETTER.
13 PRESENT. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, SO WE CAN DO THE COUNTY'S BUSINESS.
AND JUST A REMINDER, YOUR MICROPHONES ARE ON.
SO IF YOU WHEN YOU'RE RESPONDING WITH YOU, PLEASE SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE.
AND IF YOU WANT TO BE RECOGNIZED, JUST WAVE OR SOMETHING.
ALL RIGHT. UH, ITEM 5, APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
IS THERE A RECOMMENDATION? SO MOVED.
A MOTION WAS MADE WITH THE SECOND THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? WITHOUT OBJECTION, OUR MINUTES HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS.
AMY, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ 23-I-41.
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 22-OR-45 2023 ANNUAL BUDGET PULASKI COUNTY, ARKANSAS TO RECOGNIZE AN APPROPRIATE GRANT FUNDS FOR THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND ROAD AND BRIDGE DEPARTMENT FOR THE ZEUBER ROAD IMPROVEMENT PHASE TWO PROJECT TO IMPROVE TRANSPORTATION COMPONENTS AT THE LITTLE ROCK PORT AUTHORITY INDUSTRIAL PARK.
MOVE THAT WE SEND THIS TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT FOR DO PASS.
JUSTICE GREEN WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPLAIN OR DO YOU HAVE SOMEONE TO EXPLAIN FOR YOU? WELL. OH GOOD.
FREDERICK LOVE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY SERVICES.
THIS IS ACTUALLY A PROJECT THAT WE HAVE FINISHED.
THIS IS A FUNDS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED BACK IN AS A REIMBURSEMENT.
AS YOU KNOW, THIS WAS A $3 MILLION REIMBURSEMENT GRANT FROM EDA.
NOW THAT WE'VE RECEIVED THE FUNDS IN, WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS REIMBURSE THE CITY OF LITTLE ROCK.
YEAH. I'D JUST LIKE TO BE ADDED A SPONSOR.
YEAH. OKAY. I THINK AMY HAS EVERYBODY.
JUSTICE MASSEY. I THINK SHE'S GOT A QUESTION.
MY QUESTION IS, HOW MUCH IS IT ALL? ALL OF THE MONEY GOING TO THEM OR JUST SOME OF IT? NO, NO, ALL OF I MEAN, THIS IS THE WHAT LITTLE ROCK DID WAS THEY THEY ACTUALLY PUT IN THIS IS PART OF THE [INAUDIBLE] PHASE THAT THEY DID.
AND SO THEY EXTENDED THEIR MONEY.
OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NONE. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR LOVE.
AMY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON 23-I-41.
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13 AYES 0 NOS, WE WILL SEND 23-I-41 TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT WITH A DO PASS RECOMMENDATION.AMY, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ 23-I-42.
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 22-OR-45 2023 ANNUAL BUDGET PULASKI COUNTY, ARKANSAS TO RECOGNIZE AND APPROPRIATE FUNDS RECEIVED FROM CENTRAL ARKANSAS WATER INTO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET FOR THE PURCHASE OF A VEHICLE.
MOVE TO SEND TO QUORUM COURT WITH A DO PASS.
LET THE RECORD ALSO SHOW HAVE A NEW ARRIVAL.
OH, I'M SORRY. JUSTICE LEWISON.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPLAIN OR WOULD YOU LIKE HUTCH TO TAKE OVER FOR YOU I'VE GOT IT. IF YOU REMEMBER BACK WHERE WE HAD THE TWO EMPLOYEES IN PLANNING THAT ARE PAID BY CENTRAL ARKANSAS WATER, PART OF THAT CONTRACT IS THEY PAY FOR A VEHICLE. IT'S THAT TIME MONEY FOR.
THANK YOU, HUTCH I THINK JUSTICE MCMULLEN.
NO, NOW, YOU SAID TWO EMPLOYEES.
NO, I DON'T REMEMBER. WHAT DEPARTMENT WERE THEY WITH? WITH PLANNING. THEY WERE WITH PLANNING.
OKAY. BUT PAID BY CENTRAL ARKANSAS WATER.
SO WHAT THEY WERE DOING WAS PLANNING HAD SOMETHING ACTUALLY TO DO.
