>> YOU HAVE ENOUGH. YES. WE'LL CALL OUR MEETING TO ORDER.
[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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WE'LL START OFF WITH AN INVOCATION BY JUSTICE STOWERS, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY JUSTICE BLACKWOOD.IF YOU CAN, WOULD YOU PLEASE STAND?
>> PRECIOUS, GRACEFUL, GOOD GOD.
WE THANK YOU FOR OUR COUNTRY, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS STATE, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS COUNTY.
WE SIT HERE TODAY AS PUBLIC SERVANTS AND DOING OUR BEST TO SERVE THOSE WHO HAVE PUT US IN THE POSITION OF MAKING IMPORTANT DECISIONS.
I ASK THAT YOU WOULD GIVE US WISDOM, GRACE, UNDERSTANDING, HUMILITY, AND HONOR AS WE CONDUCT OURSELVES IN THIS MEETING THIS EVENING.
ASK THESE THINGS IN YOUR NAME. AMEN.
>> THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT STOOD.
YOUR MICROPHONES WILL BE OFF, SO YOU CAN UTILIZE YOUR BUTTONS TONIGHT.
AMY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
>> YES, CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THAT?
>> MS. MCMULLEN? ABSENT. MS. MASSEY?
>> MS. GREEN? ABSENT. MR. ROBINSON?
>> MR. MCCOY? ABSENT. MR. STOWERS?
>> ELEVEN PRESENT, WE CAN DO THE BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY.
ITEM 6, IS THERE A RECOMMENDATION? NO. ITEM 5, I'M SORRY.
[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
I'M GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF, ITEM 5.>> A MOTION WAS MADE WITH A SECOND.
WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> THOSE OPPOSED? THE MINUTES HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED FROM OUR LAST MEETING.
PLEASE LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT JUSTICE MCCOY HAS ARRIVED.
I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 7, NEW BUSINESS.
[23-I-75 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 22-OR-45 (2023 ANNUAL BUDGET, PULASKI COUNTY, ARKANSAS) TO RECOGNIZE AND APPROPRIATE GRANT FUNDS FOR THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT]
AMY, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ 23-I-75?>> AN ORDINANCE AMENDING, ORDINANCE 22-OR-45 2023 ANNUAL BUDGET, PULASKI COUNTY, ARKANSAS, TO RECOGNIZE AND APPROPRIATE GRANT FUNDS FOR THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
>> I MAKE A MOTION WE SEND THIS ITEM TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT WITH THE DO-PASS RECOMMENDATIONS.
>> A MOTION WAS MADE WITH THE SECOND THAT WE SEND 23-I-75 TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT WITH A DO-PASS RECOMMENDATION.
JUSTICE STOWERS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPLAIN?
>> ACTUALLY OUR LONG-TIME AWESOME, DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, ANDY TRAFFANSTEDT, WHO HATES ATTENTION, HE IS HERE.
I WOULD PREFER THAT HE EXPLAIN THIS ITEM AS HE WILL DO A MUCH BETTER JOB THAN I.
>> THANK YOU. THIS IS OUR ANNUAL HOMELAND SECURITY GRANTS THAT WE RECEIVE.
THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT SEPARATE ONES.
ONE IS FOR WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, IT'S FOR $125,600 TO PURCHASE A NEW CHEMICAL DETECTION OF ICE.
IT'S A MASS SPECTROMETER AND ALSO TRAINING DOLLARS FOR A COUPLE OF TRAINING CLASSES OF BIOLOGICAL AND JOINT HAZARD ASSESSMENT TEAM.
THE OTHER GRANT IS FOR URBAN SEARCH AND RESCUE, IT'S $239,100.
DIFFERENT ITEMS ON THERE INCLUDE A CUTTING TORCH, SOME TRAINING CLASSES, TECHNICAL SEARCH CLASS, SEARCH CAMERAS TO SEARCH VOID SPACES AND BUILDING COLLAPSES, THAT TYPE OF THING, FLATBED EQUIPMENT TRAILER, A SHIRE RESTROOM TRAILER FOR WHEN WE DEPLOY OUT OF COUNTY OR EVEN LONG-TERM ON SCENES IN THE COUNTY, A PLOTTER PRINTER SO WE CAN PRINT OUT GRID MAPS DURING OUR SEARCHES.
THERE IS NO IMPACT ON THE COUNTY FUNDS AT ALL.
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THIS IS 100% GRANT MONEY AND IT'S JUST REIMBURSABLE DIRECTLY FROM HOMELAND SECURITY.>> THANK YOU. THERE DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE ANY QUESTION.
YOU JUST HIT YOUR LIGHTS. I STAND CORRECTED.
>> YES, I'D LIKE TO BE ADDED TO THIS.
ANY OF THIS EQUIPMENT, DO WE ALREADY HAVE IT ON HAND, DOES LITTLE ROCK ALREADY HAVE IT ON HAND?
>> THE MASS SPECTROMETER, LITTLE ROCK HAS ONE OF THOSE.
WMD ON THE TORCHES, WE ALREADY HAVE A COUPLE OF TORCHES.
WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDING ANOTHER ONE.
THE SEARCH CAMERAS, WE HAVE ONE SEARCH CAMERA, WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDING THREE MORE.
AGAIN, WE HAVE A BUILDING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR EVEN A TORNADO WHERE YOU HAVE WIDESPREAD DESTRUCTION.
ONE SINGULAR PIECE OF EQUIPMENT MAY BE UTILIZED AND YOU NEED ADDITIONAL TO MAKE SURE WE GET ALL THE LIVE HAZARDS ISSUES TAKEN CARE OF IN VARIOUS PARTS OF THE COUNTY.
>> THANK YOU. JUSTICE MCCOY, THANK YOU. JUSTICE CURRY?
>> JUSTICE ELLIOTT. I'M SORRY.
>> ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO BE ADDED? WE HAVE JUSTICE MEDLOCK.
THAT SEEMS TO BE IT. NO OTHER QUESTIONS.
AMY, PLEASE LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT JUSTICE MCMULLEN HAS ARRIVED.
THANK ANDY. NO OTHER QUESTIONS.
AMY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON 23-I-75?
>> TWELVE AYES. I'M SORRY. YOU'RE RIGHT IT'S 14.
I THOUGHT THAT [LAUGHTER] ONE ABSENCE.
>> TWENTY THREE, 75 WILL GO TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT WITH THE DO PASS RECOMMENDATION.
AMY, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ 23R77.
