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AND MAY I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION? I'M GOING TO ASK THE JUSTICES, ALL OF THE JUSTICES, IF THEY WILL GO AHEAD AND TAKE THEIR SEAT SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GET THE MEETING STARTED, IF YOU WOULD. [INAUDIBLE]
[1. CALL TO ORDER]
ALL RIGHT. ONE TWO.WE DO APPEAR TO HAVE A QUORUM.
IF YOU COULD, WOULD YOU PLEASE STAND? LET'S PRAY.
WE ASK THAT YOU BE WITH US THIS EVENING AND HELP US TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO HERE TO HANDLE THE LEGISLATIVE BUSINESS OF THIS COUNTY AND ASK THAT YOU BLESS OUR EFFORTS, BE WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US AS WE GO ABOUT FROM THIS MEETING.
IT'S IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY. AMEN.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
THANK YOU TO EVERYONE THAT PARTICIPATED IN OUR OPENING.
AMY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? 12 PRESENT.
12 PRESENT, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND DO THE BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY, AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, YOUR MICROPHONES ARE ON.
THANK YOU. YOU DON'T WANT TO BE CAUGHT WITH AN OPEN MIC.
WELL, YOU MAY YOU MAY WANT TO BE CAUGHT WITH AN OPEN MIC, I DON'T KNOW.
[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
APPROVAL OF MINUTES.IS THERE A RECOMMENDATION? SO MOVED. SECOND.
A MOTION WAS MADE WITH THE SECOND THAT WE APPROVE OUR MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
OPPOSED? OUR MINUTES HAVE BEEN APPROVED, AMY.
I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
[24-I-09 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 23-OR-47 (2024 ANNUAL BUDGET, PULASKI COUNTY, ARKANSAS) TO RECOGNIZE AND APPROPRIATE REIMBURSEMENT FUNDS FOR THE CRISIS STABILIZATION UNIT.]
WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE INTO OUR ORDINANCES.AMY, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ 24-I-09.
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 23-OR-47 2024 ANNUAL BUDGET.
JUSTICE ELLIOTT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPLAIN? WITH THE CROSS [INAUDIBLE] I CAN'T GET THAT.
SORE THROAT, SO I CAN'T HARDLY SAY IT.
YOU KNOW WHAT YOU SAID. [CHUCKLING] [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S IT, AND MONEY.
YEAH. IT'S ROUTINE THAT WE DO THIS EVERY MONTH, SO WE'RE DOING OUR ROUTINE.
ANY. JUSTICE STOWERS, AND IT'S MONEY COMING IN, NOT GOING OUT.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GOOD DEAL, AND YOU EVERYONE, A REMINDER THAT YOUR YOUR MICROPHONES ARE ON.
SO IF YOU NEED TO SPEAK, JUST RAISE YOUR HANDS, AND I WILL CALL YOU IN THE ORDER THAT I SEE YOU.
NO QUESTIONS. COMMENTS. AMY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
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12 AYES.12 AYES. WE WILL SEND 24-I-09 TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT WITH A DO PASS RECOMMENDATION, AND JUST ANOTHER HOUSEKEEPING, CAN YOU PLEASE SPEAK INTO YOUR MICROPHONE SO IT CAN BE PICKED UP? AMY, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ 24-I-10 ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 23-OR-47 2024 ANNUAL BUDGET, PULASKI COUNTY, ARKANSAS, TO
[24-I-10 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 23-OR-47 (2024 ANNUAL BUDGET, PULASKI COUNTY, ARKANSAS) TO RECOGNIZE AND APPROPRIATE INSURANCE REIMBURSEMENT FUNDS FOR THE ROAD & BRIDGE DEPARTMENT.]
RECOGNIZE AN APPROPRIATE INSURANCE REIMBURSEMENT FUNDS FOR THE ROAD AND BRIDGE DEPARTMENT.MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION, THEN WE SEND TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT.
JUSTICE MCCOY, I GUESS I WILL ALLOW HUTCH TO EXPLAIN.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
WE HAD A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WAS DAMAGED, TOTALED, ACTUALLY, AND THIS IS THE INSURANCE GOING BACK INTO THEIR BUDGETS SO THEY CAN REPLACE THE EQUIPMENT.
AMY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? 12 AYES.