YES. WATERSHED COORDINATOR AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE OTHER TITLE.
AND THIS IS AN ONGOING THING? YES MA'AM. OKAY. THANKS, HUTCH.
JUSTICE MCCOY, HOW OFTEN YOU SAID THIS IS AN ONGOING THING AMONG TWO EMPLOYEES.
NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
THESE ARE TWO EMPLOYEES IS AN ONGOING THING.
NO, IT'S JUST TIME FOR ANOTHER CAR.
THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS.
AND JUST ROUGHLY HOW MANY HOW OFTEN DO THEY GET A CAR? THE LAST ONE WAS 2018.
THANK YOU. HUTCH. AMY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON 23-I-42? 14 AYES. WE WILL SEND 23-I-42 TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT WITH THE DO PASS RECOMMENDATION.
AMY, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ 23-I-43? AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 22-OR-45 2023 ANNUAL BUDGET PULASKI COUNTY, ARKANSAS TO RECOGNIZE AND APPROPRIATE GENERAL FUND REIMBURSEMENT MONEY FOR AN ALL INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND AT TWO RIVERS PARK.
I MOVE TO SEND IT TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT WITH THE DO PASS RECOMMENDATION.
JUSTICE CAPPS WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPLAIN OR DO YOU HAVE SOMEONE THAT CAN HELP YOU OUT? SO IT'S JUST REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE STATE FOR THE ALL INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND, BUT I'LL DEFER TO HUTCH IF HE HAS ANY QUESTIONS.
[INAUDIBLE] JUSTICE MCMULLEN. DID YOU? YES.
JUSTICE MCMULLEN I FEEL AS THOUGH I'M EXPERIENCED DEJA VU.
THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT THIS HAS COME ACROSS THE SCREEN.
WELL, THIS IS THE REIMBURSEMENT IS THIS IS THE REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE STATE FOR THE MONEY WE SPENT.
YEAH. SO WHAT WAS IT THAT CAME ACROSS EARLIER? BECAUSE I'M THINKING, I'M WRITING MONEY FOR US TO BUILD THE ALL INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUNDS.
OKAY. AND THAT WAS PROBABLY ABOUT A MONTH AGO.
WELL, NO, THESE ARE THE PLAYGROUNDS FROM WHEN WE DID THEM LAST YEAR.
WE'RE FINALLY GETTING SOME MONEY BACK.
WE DID SOME MORE MAYBE TWO MONTHS AGO.
BUT THE DIFFERENCE IS, IS THIS IS THE MONEY COMING BACK.
BUT FROM THE FIRST ROUND, NOT THE SECOND ROUND.
NO. THEY ONLY OFFERED IT ON ONE ONCE.
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OKAY. SO IT'S ALL COMING BACK.ALL RIGHT THEN. SO IT'S NOT DEJA VU AFTER ALL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THERE BEING NONE.
AMY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON 23-I-43.
14 AYES. WE WILL SEND 23-I-43 TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT WITH THE DO PASS RECOMMENDATION.
AMY, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ 23-I-44? AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 22-OR-45 2023 ANNUAL BUDGET PULASKI COUNTY ARKANSAS TO RECOGNIZE AN APPROPRIATE REIMBURSEMENT FUNDS FOR THE CRISIS STABILIZATION UNIT.
YES, I MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THIS TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT THE DO PASS RECOMMENDATION.
JUSTICE MCMULLEN WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPLAIN? WELL, IT'S COME ACROSS US MANY TIMES AND IT IS TO APPROPRIATE A REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE CRISIS STABILIZATION WHICH WE ARE USUALLY REIMBURSED EVERY MONTH.
IT'S REPETITIVE, RIGHT? JUSTICE BLACKWOOD. YES.
I'D LIKE TO BE ADDED AS A SPONSOR.
YEAH, I'LL TAKE AMY DID YOU GET JUSTICE ELLIOTT, JUSTICE GREEN, JUSTICE LEWISON.
ALL RIGHT, UH, AMY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON 23-I-44? 14 AYES 0 NOES.
WE WILL SEND 23-I -44 TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT WITH THE DO PASS RECOMMENDATION.
AMY, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ 23-I-45? SUGGESTING THE MONTHLY RESIDENTIAL SANITATION COLLECTION RATE TO ACCOUNT FOR PROJECTED EXPENDITURES.