[23-I-77 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 22-OR-45 (2023 ANNUAL BUDGET, PULASKI COUNTY, ARKANSAS) TO RECOGNIZE AND APPROPRIATE REIMBURSEMENT FUNDS FOR THE CRISIS STABILIZATION UNIT.]
>> AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 22OR452023, ANNUAL BUDGET, PULASKI COUNTY, ARKANSAS, TO RECOGNIZE AN APPROPRIATE REIMBURSEMENT FUNDS FOR THE CRISIS STABILIZATION UNIT.
>> MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION CENTER FOR COM PORT.
>> A MOTION WAS MADE WITH A SECOND THEN WE SEND 23R77 TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT, WITH A DO PASS RECOMMENDATION.
JUSTICE MCCOY WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPLAIN?
>> THAT'S OUR NORMAL PREPARATION FOR THE CSU UNITS.
>> I LIKE TO BE ADDED TO THIS, PLEASE.
>> THANK YOU. JUSTICE MATLOCK, JUSTICE ELLIOT, ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO BE ADDED? JUSTICE CARIE.
>> IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, AMY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON 23R77.
>> THIRTEEN HI'S WE WILL SEND 23R77 TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT WITH A DO PASS RECOMMENDATION.
[23-I-81 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 17-OR-12 (PULASKI COUNTY PERSONNEL POLICY) AS AMENDED TO UPDATE THE APPROVED SALARY HIRING RANGES, MAKE TECHNICAL CORRECTIONS AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]
>> AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 17OR12 PLUS COUNTY PERSONNEL POLICY AS AMENDED TO UPDATE THE APPROVED SALARY HIRING RANGERS, MAKE TECHNICAL CORRECTIONS, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.
>> MOVE THAT WE SEND THIS ITEM TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT WITH THE DO PASS RECOMMENDATION.
>> A MOTION WAS MADE WITH THE SECOND THAT WE SEND 23I81 TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT WITH A DO PASS RECOMMENDATION.
JUSTICE TOWERS, ARE YOU? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT AN AMENDMENT IS ON THE TABLE AS WELL OR SHOULD BE ON THE TABLE?
>> IF YOU'LL GIVE ME THE LIBERTY TO SPEAK.
>> I'LL DO THE ORIGINAL FIRST.
>> YES. THERE IS AN AMENDMENT, IT IS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, IT IS A COMPROMISE AMENDMENT.
THE MAJOR THING THAT GAVE SOME HEARTBURN IN
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THIS ORDINANCE IS THE PURPOSE OF THE AMENDMENT.THEREFORE, I WOULD LIKE TO PUT THE AMENDMENT ON THE TABLE, AND I WOULD ENTERTAIN A SECOND.
>> A MOTION WAS MADE WITH A SECOND THAT THE AMENDMENT FOR 23I81 IS BEING CONSIDERED NOW.
I HEARD A SECOND. NOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPLAIN THE AMENDMENT?
>> YES, SIR. THIS IS A COMPROMISE AMENDMENT, THE BIGGEST CONCERN ABOUT THIS UPDATE TO OUR PERSONNEL POLICY WAS THAT WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE IN SOME DEPARTMENTS THAT DON'T HAVE THE DEGREE, THE WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE OTHER WORDS CERTIFICATE, THAT MATCHES THEIR JOB DESCRIPTION IN HR.
THIS AMENDMENT ALLOWS THEM A YEAR TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENT THAT WAS IN THEIR JOB DESCRIPTION WHEN THEY WERE HIRED TO OBTAIN THAT DEGREE, THAT CERTIFICATION, THAT ORDINATION.
THERE'S A QUESTION, JUSTICE MCMULLEN.
>> THE AMENDMENT THAT TOWERS REFERRED TO, IS THAT IN FRONT OF US NOW?
>> YES, MA'AM, IT'S ON YOUR DESK.
>> I SEE 612 MONTHS, MY QUESTION THERE IS, DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD ACTUALLY SUFFICE IN TERMS OF THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED?
>> YES, MA'AM. FIRST OF ALL, WHEN THOSE INDIVIDUALS WERE HIRED IN, THAT WAS PART OF THE JOB DESCRIPTION AND PART OF THE REQUIREMENTS SO WE'VE ALLOWED THEM TO RIDE FOR SOME TIME WITHOUT THAT.
WHAT WOULD HAPPEN AFTER THAT YEAR, IF THEY HAVE NOT OBTAINED THE CERTIFICATION OR THE APPROPRIATE CREDENTIALS FOR THAT ROLE, THEN THIS IS BASED ON RECOMMENDATION FROM JOHANSON, THEIR PAY WOULD BE REDUCED AFTER THAT YEAR TO 85% OF THE AMOUNT APPROVED BY THE QUORUM COURT FOR THAT POSITION.
IN OTHER WORDS, IF MR. FOGGOMAN HAD AN ATTORNEY.
>> I GOT YOU. JUST FOR THE SAKE OF TIME FOR BREVITY, WHAT I'M WANTING TO KNOW AT THIS POINT IS THAT TIME WOULD BEGIN AT THE BEGINNING OF 2024? IS THAT WHEN THE CLOCK WOULD START TICKING?
WELL, I WANT TO INTERRUPT THIS CONVERSATION.
I THINK IT PROBABLY WOULD BE BETTER FOR ADAM BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE, DID YOU ASSIST WITH THE AMENDMENT JUSTICE TOWERS.
>> YES BUT I WILL DEFER TO [OVERLAPPING]
>> CAN WE DEFER TO ALLOW MR. FOGGOMAN TO GIVE US TO?
>> WE MOST CERTAINLY CAN, AND ALSO THIS IS GOING TO GO TO THE THIRD READING. AM I CORRECT?
>> WE'LL GO TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT AND THEN WHAT BE READ THREE TIMES.
>> THAT'S FINE. I WANTED TO KNOW.
>> I THINK JUSTICE TOWERS CORRECTLY DESCRIBED THE AMENDMENT THAT THE GOAL IS TO PROVIDE A YEAR.
BEGINNING ON JANUARY 1, 2024, THAT'S WHEN THE CLOCK STARTS, EVEN THOUGH THIS MATTER WILL BE CONSIDERED ON THREE READINGS WHICH PUSH IT IN TO ABOUT FEBRUARY.
BUT IF SOMEBODY'S POSITION REQUIRED THEM TO OBTAIN A CERTIFICATION OR LICENSE AFTER THEY WERE HIRED THEN THEY WOULD HAVE UNTIL 12, 31 OF '24 TO OBTAIN THAT CERTIFICATE OR LICENSE.