[INAUDIBLE] SEND TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT WITH A DO PASS.
UH, AND IT LOOKS LIKE IF I'M READING THIS, THERE'S AN AMENDMENT.
AM I READING THIS CORRECT? IT'S AN AMENDMENT.
UH, WHERE'S THE AMENDMENT? THE AMENDMENT IS ATTACHED TO THE OH, IT'S NOT ON HERE.
IT'S HARD. [INAUDIBLE] THEY MOVED IT TO 2029.
IS THAT THE AMENDMENT? YEAH, IF SOMEBODY AMENDED IT.
OKAY, WE'VE GOT TO PUT THE AMENDMENT ON THE ON THE TABLE BEFORE WE DISCUSS IT SO.
RIGHT I MOVE FOR THE AMENDMENT OF 23-I-45.
ALL RIGHT. A MOTION WAS MADE WITH THE SECOND THAT 23-I-45 IS AMENDED.
ALL RIGHT. WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPLAIN THE AMENDMENT? JUSTICE LEWISON. I WAS GOING TO ASK KATHY.
OKAY. COME UP HERE BECAUSE SHE BEGGED ME TO BE ABLE TO COME UP AND TALK, SO.
OKAY. KATHY BOTSFORD WITH THE SANITATION DEPARTMENT.
IT'S TIME FOR THE ENTERPRISE FUND.
AND THE AMENDMENT IS A REQUEST FOR $4.67 TO BE ADDED TO THE CURRENT RATE, WHICH WOULD BRING THE TOTAL TO $29.96 AND SHOULD, ACCORDING TO OUR EVERYTHING WE'VE LOOKED AT, GET THE FUND THROUGH THE NEXT 4 TO 5 YEARS, PROVIDED THERE ISN'T SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, EXTRAVAGANT.
JUST A QUESTION. DID I HEAR YOU RIGHT? DID YOU SAY $29.96? 69. BECAUSE IT'S 69 HERE.
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THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY.DON'T RUN OFF, KATHY, BECAUSE.
YES, I DID KIND OF ASK MR. HUTCH A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS.
WE ARE CONCERNED, OF COURSE, WITH AN INCREASE GOING TO THE CONSUMER.
I JUST KIND OF WANT TO KNOW WHAT I KNOW SOME THINGS THAT MAY HAVE CAUSED THE MAJOR INCREASES IN THE SANITATION, BUT THOSE RATES ARE STILL. CAN I CAN I GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT CONCERN WITH THAT.
UM HUM. THE SANITATION FUND, WHAT THEY'RE CALLING THE ENTERPRISE FUND.
THE ONLY THING THAT MONEY IS SPENT ON IS THE COLLECTION SANITATION.
AND WE CONTRACT THAT WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT.
THE REASON THE COURT IN THE PAST IS TAKING BIGGER JUMPS AND DONE IT FOR, SAY, $4 INSTEAD OF $2, $2 WILL GET YOU THROUGH NEXT YEAR AND WE'LL BE BACK IN HERE TALKING ABOUT IT.
WHAT ELSE HAPPENS AT THE END OF NEXT YEAR? WELL, IT'S AN ELECTION YEAR.
YOU DON'T WANT TO BE THINKING ABOUT THAT NOW.
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE MAD REGARDLESS.
I'M JUST TELLING YOU THE FACTS.
SOMEBODY'S GOING TO BE MAD REGARDLESS.
SORRY. THAT'S THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.
WHEN YOU PUSH THIS THING FURTHER AHEAD, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT AS OFTEN.
OR THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE OR PROBABLY KATHY [INAUDIBLE].
AND WE DO THE PROJECTIONS ALL THE WAY OUT BASED ON WHAT THEY ARE NOW.
THAT TAKES IT OFF YOUR PLATE FOR A WHILE.
I MEAN, THAT'S OR IF Y'ALL KNOW ANOTHER WAY, THAT'S GREAT, BE OPEN TO ANY KIND OF SUGGESTIONS.
I'LL GET YOU. THANK YOU, MR. KEITH. UM, SO I FULLY UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF THE ENTERPRISE FUND AND IT BEING A SELF-SUSTAINING FUND THAT MUST REMAIN SOLVENT.
UM, AND SO I DON'T SIT HERE TONIGHT IGNORANT OF THE FACT THAT WE ARE IN A PLACE NOW AFTER SIX YEARS WHERE THE ENTERPRISE FUND FOR SANITATION NEEDS AN INCREASE TO REMAIN SOLVENT.
UM, HOWEVER, AS I LOOK AROUND THE TABLE, MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE THE LEISURE ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE TO REPRESENT DISTRICTS THAT LIE WHOLLY OR NEAR WHOLLY WITHIN ONE OF THE CITIES.
CAN I? MAY I GET YOU? I'M SORRY. I'M SO SORRY.
SO AS I LOOK AROUND THE TABLE, MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE THE LEISURE OF REPRESENTING DISTRICTS ON THIS ISSUE THAT LIE WHOLLY OR NEAR WHOLLY WITHIN ONE OF THE CITIES.
THEREFORE, YOUR CONSTITUENTS ARE NOT IMPACTED BY THIS INCREASE AS THE CITY OF LITTLE ROCK NORTH, LITTLE ROCK, MAUMELLE, SHERWOOD, JACKSONVILLE. COLLECT YOUR CONSTITUENTS TRASH, NOT THE COUNTY, AND THEREFORE ARE NOT IMPACTED BY THIS INCREASE.
SO MY VOTE THIS EVENING IS NOT A REFLECTION ON THE NEED FOR THE RAISE IN THE RATE IN THE INCREASE, BUT IT'S A VOTE THAT IS ON THE ELECTORAL REALITY OF REPRESENTING A RURAL DISTRICT.
THANK YOU. JUST TWO QUICK QUESTIONS KATHY.
AND I SPOKE WITH YOU THE OTHER DAY.
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IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, SIR.YES. IT WOULD BRING THE RURAL RESIDENTS UP TO THE SAME RATE AS THE CITY OF LITTLE ROCK RESIDENTS.
ONCE A WEEK, TRASH PICKUP EVERY OTHER WEEK RECYCLING, RECYCLING.
OKAY. UNLIMITED LARGE YARD WASTE PICKUP.
OKAY. TO BULK ITEM PICKUPS A YEAR, 16 TIRES A YEAR.
AND THEN ALSO KEEP IN MIND THAT THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES LAST YEAR PICKED UP IN 2022, PICKED UP 900 DUMP SITES IN THE COUNTY AND SEVERAL TODAY. AS A MATTER OF FACT, OUR DRIVERS ARE OUT AND WE'VE ADDED LITTER TO THAT.
THEY'RE NOW PICKING UP LITTER ON THE ROADS.
LAST YEAR WE DID ALMOST 4000 SPECIAL BULK ITEM AND LIMB PICK UPS FOR THE RESIDENTS IN THE COUNTY.
OKAY. AND THE LAST QUESTION AND THEN I'LL GET BACK.
IF BY SOME MEANS THAT THIS IS NOT VOTED UP AND THIS ENTERPRISE FUND LACKS THE MONEY TO, I GUESS, FULLY FUNDED, WHAT HAPPENS? YOU DON'T HAVE SANITATION ANYMORE.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SIMPLE ANSWER.
JUSTICE DAVIS, I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS.
SO WHO CAN WE CALL TO CALL OUR OFFICE? THIS PROGRAM IS NEW.
THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS IS HELPING.
YES, PULASKI COUNTY IS HELPING.
WE'VE CONTACTED THE COMMUNITY SERVICE.
DOES LITTER PICK UP, SO WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH THEM.
SO. OKAY, THAT'S AWESOME TO HEAR.
IT STILL CONCERNS ME BECAUSE I DO COVER A LOT OF RESIDENTS WHO DON'T HAVE OR CONSTITUENTS, THEY DON'T HAVE THAT EXTRA MONEY TO ALWAYS I MEAN, THEY'RE STILL FIGHTING WITH TO GET WATER OUT THERE AND THEY DON'T HAVE AN EXTRA TEN, $15 A MONTH.
I DON'T KNOW HOW I CAN EXPLAIN THAT.
I WOULD VOTE. IS THERE THERE'S NOT ANY OTHER WAY AROUND THIS.