>> WHAT IF THEY'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS?
>> AS OF 12, 31 THEN JANUARY 1, THERE WOULD BE A 15% PAY REDUCTION BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATION OF JOHANSON, BUT ONCE THEY OBTAIN THAT CERTIFICATE OF LICENSE, IT AUTHORIZES THE PAYBACK AT 100%.
>> HOW SOON WOULD THAT GO UP? I KNOW YOU SAID ONCE.
>> AS SOON AS THE DEPARTMENT NOTIFIES HR OF THE CERTIFICATE OR A LICENSE AND THE PAPERWORK IS PROCESSED THROUGH PAYROLL.
>> WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH ANY TYPE OF BUDGETING PROCESS.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT EVERY DEPARTMENT OR MOST OF THE DEPARTMENTS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR VERIFYING CREDENTIALS,
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WHATEVER CREDENTIAL THAT'S NECESSARY, BE IT THE DEGREE OF WHATEVER THE REASON THE RESPONSIBILITY IS TO DEPARTMENT LEVEL, IS THAT CORRECT, IN MOST INSTANCES?>> ULTIMATELY, YEAH. HR IS A RECORD KEEPER, AND THEY ARE THE FIRSTLINE OF DEFENSE OFTEN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING, AND THEY FILL THAT ROLE BY KEEPING RECORDS.
>> BUT EVEN THOUGH HR IS JUST A RECORD KEEPER, DEPARTMENTS ARE REQUIRED, IF THERE WAS SOMETHING AN ADVERSE SITUATION THAT OCCURRED AND SOMETHING HAPPENED WHERE I GUESS THE COUNTY WAS SUED, ULTIMATELY, THE COUNTY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT ALLOWS SUIT EVEN THOUGH THE CREDENTIALING IS LEFT TO DEPARTMENTS IN THE HR DEPARTMENT IS JUST THE TO KEEPER OF RECORDS THEN STILL THE COUNTY IS HELD RESPONSIBLE.
>> THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE, YES.
>> COUNTY AS A WHOLE. THANK YOU. JUSTICE DAVIS.
>> I DON'T KNOW WHO CAN ANSWER THIS.
WHY WERE THESE EMPLOYEES HIRED IN THE FIRST PLACE IF THEY WEREN'T QUALIFIED FOR THEIR POSITIONS, THEY WERE APPLYING FOR IT.
>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. SO MANY OF THE JOB DESCRIPTION REQUIRES THAT THE CERTIFICATION BE OBTAINED WITHIN A PERIOD OF TIME AFTER THE HIRE DATE AND SO THERE ARE POSITIONS WHERE THEY'RE GIVEN A TRAINING PERIOD OR A CERTIFICATION AND LICENSING PERIOD OF SIX MONTHS TO 12 MONTHS TO ACCOMPLISH THOSE THINGS.
BUT IT CREATES A CHALLENGE WHEN MAYBE THAT INFORMATION ISN'T REPORTED OVER TO HR.
>> IT LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE DROPPED THE BALL, THAT'S A LOT THEM DELINQUENT EMPLOYEES.
IT'S A WHOLE PAGE OF ALL DELINQUENT.
>> [LAUGHTER] YEAH. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, JUSTICE DAVIS?
>> YEAH. NOW SOME OF THESE PEOPLE LIKE FOR INSTANCE, CARLO BURNETT, WHO IS ON HERE AND IT'S SHOWING DELINQUENT.
SHE WAS THE LAWYER FOR THE COUNTY FOR 25 YEARS.
SHE'S OBVIOUSLY GOT HER LAW DEGREE AND SHE OBVIOUSLY HAS A DEGREE.
>>I DON'T HAVE THE BENEFIT OF THE LIST.
SHE CALLED ME TODAY AND SAID SHE HASN'T TURNED IN HER DEGREE WHEN SHE GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE.
SHE HASN'T FOUND IT AND SO SHE'S GOT TO GO LOOK FOR IT AND HAVE THEM.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE THAT.
I THINK THAT ARE ON HERE, THESE LISTS.
IT'S NOT JUST THAT WE HAVE A BUNCH OF DELINQUENT PEOPLE THAT ARE HIRED.
I THINK THAT WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT IN THAT TYPE OF SITUATION ALSO, THAT HAVE WORKED FOR THE COUNTY FOR A LONG TIME AND OBVIOUSLY OUR LAWYERS OR WHATEVER, [LAUGHTER] BUT JUST DON'T HAVE MAYBE HAVE TO WRITE TO THEIR SCHOOLS, HAVE TO CALL AND GET THEIR DEGREES BECAUSE IT'S BEEN 20, 30 YEARS.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THAT TO TURN THEM ALL IN.
>> WELL, JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT JUSTICE BLACKWOOD SAID, IN COUNSELING, THEY SAY IF IT'S NOT WRITTEN DOWN, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
I'M WONDERING IF SOMETHING CAME UP ABOUT CREDENTIALS THAT'S NOT FILED IN THE RECORDS.
I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I'M NOT DISPUTING ANYBODY WHAT THEY'RE SAYING, BUT IF IT'S NOT VERIFIABLE, IS THAT FAIR TO THE COUNTY?
I'M JUST SAYING THERE'S [OVERLAPPING].
>> NO, I'M NOT LAYING BLAME ON ANYBODY.
[OVERLAPPING] MAYBE I'M JUST TALKING OUT LOUD.
>> I'LL ADD A THOUGHT IF YOU DON'T MIND, YOU JUST USE THE WORD VERIFIABLE AND I THINK IT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN VERIFIED AND VERIFIABLE.
IF IT'S VERIFIED, HR HAS THE RECORD.
IF IT'S VERIFIABLE, MAYBE LIKE MS. BURNETTE.
>> SHE HAS A LAW DEGREE. SHE HAS AN UNDERGRAD DEGREE.
IT'S JUST NOT RECORDED IN THE RECORDS.
>> YEAH. I'LL PIGGYBACK ON WHAT A COUPLE OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID.
IT'S WELL-DOCUMENTED THAT MS. BURNETTE IS AN ATTORNEY AND SHE'S A LICENSED ATTORNEY, BUT IN THE POSITION THAT SHE'S IN, IT ALSO REQUIRES THAT SHE HAVE A LEVEL FOR SENIOR APPRAISER LICENSE DESIGNATION BY IAAO,
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IFA, OR ANOTHER APPRAISAL INSTITUTE.THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH JOHANSON AND HAVE JOBS TIED TO CERTAIN CERTIFICATIONS, DEGREES, ETC, THAT HR IS ABLE TO QUANTIFY THAT THAT IS OBTAINED OR IS OBTAINED WITHIN THE 6-12 MONTH TIME PERIOD.