I MEAN, CAN WE GET A COPY OF THE CONTRACT JUST TO TO LOOK AT IT? THERE'S AN INCREASE NEEDED, BUT I ALSO REPRESENT A POPULATION OF PEOPLE THAT I DON'T KNOW WOULD BE VERY HAPPY WITH ME IF THIS HAPPENED.
WELL, THEN CAN WE FIND ANOTHER WAY OR A CHEAPER WAY OR DO THIS YEAR BY YEAR? TIPPING FEE COSTS GO UP, FUEL COSTS GO UP.
IT'S BASED ON THE CPI, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX, EVERYTHING.
I'M SAYING IF YOU ALL CAN COME UP WITH A BETTER WAY, WE'RE ALL FOR IT.
I'M NOT SMART ENOUGH TO FIGURE IT OUT.
THEY HAVEN'T BEEN NO ONE ELSE.
I'M JUST SAYING. BUT IF Y'ALL.
IF Y'ALL HAVE GOT SOMETHING, WE'RE ALL FOR IT.
AND IT DOES ABOUT EVERY 4 OR 5 YEARS BECAUSE NO ONE'S GOING TO BE HAPPY.
CAN WE TAKE AWAY CAN WE DO A AMENDMENT OR WHAT HAVE YOU? I KNOW THE RECYCLING MANDATED IS UPSET A LOT OF PEOPLE.
CAN WE TAKE THAT AWAY TO HELP THE COST OF THE INCREASED? DOES THAT AFFECT YOUR OVERALL COST? BECAUSE YOU CAN TAKE. YOU CAN YOU CAN IF YOU DON'T WANT THAT MANDATED, THAT'S UP TO THAT CORE.
I WOULD FEEL BETTER IN MY DISTRICT IF I COULD SAY I HAD TO DO THIS BECAUSE IT WAS A HALF TO COST.
THAT'S AN AMENDMENT AND THAT'S ALL I MEAN, FOR YOU ALL TO DECIDE, DOES THAT CHANGE YOUR OVERALL COST? YES, I THINK IT WOULD HAVE TO LOOK.
OKAY. I'M DOING WHAT YOU WOULD WANT JUST TO KEEP THINGS MOVING HERE.
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OKAY. I'D BE IN TROUBLE IF THEY CUT MY SERVICE OFF.JUSTICE MEDLOCK I SEE EVERYBODY.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND.
SO WE CONTRACT THIS OUT TO WASTE MANAGEMENT.
THEY SEND US A BILL AND WE PAY THAT BILL.
HAS IT ALREADY INCREASED AND THAT'S WHY THE $2 INCREASE AND THE OTHER INCREASE IS JUST A AN ESTIMATED INCREASE TO CARRY US THROUGH TO 27? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CPI WILL BE FROM YEAR TO YEAR.
[23-I-45 AN ORDINANCE ADJUSTING THE MONTHLY RESIDENTIAL SANITATION COLLECTION RATE TO ACCOUNT FOR PROJECTED EXPENDITURES.]
SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT AVERAGES AND GUESSTIMATE WHAT THAT WILL BE FOR THE FUTURE.SO WASTE MANAGEMENT, THEY DON'T JUST SEND US THEIR BILL LIKE THEIR INCREASE, LIKE THEY DON'T SEND US A BILL AND IT'S INCREASED BY THIS MONTH. WELL, IT'S YEAR TO YEAR.
AND THAT INCREASE IN THAT CONTRACT IS BASED ON THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX FOR THAT PREVIOUS YEAR.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, JUST LIKE REAL ESTATE CPI ON WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE.
THERE IS ONE FOR FOR WASTE MANAGEMENT.
SO WASTE MANAGEMENT SENDS US A BILL BASED ON.
I THINK I'D FEEL BETTER DOING IT SHORTER TERM THAN THAN.
I MEAN, I'M JUST THAT'S MY OPINION AND I DON'T KNOW, I MAY BE OFF ON THAT, BUT.
OR I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN LOOKING INTO BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE RURAL I'M IN CITY.
I'M JUST WONDERING AND I'M JUST THROWING THIS OUT THERE AS FAR AS TAKING THE RECYCLING PART OFF, DO WE DON'T WE OFFER A A SERVICE WHERE WE SET UP FACILITIES FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE RECYCLED ITEMS TO OCCASIONALLY TO.