I GUESS WHAT IT IS CONCERNING TO ME HERE, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING TO GIVE PEOPLE 12 MONTHS IF THIS AMENDMENT PASSES, IS THAT WE'VE GOT A, WE'VE GOT A FOUR-PAGE SPREADSHEET HERE OF ABOUT 40 PEOPLE WHO ARE DELINQUENT TO THAT 6-12 MONTH PERIOD OR THAT HAS NOT BEEN TURNED IN AND REPORTED TO HR, WHICH IS THUS THE OTHER REASON THAT WE'RE HERE.
BECAUSE IN ANY ORGANIZATION HUMAN RESOURCES IS THE RECORDER AND THE QUALIFIER OR THE RECORDER OF THE QUALIFICATION.
I THINK WE'RE BEING FAIR WITH THE AMENDMENT TO ALLOW FOLKS TO GET THEIR HOUSE IN ORDER.
I DON'T THINK I'LL USE THE EXAMPLE OF MR. FOGGAMAN.
MR. FOGGAMAN HAD HIRED SOMEBODY INTO AN ATTORNEY POSITION THAT DIDN'T HAVE THEIR LAW DEGREE YET, BUT WE'RE GOING FOR THE BAR IN THREE MONTHS.
THEY PASSED THE BAR AND THERE WAS A 3-6 MONTH WAITING PERIOD.
WELL THEN THEY WOULD HAVE QUALIFIED BUT IF THAT PERSON FAILED THE BAR AND THEN TOOK IT AGAIN AND FAILED THE BAR BUT YET WE'RE STILL PAYING THEM 12, 18 MONTHS LATER FOR A ROLE THAT IS THAT OF SOMEBODY WHO IS A LICENSED ATTORNEY, THEN I THINK I GO BACK TO WHAT MR. KEITH SAID, WE HAVE A LIABILITY ISSUE AS A COUNTY.
I THINK THE AMENDMENT, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT WAS A COMPROMISE.
SOME DEPARTMENT HEADS, ELECTED OFFICIALS RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT THE OVERALL ORDINANCE, THE BIGGER ORDINANCE.
THIS WAS WHAT WAS AGREED UPON AS A SUITABLE COMPROMISE. I YIELD.
>> THANK YOU. JUSTICE TOWERS, JUSTICE CATS.
>> YEAH, I'M UNFAMILIAR WITH THIS CREDENTIAL.
YOU MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS.
OBVIOUSLY, A BACHELOR'S DEGREE CANNOT BE OBTAINED IN A YEAR.
WHAT'S THE TIMELINE ON SOME OF THESE THINGS IF THEY HAVE NOT IF THEY'RE NOT ALREADY COMPLETED OR NEARLY COMPLETED AND HOW MANY INDIVIDUALS WILL THAT AFFECT?
>> GENERALLY SPEAKING, WITH RESPECT TO THE BACHELOR'S DEGREE OR EDUCATION REQUIREMENTS, THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL AUTHORIZATION THAT THE ELECTED OFFICIAL CAN RECOGNIZE TO HR IN WRITING THAT THEY HAVE EQUIVALENT EXPERIENCE OR NECESSARY NECESSARY AND SATISFACTORY EXPERIENCE TO PERFORM THE DUTIES OF THE JOB.
THAT MAY BE AS SIMPLE AS WRITING AN EMAIL OR FILLING OUT, I THINK THERE'S A FORM IDENTIFIED THAT ACKNOWLEDGES THAT BASED ON THE PERFORMANCE OF THE JOB, THAT THEY'VE DEMONSTRATED THE CAPACITY TO DO THE JOB.
THAT WOULD TAKE AS LITTLE AS THE TIME NECESSARY TO FILL OUT THE FORM.
I THINK THE APPRAISER CERTIFICATIONS, EACH LEVEL REQUIRES A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF EXPERIENCE BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE LEVEL ONE APPRAISER CAN BE CERTIFIED THROUGH THE ASSESSMENT COORDINATION DIVISION, WHICH IS THE STATE DEPARTMENT THAT EXISTS TO HELP GUIDE AND TRAIN ASSESSORS AND THAT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED OVER ABOUT A SIX MONTH PERIOD.
>> THEN THE AMENDMENT, I REALLY HAVEN'T READ IT BECAUSE IT JUST GOT PUT HERE BUT DOES THAT REFLECT THAT SORT OF LOOPHOLE WHERE YOU CAN BE CHECKED OFF BY YOUR ADVISOR OR YOUR [OVERLAPPING].
I'M GOING TO APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I DON'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE FORM BUT THERE IS RECOGNITION OF THE FORM.
>> THANK YOU, JUSTICE CATS, JUSTICE MASSEY.
>> THANK YOU. YOU MENTIONED WHAT THE LEVEL ONE REQUIREMENTS ARE, SO-TO-SPEAK AND THAT'S RELATIVELY EASY.
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SINCE WE'RE ON SOME OF THE INDIVIDUALS.>> YOU'RE GOING TO TEST MY KNOWLEDGE HERE.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT EACH COUNTY IS REQUIRED BY LAW TO HAVE, IF THEY ARE PERFORMING THEIR OWN ASSESSMENTS, THEN THEY'RE OBLIGATED BY LAW TO HAVE ONE LEVEL FOUR APPRAISER THAT'S EMPLOYED.
I'M NOT THE EXPERT IN THE VARIOUS LAWS.
>> IN OTHER WORDS, I WAS WONDERING IF IT'S GOING TO TAKE SIX MONTHS FOR THAT FOR THEM TO COMPLETE THEIR REQUIREMENTS OR IS IT GOING TO BE LONGER FOR THEM TO BE COMPLETE THEIR REQUIREMENTS?
>> IT WOULD DEPEND ON THE LEVEL OF EXPERIENCE AND TRAINING AND EXISTING CERTIFICATIONS THAT THEY HAVE CURRENTLY.
I'M THE ONE MAKING THIS UP, SO BEAR WITH ME.
IF SOMEBODY HAS A LEVEL ONE APPRAISER AND THEY'RE HIRED INTO A POSITION THAT'S PAYING AS A LEVEL FOUR APPRAISER, OBVIOUSLY, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT JUMP IN A YEAR.
>> THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING WITH IT.
JUSTICE TOWERS PRETTY MUCH ALREADY STATED WHAT I WAS GOING TO ORIGINALLY COMMENT ON WAS THE FACT THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE DEGREES, BUT DO THEY HAVE THE QUALIFICATIONS REQUIRED IN REGARDS TO THE CERTIFICATION? THAT'S THE QUESTION AND THAT'S THE CATCH AND NOT SO MUCH ABOUT HOW MANY DEGREES THEY HAVE, BUT DO THEY HAVE THE CERTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS POSITION? I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE THE ISSUE.
I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, THESE PEOPLE WERE HIRED IN AND THEY KNEW THAT THEY HAD TO HAVE THIS RIGHT OR SO WHAT HAPPENED? I MEAN, WELL, YOU ALL DON'T KNOW BUT I MEAN, I GUESS IT WAS LIKE ALL DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT, I'M GOOD WITH IT BECAUSE I CAN I CAN SEE MYSELF HIRING SOMEONE SAYING, WELL, YOU'RE SMART ENOUGH, YOU'RE DOING THE JOB.
DON'T WORRY ABOUT CERTIFICATION.
IS THAT WHAT HAPPENED HERE? I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S RIGHT.
I'M JUST SAYING DOES THAT KIND OF WHAT HAPPENED WITH?\.
>> I THINK THOSE QUESTIONS WOULD HAVE TO BE ANSWERED ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS FRANKLY
HOLD ON BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY THE FIRST SPEAKER'S, TRYING TO GET THE FIRST TERM.
JUSTICE CURLIE, NOT FIRST-TERM FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T SPOKEN.
HOW OFTEN IS THIS REPORT DONE? WHEN WAS THE LAST ONE PRIOR TO NOW?
>> IF YOU'RE POINTING TO THE REPORT, PEOPLE THAT HR DOESN'T HAVE ALL OF THE RECORDS ON.
>> DUSTIN SEEMS TO HAVE AN ANSWER.
>> THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IT'LL COME OUT QUARTERLY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THEIR REQUEST [INAUDIBLE].
>> THAT WAS WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.
>> I THINK MS. MASSEY, I'LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
THE REASON WE'RE IN THIS SITUATION AND THE REASON WE HAVE THIS SPREADSHEET TO DELINQUENCIES, MULTIPLE PAGES BEFORE US, IS BECAUSE IT'S BEEN DONE IN THE DEPARTMENTS.
IT'S BEEN DONE IN THE ELECTED OFFICIALS OFFICES.
THERE HAS NOT BEEN A REPOSITORY IN HR TO COLLECT PROOF OF DEGREES, LICENSES, AND CERTIFICATIONS AS REQUIRED BY THE JOB DESCRIPTION. I YIELD.
>> OKAY. THANK YOU. [BACKGROUND] JUSTICE MCMULLEN?
>> THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, ALTHOUGH I HAD TO WAIT UNTIL THE OTHERS SPOKE.
IT'S QUITE CLEAR THAT THIS IS A NEW METHOD OF RECORD KEEPING BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALL DELINQUENTS HERE.
THE ONLY THING THAT I SEE AN EXCEPTION OF THAT WOULD BE WHERE WE HAVE SOMETHING ABOUT JOB DESCRIPTION UPDATE WILL REMOVE REQUIREMENTS.
THEY'RE SAYING THAT IT'S GOING TO REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT OF THE BOILERS OPERATOR LICENSE.
THAT'S THE WAY I'M INTERPRETING IT, BUT IT'S QUITE CLEAR ANYTIME YOU HAVE THIS MINUTE DELINQUENTS, AND THAT'S ALL WE HAVE, ADAM, ON HERE, THAT IT HAS NOT BEEN REPORTED THIS WAY BEFORE.
>> THANK YOU, JUSTICE MCMULLEN.
WE ARE GOING TO VOTE ON 23-I-81 AS AMENDED.
[OVERLAPPING] WE'VE GOT THAT PAST THE AMENDMENT.
WE'RE VOTING ON THE AMENDMENT.
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AMY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?>> THIRTEEN AYES, 23-I-81 HAS BEEN AMENDED. JUSTICE TOWERS?
>> I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SEND THE ITEM TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT AS AMENDED.
>> A MOTION WAS MADE WITH A SECOND THAT WE SEND 23-I-81 TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT AS AMENDED.
ANY QUESTIONS? AMY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
>> THIRTEEN AYES. WE WILL SEND 23-I-81 TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT AS AMENDED.
AMY, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ 23-I-82?
[23-I-82 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 22-OR-45 (2023 ANNUAL BUDGET, PULASKI COUNTY, ARKANSAS) TO APPROPRIATE HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT (HUD) ADMINISTRATIVE FEES TO THE GENERAL FUND FOR THE COMMUNITY VILLAGE PROJECT.]
>> AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 22-OR-45 2023 ANNUAL BUDGET PULASKI COUNTY, ARKANSAS, TO APPROPRIATE HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT, HUD, ADMINISTRATIVE FUNDS TO THE GENERAL FUND FOR THE COMMUNITY VILLAGE PROJECT.
>> I MOVE THAT WE SEND IT TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT WITH A DO-PASS RECOMMENDATION.
>> A MOTION WAS MADE WITH A SECOND THAT WE SEND 23-I-82 TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT WITH A DO-PASS RECOMMENDATION.
JUSTICE LEWISON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPLAIN?
>> YES, I WAS GOING TO LET HUTCH COME UP AND EXPLAIN THIS.
>> WORKING THROUGH SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAD WITH HOUSING AND COMMUNITY SERVICES, WE FOUND OUT THAT WE HAD ADMIN FEES THAT HAD BEEN COLLECTED OVER THE YEARS AND PUT IT INTO AN ACCOUNT.
WHILE MEETING WITH HUD, THEY SAID YOU EITHER HAVE TO COME UP WITH A WAY TO USE THOSE MONIES BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR OR GIVE THEM BACK.
I'M NOT MUCH ON GIVING THE MONEY BACK TO THE FEDS.
DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, AND THE GUY, I THINK HIS NAME WAS BRIAN, I THINK IT OUGHT TO BE BURNED IN MY HEAD BY NOW AS MANY TIME I SAT AT THE TABLE WITH HIM, BUT HE SAID, "I HAVE READ IN THE PAPER, YOU'LL HAVE THIS HOMELESS VILLAGE THING." HE SAID THAT'D BE PERFECT, AND I CAN SUPPORT THAT.
YOU'VE GOT TO DO ME A LETTER, WHICH SHOULD BE IN YOUR PACKET I ATTACHED TO IT.