THEY'VE ALREADY BOUGHT THOSE RECYCLING CARTS AND WE HAVE A CONTRACT FOR RECYCLING.
BUT IF YOU PULL THAT FUNDING OUT OF THAT CONTRACT AND THAT PART OF THE CONTRACT IS GONE.
GONE. SO I'M SAYING THERE'S YOUR THAT'S YOUR OPTION.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES, IT DOES MAKE IT OPTIONAL NOT TAKE IT AWAY.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. JUSTICE MCMULLEN, I THINK MY QUESTION IS ANSWERED TOO.
HOW MUCH DID WE PAY THE LAST YEAR? THE MIC SO WE CAN CATCH IT? IT'S THERE 80% OF THE BUDGET FOR THE SANITATION DEPARTMENT.
SO AND IT'S BASED ON THE NUMBER OF CUSTOMERS THAT THE COUNTY HAS.
EVERY CITIZEN IN THE COUNTY IS BILLED THE RATE.
AND IT CHANGES ON A MONTHLY BASIS.
AND THEN YOU AVERAGE IT OUT FOR A YEAR.
SO HOW MUCH DID WE PAY LAST YEAR AGAIN? YOU SAID $25? $25.02.
EACH CUSTOMER WAS BILLED $25.02 OKAY.
EVERY YEAR, RIGHT? ESTIMATED. OKAY.
THIS $29.69 WOULD PERHAPS BE STABLE OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME, WHICH IS THE ADVANTAGE RATHER THAN TO GAMBLE WITH RATHER, IT WOULD GO UP OR DOWN.
WELL, NO, YOU'RE GOING TO WHAT THE $29 IS BASED ON THE PROJECTIONS THAT $29.69 SHOULD GET YOU AROUND
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FIVE YEARS. THIS LAST TIME WE GOT SIX YEARS OF IT BEING $29 EACH YEAR.THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM. THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING $25 WHATEVER FOR THE LAST SIX.
OKAY. WHAT YOU DO WITH THIS FUND IS IN THE FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS, YOU HAVE CARRYOVER IN THAT FUND.
BUT IF WE DON'T VOTE FOR THIS, THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE NEXT YEAR.
YOU'LL BE HERE NEXT YEAR. WE'LL BE HERE NEXT YEAR.
MEANING THAT YEAH, THEY'RE GOING TO INCREASE AGAIN.
WE'RE BACK TO THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE.
OKAY. RIGHT. YOU'RE BACK TO THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE.
AND WHAT YOU WHAT YOU END UP WITH AND SOME OF Y'ALL BEEN AROUND IS FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS.
YOU'RE BUILDING YOU'RE BUILDING MONEY IN THAT FUND.
SO YOU HAVE A CARRYOVER AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
THANK YOU. SO I GOT A I GOT A COUPLE THOUGHTS HERE.
BUT I WILL SAY IN JACKSONVILLE, YOU KNOW, THE SANITATION RATE IS $15.50.
SO I LOOKED AT MY WATER BILL TO SEE WHAT IT WAS.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT WHEN WE DID THIS SIX YEARS AGO, I HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE DISABLED VETS, A LOT OF WIDOWERS CALL ME WANTING TO SEE HOW THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY SO MUCH IN SANITATION. AND IT WAS IT WAS MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS OF EXPLAINING AND DIALOG WITH A LOT OF MY CONSTITUENTS.
UM, THE ONE THING THAT I TALKED TO KATHY AND HUTCH ABOUT WAS, YOU KNOW, IS THERE A WAY TO OFFSET THE COST FOR THE, FOR THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE HAVE A SET INCOME.
SO WASTE MANAGEMENT PROVIDES A 96 GALLON TRASH CAN.
UM, AND MY QUESTION WAS, YOU KNOW, DO THEY PROVIDE A TRASH CAN THAT IS SMALLER THAT YOU COULD HAVE A REDUCED RATE ON? AND I DON'T KNOW IF KATHY HAS FIGURED THAT OUT YET OR NOT, BUT THAT WAS KIND OF THE AVENUE I WAS GOING WAS TO TRY AND HAVE MAYBE TWO DIFFERENT PRICE RATES FOR DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS.