WE DID HIM A LETTER SAYING, "HEY, CAN WE USE THE 261,000 FOR THAT?" HE SAID, "I WILL APPROVE THAT." I WENT TO A COMMITTEE IN DC, AND THEY SAID, YES, AND THEY SEND IT BACK.
I'M SORRY FOR BEING LATE IN THE YEAR, BUT WE FINALLY GOT THERE.
YOU'LL SEE THE DATES ON THIS THING. IT WAS TOO LATE.
THEY GET IT AT THE LAST MEETING.
WE CAN'T USE IT FOR ANYTHING ELSE SO WE EITHER DO THIS, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER PROGRAMS OR WE GIVE IT BACK TO THE FEDS.
[BACKGROUND] JUSTICE MCMULLEN?
>> CAN YOU GET A LITTLE CLOSER TO YOUR MICROPHONE, PLEASE?
>> HUTCH, THAT ALMOST SOUNDED LIKE A WORD SANDWICH TO ME.
>> HOW DO YOU NEED ME TO EXPLAIN IT?
>> JUST HOLD YOUR HORSES AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, SPECIFICALLY.
FIRST OF ALL, THE COMMUNITY VILLAGE PROJECT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT ALL OF US ARE FAMILIAR WITH?
>> YES, MA'AM. IT'S THE JUDGE'S [OVERLAPPING]
>> HOMELESS VILLAGE. I DON'T THINK WE ARE SUPPOSED TO SAY THAT.
I DON'T KNOW THE PROPER WORD. [OVERLAPPING] HOMELESS VILLAGE.
I'M FAMILIAR. THAT HAS MET WITH SOME DISCUSSION BEFORE.
THIS IS TO APPROPRIATE HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT ADMINISTRATIVE FEES.
THERE'S NOT REALLY A PROBLEM WITH THIS AS FAR AS THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES GOING TO THE GENERAL FUND FOR THIS BEING APPROPRIATED?
>> RIGHT. THERE'S NOT ANOTHER PLACE TO PUT IT.
I MEAN, IT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE GENERAL FUND, BUT I'LL HAVE TO SHOW THEM RECEIPTS FOR 261,000, AND WHERE IT WAS SPENT ON THAT PROJECT.
>> ALL RIGHT THEN. WHEN IS THAT GOING TO BE COMPLETED?
>> I MEAN, WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE STARTED?
>> THEY'VE STARTED IT. THEY'VE STARTED THE DIRT WORK. THEY'VE BEEN DOING THAT.
>> WHERE IS IT LOCATED, HUTCH?
>> DO YOU KNOW THE ADDRESS? [BACKGROUND] I COULD DRIVE YOU TO IT,
[00:35:07]
BUT I COULDN'T TELL YOU THE ADDRESS.>> BUT IT'S IN SOUTHWEST LITTLE ROCK.
LET ME SEE THE WORD FOR IT, IT'S A COMMUNITY VILLAGE, HOW MANY, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT?
>> IT'S GOING TO BE TINY HOMES, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ADJOINED.
THOSE ARE REAL CUTE, AND I SAW SOMEBODY THERE.
HOW MANY WILL THERE BE? [BACKGROUND] YES, THAT REALLY IS.
WE'RE STARTING OUT WITH HOW MANY?
>> FOR THE VERY FIRST PHASE WE ARE STARTING OUT WITH 20.
>> THAT IS ON CHICO SOUTHWEST LITTLE ROCK.
>> ONE BIG ROOM, KITCHEN, BATHROOM, BEDROOM, LIVING ROOM.
>> NO, YOU NEED TO GO YOUTUBE AND LOOK AT THE ONE THEY HAVE IN AUSTIN, TEXAS.
>> THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR I FORGOT HOW MANY YEARS ARE THE POSTER CHILD FOR IT? YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR BATHROOM AND KITCHEN. YOU HAVE A LIVING AREA.
WHAT THIS FORCES YOU TO DO IS YOU CAN'T JUST LOCK YOURSELF IN YOUR HOUSE AND STAY THERE.
IT FORCES THEM INTERACT WITH OTHER PEOPLE SO THERE'S A COMMUNAL KITCHEN, THERE'S COMMUNAL BATHROOMS, THERE'S THAT DEAL.
>> I SEE. FOR THE ACCOMMODATIONS ON THERE.
>> NOW I'M GOING TO ASK YOU SOMETHING YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER.
THERE ARE SOME OTHER TINY HOMES IN LITTLE ROCK I WAS LOOKING AT SOME THE OTHER DAY.
DO YOU KNOW ADAM FOR WHETHER OR NOT THAT IS THE SAME MODEL? IN OTHER WORDS, THAT THE COUNTY IS BASING IT ON THE SAME MODEL.
ALL RIGHT, THEN. AND THEY WILL HAVE TO PAY.
>> THAT RENT WILL NOT BE SUBSIDIZED?
>> NO. EVENTUALLY THIS ISN'T RUN BY THE COUNTY.
THIS IS RUN BY OUR BOARD AND IT SUPPORTS ITSELF.
>> THE RENT IS NOT SUBSIDIZED.
IT WILL BE REGULAR RENT FOR WHAT IT IS THEY'RE RENTING.
>> I THINK THAT DOWNEY HOME THERE IS 300-400 SQUARE FEET IN THAT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THEY PAY THE RENT AND YOU SHOULD STILL HAVE A GREAT BIG PACKET ON THAT STUFF THAT BROKE ALL THAT DOWN.
I DON'T REMEMBER ALL THE DETAILS.
>> BUT YOU'RE DOING VERY WELL.
DO YOU HAVE TO BE IN A CERTAIN INCOME BRACKET?
>> YOU HAD TO BE HOMELESS FOR A YEAR.
>> THERE YOU GO, THAT WOULD BE [OVERLAPPING]
>> HOMELESS, BUT THAT'S NOT INCOME, SO WE'RE ASSUMING THEY ARE DEFINITELY BELOW.
WHERE DOES THEIR MONEY SUPPOSED TO COME FROM TO AFFORD THE HOME?
>> [INAUDIBLE] THEY DON'T WORK EITHER.
>> IT'S NOT SO MUCH THAT IS SUBSIDIZED, BUT THE RENT IS GOING TO BE LOW.
>> ARE WE IN A HURRY RIGHT NOW?
>> I'M NOT SURE WHY WE ARE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO AT THIS POINT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS THAT I PRESENTED TO YOU.
>> I SUSPECT WE CAN GET WITH JUSTIN TO GET SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE VILLAGE AND MAYBE EVEN HAVE SOMEONE TO DO A PRESENTATION TO THE QUORUM COURT, IF NOT, BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, FIRST OF NEXT YEAR, IF WE COULD.