AND TO ME, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF UNKNOWNS AND A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND A LOT OF WHAT CAN WE GET RID OF, WHAT CAN WE CHANGE, WHAT CAN WE DO? AND TO ME, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE JUST TAKING THE EASY ROAD AND GOING, WELL, LET'S JUST HAVE A BLANKET AND JUST DO WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS DONE. AND I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE DOING THAT AT THIS TIME.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF WE HAVE FOUND OUT, DO THEY PROVIDE A DIFFERENT GALLON TRASH CAN? I TALKED TO ONE OF THE MANAGERS ABOUT THAT THOSE CANS WOULD HAVE TO BE PURCHASED.
AND THE TRUCKS ARE SET UP TO PICK UP A 96 GALLON TRASH AND 96 GALLON RECYCLING.
SO THEY'D HAVE TO HAVE A DIFFERENT CLAW ON THEIR MACHINE TO PICK UP A SMALLER CAN BY HAND.
HE SAID THE WAY IT WOULD SLIP, THE WAY THEY'RE SET UP.
ABSOLUTELY. UM, USUALLY WHAT THEY DO IS THEY'RE THE SAME DIAMETER CAN.
THEY'RE JUST SQUATTY, THEY'RE NOT AS TALL.
AND SO THAT WAY, THE CLAW STILL REACHES AROUND THE SAME.
BUT IT'S ONCE AGAIN, IT COMES DOWN TO CAN YOU PURCHASE THEM? SO I LIVE IN MAUMELLE, BUT I'M TECHNICALLY IN NORTH LITTLE ROCK AND UP UNTIL ABOUT A FEW MONTHS AGO, WE HAD TO HAVE OUR OWN INDIVIDUALIZED TRASH BINS.
AND THE WAY THAT THEY PICK THEM UP WAS TO DRIVE SOMEBODY OVER THERE.
SO THAT'S HOW YOU WOULD DEAL WITH THE SMALLER CONTAINERS.
WELL, THEN ONCE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IN JACKSONVILLE, WE WENT TO A SMALLER CONTAINER.
SO THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT SIZES.
AND THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE SMALLER SIZES ARE THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T PRODUCE AS MUCH TRASH.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RATE IS ANYMORE FOR THOSE PEOPLE, BUT NOTHING'S PICKED UP BY HAND ANYMORE.
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EVERYTHING IS AUTOMATED.I JUST THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT SOMETHING HERE.
SO THIS IS FOR HUTCH OR WHOEVER CAN ANSWER.
I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN REPEATING THIS OVER AND OVER.
SO TODAY IF WE VOTE NOT TO DO THIS.
WHAT HAPPENS? WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP? YOU'LL FINISH OUT THE YEAR AND THEN YOU WON'T HAVE NO SERVICE.
THEN THAT CONTRACT WILL GO AWAY BECAUSE OF LACK OF FUNDING.
THE NON FUNDING CLAUSE, ISN'T IT? AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT PEOPLE WHAT DO WITH THEIR TRASH NOW.
YOU GOT TIME, Y'ALL YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS TONIGHT.
AS BAD AS I HATE TO SAY THAT AND DRAG SOMETHING OUT, I DON'T.
Y'ALL SHOULD REALLY LOOK FOR SEPTEMBER.
I'LL BE IN CANADA YOU CAN GET THE INFORMATION.
KATHY CAN GET THE INFORMATION TO Y'ALL.
AND WHAT IF YOU PULL OUT? RECYCLE? WHAT IF YOU DO THIS? WHAT IF YOU DO THAT? THEN Y'ALL CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING.
IF WE TABLE THIS UNTIL SEPTEMBER, THEN WHAT HAPPENS IN SEPTEMBER? WE DON'T HAVE ANY SERVICE. NO, NO, NO.
I'M JUST. I'M ASKING A QUESTION, AND I HAVE THE FLOOR SO YEAH. YEAH.
SO THE MONEY I'M SPENDING ON BUYING A SMALLER CAN, I CAN JUST PAY THIS BILL AND BE DONE.
AND IF WE CAN'T PAY FOR IT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET ANY PICKUPS.