>> I JUST WANTED TO SAY ONE OTHER THING.
I THINK THAT THEY DID A VERY GOOD OF CLARIFYING THAT, EXPLAINING IT.
WE DO HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION HERE, SO I'M TIM.
>> [LAUGHTER] CAN YOU HOLD DOWN? SINCE I'M STILL SITTING HERE AS THE CHAIR, I HAVE SOME OTHER LIGHTS AND WE'LL RECOGNIZE YOU, BUT I HAVE SOME OTHER LIGHTS, SO I WILL JUST AS CAPS.
>> QUICK COMMENT, HUTCH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.
THIS IS A GREAT USE OF THE FUNDS. I APPRECIATE IT.
>> I APPRECIATE IT, BUT WE GOT LUCKY ON IT.
>> YES, I WAS GOING TO SHARE OUT IT'S BEEN SEVERAL MONTHS AGO THAT THEY HAD THE HEARING DOWN AT LONELY BAPTIST CHURCH AND I DID GO I THINK SEVERAL OF US WOULD CARE AT THAT PRESENTATION.
IT IS A GREAT USE OF FUNDS TO ASSIST WITH THAT PROJECT, ESPECIALLY IN VIEW OF THE HOMELESS POPULATION ISSUE.
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>> I JUST WANT TO LET HER BY KNOW IF YOU HADN'T SAW THAT PICTURES OR A MOVIE OR WELL, NOT ME, READ THE SLIDES AND EVERYTHING.
GO ON INTERNET AND TAKE A LOOK AND YOU'D BE SURPRISED HOW IT LOOKS.
THE YOUTUBE VIDEO. THANK YOU, JUSTICE ELLIOT. JUSTICE BLACKWOOD.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO BE ADDED AS A SPONSOR.
>> WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO BE ADDED AS A SPONSOR? JUSTICE MATHEW?
>> JUSTICE CURRY, JUSTICE CAPS?
>> JUSTICE MCMULLEN? JUSTICE TOWERS?
>> YES. I WAS WATCHING THE NEWS THIS AFTERNOON AND I'VE SEEN IT SEVERAL TIMES ON THE NEWS.
THE SIDEWALKS OF SAN FRANCISCO AND SEVERAL OF OUR OTHER CITIES LINED WITH TENTS AND PEOPLE SLEEPING ON THE STREET.
THE ECONOMIC AND COMMUNITY IMPACT THAT HAS.
I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING HERE THAT'S PROACTIVE.
WE WERE ABLE TO UTILIZE THE ARPA FUNDS TO AS SEED MONEY FOR THIS.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE HOMELESS, WHO ARE VETERANS.
A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE HOMELESS BECAUSE THAT'S JUST CARDS THAT LIFE DEALT THEM.
I THINK SOMETIMES WE HAVE A TENDENCY TO THINK THAT PEOPLE JUST WANT TO BE DESTITUTE.
I APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK THAT THE ADMINISTRATION, ADAM, JUSTIN, MIKE, OTHERS HAVE DONE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A PLACE THAT PEOPLE CAN NOT JUST GO TO, BUT HOPEFULLY CAN BETTER THEMSELVES IN LIFE AND INTERACT WITH OTHERS AND IN GROW AS A PERSON, AND THAT WE DON'T HAVE TENT CITIES IN DOWNTOWN LITTLE ROCK LIKE SAN FRANCISCO HAS. I YIELD.
IF THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, AIMEE, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON 23I82.
>> ELEVEN HI'S, WE WILL SEND 23I82 TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT WITH THE DO PASS RECOMMENDATION.
IF THERE HAS BEEN A LATE FILING, IS THERE RECOMMENDATION?
[Additional Item]
MOTION WAS MADE WITH THE SECONDARY.AMY, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ 23I84.
>> AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 22OR45 2023 ANNUAL BUDGET PHILOSOPHY COUNTY, ARKANSAS, TO APPROPRIATE FUNDS FROM THE SPAY NEUTER FUND INTO THE COMPTROLLER SPAY NEUTER DEPARTMENT.
>> I MOVE FOR THE STUDENT TO THE FULCRUM COURT WOULD DO FUN TOO FAST STUPID.
>> NOW, AFTER MUCH, NOW WE WILL SEE A MOTION WAS MADE WITH THE SECONDARY WE SENT 23I84 TO THE FOUR CORE UNQUOTE WITH THE DO PASS RECOMMENDATION.
JUSTICE BLACKWOOD WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPLAIN?
>> YES. THIS IS JUST TO MOVE SOME MONEY OVER $10,000, I THINK, OVER TO AND WE'VE GOT IT.
>> WE LEARNED AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THE LATE FILING.
THIS IS MINE YESTERDAY AFTERNOON AND GOING THROUGH THE FONTS, WE'RE GOING TO END UP SHORT.
WE'RE SPAYING AND NEUTERING A LOT OF ANIMALS.
I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER BECAUSE WE COULD I'M TELLING YOU MAN, PUSHING IT.
WE WERE STILL COUNTING VOUCHERS.
WE'RE GOING TO GET CLOSE TO PROBABLY OVER 3,000 THIS YEAR.
IT'S CLOSER TO FOUR. IT'S A VOLUNTARY TAX, BUT WE DON'T WANT THE FUN TO BE IN THE NEGATIVE AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
>> THEY'RE NOT. WHAT ARE OUR FUNDS RIGHT NOW? DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH?
>> I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT 300 AND SOME ODD THOUSAND AND SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I HADN'T LOOKED SINCE THIS LAST ONE, COLLECTIONS ROVER, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE EXACT NUMBER IS.
>> WE'VE GOT QUITE A BIT OF MONEY.
[00:45:03]
>> I'M NOT GOING TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT REMARK.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL HAVE HEARD ABOUT WHAT'S GOING AROUND WITH THE DOGS.
I GOT A DOG COAT AND IT'S KILLING A LOT OF DOGS. BE CAREFUL.
I'M JUST LETTING IT KNOW ITS INFORMATION IS OUT THERE AND YOU NEED TO READ UP ON IT AND CHECK AND IF YOU HAVE DOGS.
I MEAN, I HEARD YOU SAY THERE'S A LOT OF THEM ARE DYING FROM IT. I'M JUST SAYING TRULY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. NO MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
AMY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON 23I84? IF YOU CALL THE ROLL 23I84.
>> MR. ELLIOT. YOU HAVE 10 AYES.