RIGHT. OKAY. SO WE NEED TO VOTE FOR THIS, RIGHT? I CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE MY GARBAGE PICKUPS.
THE AMENDMENT THAT CHANGED IT FROM $27.02 TO $29.69.
IS THAT WHAT MADE THE CHANGE FROM APPROXIMATELY TWO YEARS TO APPROXIMATELY FIVE? OKAY.
SO WE DO HAVE A TWO YEAR OPTION ON THE TABLE THAT IS ONLY APPROXIMATELY $2 INCREASE.
STOWERS DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK? SO IN MAUMELLE SEVERAL YEARS AGO, THEY THE CITY COUNCIL, LOOKED AT FORCING EVERYONE INTO RECYCLING.
IN OTHER WORDS, WHETHER YOU USE THE SERVICE OR NOT, YOU HAD TO PAY FOR IT.
AND THERE WAS SUCH PUSHBACK FROM THE PEOPLE IN THE TOWN THAT THE CITY COUNCIL RELINQUISHED AND DID NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
WE STILL HAVE VOLUNTARY RECYCLING.
SO WHEN WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION SIX YEARS AGO ABOUT ADDING RECYCLING TO THE SANITATION SERVICES THAT WASTE MANAGEMENT PROVIDES TO THAT CONTRACT, I REMEMBER AT THAT TIME STATING, HEY, I'M ALL FOR VOLUNTARY RECYCLING, BUT I AM NOT FOR FORCING OUR RURAL CONSTITUENTS INTO PAYING FOR A SERVICE.
SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS IF THE CONTRACT WHAT THE DIFFERENCE WOULD BE IF
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THE RECYCLING SERVICES WERE REMOVED FROM THE WASTE MANAGEMENT CONTRACT.AND SO THEREFORE, I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE THIS ITEM FOR 30 DAYS TO ALLOW.
HUTCH AND HIS TEAM TO COME BACK AND TO LET US KNOW WHAT THE DIFFERENCE WOULD BE IF IF WE REMOVED THE RECYCLING SERVICES, THE FORCED RECYCLING SERVICES.
I GOT A QUESTION BECAUSE THIS IS AN AMENDMENT.
DON'T WE HAVE TO VOTE IT UP OR DOWN AND THEN GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL? OR WE CAN TABLE THE AMENDMENT? YOU'RE NOT REALLY TABLING AN AMENDMENT.
I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO TABLE THE ITEM, THAT'S FINE.
AND WHEN YOU'RE TABLING IT, YOU'RE NOT TABLING IT FOR A SET PERIOD OF TIME.
A TABLING REQUIRES A VOTE TO REMOVE FROM THE TABLE.
IF YOU WISH TO POSTPONE FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME, THEN THAT IS THE PROPER MOTION.
THANK YOU, MR. BLAGG, FOR THAT REMINDER.
SO MY MOTION IS TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM FOR 30 DAYS TO ALLOW US TO GET THE NUMBERS ON WHAT THE DIFFERENCE WOULD BE IF THE CITIZENS WERE NOT FORCED TO PARTICIPATE IN PAYING FOR THE RECYCLING.
MAY I ASK A QUESTION? I DON'T HAVE TO PLAY FOR THAT BLUE TUB IN MAUMELLE.
I DON'T EVER USE THAT THING THAT'S VOLUNTARY.
NOW THE BLUE TUB IS FOR YOUR TRASH.
NO I HAVE A GREAT BIG TRASH CAN, BUT I HAVE A LITTLE BLUE BOX.
YEAH. YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT NO I SECOND, I SECOND THAT MOTION.
OKAY. SO A MOTION WAS MADE WITH THE SECOND THAT WE, WE POSTPONE 23-I-45 AND I GUESS THAT'S NON-DEBATABLE.
AMY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR. MCCOY, WHAT WAS YOUR VOTE AGAIN? BECAUSE I GOT. YES, THANK YOU.
OKAY. SO WE HAVE 11 AYES, ONE NAY AND ONE ABSTENTION.
WITH WHAT AMY SAID IT WILL BE POSTPONED.
WITH WHAT AMY SAID, IT WILL BE POSTPONED.
IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MOVE TO ADJOURN. WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE BUSINESS PART IS IS ADJOURNED.
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