>> WE WILL SEND 23I84 TO THE FOUR CHORD UNQUOTE WITH A DO PASS RECOMMENDATION.
IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? WITHOUT OBJECTION, WE HAVE ADJOURNED THE ANNOUNCEMENTS.
[Announcements]
JUSTICE MCMULLEN.I NEED TO COLLECT FROM THOSE OF YOU WHO WERE HERE.
I NEED TO COLLECT FUNDS FROM THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE HERE, WE HAVE A CHRISTMAS PARTY COMING UP.
>> DETAILED KNOW YEAH, I DO KNOW THE MEETING IS NEXT WEEK.
NEXT TUESDAY, WHICH IS WHATEVER.
TUESDAY THE 19TH, WE WILL HAVE OUR FINAL MEETING OF THE YEAR.
IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SOME CONFUSION ABOUT A PARTY OR LACK OF PARTY BECAUSE NORMALLY THE PARTY WE JUST DID POTLUCK. IS THAT SOMETHING.
>> WE STILL WOULD LIKE TO COLLECT, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NOT THE PARTY, IF THAT IS ALL RIGHT WITH THE GROUP.
IF YOU OBJECT FOR THE SAME PEOPLE.
PAUL, WHERE ARE YOU ON THAT? RIGHT. WE USUALLY HAVE THE THREE INDIVIDUAL STOCKS CAN DO.
>> CAN WE MOVE THROUGH THIS AND THEN JUSTICE MASSEY WELL TAKE. JUSTICE MASSEY.
>> WELL, MY ANNOUNCEMENT CAN WAIT TO WE FINISH UP BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF YOU WANT A PARTY, WE SHOULD JUST SHOW UP, SHOW HANDS AS TO HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO PARTICIPATE AND BRINGING SOMETHING.
IT'D BE GREAT TO HAVE A TABLE CALLED, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO JUST BE ALL DECORATED BECAUSE I'M NOT A DECORATOR AND I'M NOT DOING THAT.
GLADLY PARTICIPATE IN BRINGING.
>> IT I'M LIKE MR. KEITH, I'M SCREWED.
MY THOUGHT IS IF A GROUP OR GROUPS WANT TO GET TOGETHER AFTER THE MEETING OR AT ANY OTHER TIME AND GO TO A RESTAURANT AND HAVE SOME FELLOWSHIP TIME TOGETHER, THEN THAT'S GREAT.
BUT AFTER 19 YEARS HERE, THE CHRISTMAS PARTY AFTER THE LAST MEETING OF THE YEAR IS GOTTEN STALE.
ANYBODY THEY WANT TO GO WITH, IF SOMEBODY SELECT A MADISON'S ME, SELECT A PLACE, THEN YOU CAN SHOW UP OR NOT.
IF THERE ARE NO MORE COMMENTS UP HERE, WE DO HAVE ONE COMMUNITY. MS. KELLY.
[Public Comment]
[LAUGHTER] THANK YOU. [INAUDIBLE][00:50:07]
>> I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ON TO THE ORDINANCES AND ALSO AN ANNOUNCEMENT ON IT.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THIS CORRECTLY THAT HR HUMAN RESOURCES DIDN'T HAVE ANY DOCUMENTATION.
THESE EMPLOYEES CREDENTIALS, INCLUDING THEIR BACHELOR'S DEGREES.
FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BACHELOR'S.
I UNDERSTAND YOU JUSTICE TOWERS TO SAY THAT.
MR. POKEMON, IS THAT CORRECT? [INAUDIBLE] AM I THINKING IS IS THAT IF YOU APPLY FOR A JOB AND IT REQUIRES A BACHELOR'S.
MY JOB REQUIRED TO PRODUCE MY OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT AND A COPY OF MY DEGREE.
THIS IS FOR ME, IT'S VERY DISTURBING.
THIS IS PUBLIC INFORMATION THAT SHOULDN'T BE AN HR.
I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED TO NOTE THAT THIS IS GOING ON.
23-82 QUESTION THOUGH I SUPPORT THE HOMELESS VILLAGE.
BUT THAT $261,000 THAT WAS LEFTOVER.
I FELT LIKE THE COUNTY MR. HUDSON, COUNTY JUDGE HARD SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN WITH THE JP'S ON THAT ON HOW THEY WANT TO USE THE MONEY, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE WHO HAVE THE UNINCORPORATED COMMUNITIES.
SPEAKING FOR MY DISTRICT, I KNOW THAT DISTRICT IN DICTATOR COULD HAVE USED SOME OF THAT MONEY.
>> I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO ANYTHING WITH THAT.
>> BUT THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN SOME COMMUNICATION WITH THE GPS ON HOW? SOME RECOMMENDATION FROM YOU GUYS.
BUT JUST SEEMED LIKE WE GOT A MONOPOLY GOING ON HERE, BUT ONE ELECTED OFFICIAL NOW I AM GOING TO SAY ITS NAME VERY HARD MAKING ALL THE DECISIONS.
IT SHOULD GO THROUGH ALL 14, 15 JPS OUT OF RESPECT.
THEN WITH THAT, MY PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT.
THIRD ANNUAL COMMUNITY CHARITY BASKETBALL GAME, THE PARADINE TO JAMMIES VERSUS THE MAC AND THAT GOLDEN FALCONS, OF COURSE, YOU GUYS KNOW ON THE EVENT COORDINATOR.
THIRD YEAR, ANY OF YOU GUYS ARE INTERESTED IN BEING A SPONSOR, WANTS TO VOLUNTEER, WANT TO PLAY BALL CALL ME.
WE APPRECIATE YOU ALL SUPPORT LAST YEAR.
[LAUGHTER] NO, I'M FIRED UP WITH THE 261,000.
JANUARY THE 12TH, 2024, 07:00 PM AND THE HARRIS SCHOLARS ARE GOING TO BE PERFORMING AT THE HALFTIME.
YOU GUYS WANT TO BE IN THE HALFTIME SHOW DO A LITTLE SOMETHING? LET ME KNOW.
>> WHERE'S THE LOCATION WHERE IT'S GOTTEN.
>> HARRIS ELEMENTARY OF SETTLEMENT AND THE PROCEEDS ARE GOING TO BE GOING TO THE THREE ELEMENT COMMUNITY GROUPS AND UNFORTUNATE WILL BE GOING INTO HARRIS ELEMENTARY TO GO INTO THEIR GENERAL. THANK YOU.
>> HAPPY HOLIDAYS AND I'LL SEE YOU ALL NEXT YEAR.
>> SAME TO YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.