12 AYES, WE WILL SEND 24-I-10 TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT WITH A DO PASS RECOMMENDATION.
[24-I-11 AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A PROPERTY EXCHANGE WITH SOUTHEASTERN FREIGHT LINES IN ACCORDANCE WITH A.C.A. 14-16-116.]
WITH ACA14-16-116 JUSTICE GREEN.YES, SIR. I THINK THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A PROPERTY SWAP.
SECOND. THANK YOU, JUSTICE GREEN.
SHE SENT IT TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT WITH A DO PASS RECOMMENDATION.
NOW, WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPLAIN? YES, SIR. THIS IS A PROPERTY SWAP BETWEEN PULASKI COUNTY AND SOUTHERN FREIGHT LINES, AND I THINK SOUTHERN FREIGHT LINES HAS 1.75 ACRES OF LAND, AND PULASKI COUNTY HAS 1.47 ACRES, AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT BOTH ENTITIES AND IT WILL ENHANCE THE FOOTBALL FIELD.
BASEBALL, I MEAN, BASEBALL FIELD.
I'M SORRY. IT WILL ENHANCE THE BASE.
IT WILL ENLARGE THE BASEBALL FIELD IN COLLEGE STATION, WHICH IS IN MY DISTRICT.
OKAY. THE SOUTH ASIAN FREIGHT LINES CONTACTED US ABOUT ABOUT BUYING THE LAND.
WE PUT THEM IN CONTACT, EVEN THOUGH WE OWN IT WITH THE PROGRESSIVE LEAGUE OF COLLEGE STATION.
BECAUSE THEY UTILIZE THAT PARK AND IT WORKS OUT PRETTY GOOD FOR US.
WE'RE TRAINING, WE'RE TRADING SOME WET GROUND FOR SOME DRY GROUND.
SO THAT'S GOOD, AND EVERYBODY'S HAPPY.
IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT BOTH OKAY.
GOOD DEAL. IF THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS, NO MORE COMMENTS AMY, A QUESTION.
JUSTICE MEDLOCK, WHAT'S THE SOUTHEASTERN FREIGHT LINE GOING TO DO WITH THE LAND? EXPAND. OKAY.
I'D LIKE TO BE ADDED OKAY TO THAT, BECAUSE, AMY, DID YOU GET THAT? OKAY. AMY.
I SAID IF EVERYBODY'S DONE WITH THEIRS, I WANT TO BE ADDED.
THE PARK IS THAT OWNED AND OPERATED BY PULASKI COUNTY? THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING THE DEAL.
SO ARE WE GOING TO, I GUESS IN THE FUTURE, SPEND SOME MONEY THERE TO EXPAND THE PARK? IS THERE A PLAN TO DO THAT? THEY EXPAND THE BASEBALL FIELD.
NO, ALL THIS IS THE PART THEY WANT IS WET.
WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THAT GROUND.
WHETHER IT RAINS OR NOT, IT'S WET.
WE HAVE ANOTHER PIECE OF GROUND RUNS NEXT TO IT THAT DRIES THAT IF YOU EVER WANT TO DO ANYTHING WITH THAT PARK, IT'S BETTER GROUND TO HAVE BUT THERE'S NO PLANS RIGHT NOW, OKAY? WE'RE JUST TRYING. WE'RE JUST TRYING.
OKAY. THAT'S ALL I NEED TO KNOW.
YEAH, WELL, WE LEFT IT UP TO THEM.
WE TOLD THEM WE DIDN'T CARE, SO UNLESS THEY AGREED.
NO DEAL, AND THEY AGREED [INAUDIBLE] ABOUT A YEAR.
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OKAY. GOOD DEAL. NO OTHER QUESTIONS.WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? CALL] 12 AYES.
[24-I-12 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 17-OR-08 (THE PULASKI COUNTY PURCHASING POLICY) AS AMENDED TO INCLUDE BEHAVIORAL AND MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES UNDER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES EXEMPT FROM COMPETITIVE BIDDING PROCESS.]
PURCHASING POLICY, AS AMENDED, TO INCLUDE BEHAVIORAL AND MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES UNDER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES EXEMPT FROM THE COMPETITIVE BIDDING PROCESS.JUSTICE MCMULLEN, ARE YOU PREPARED? YES, LET'S MOVE THIS TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT FOR A DO PASS RECOMMENDATION.
THANK YOU. SOMEBODY WE WAIT ON.
[INAUDIBLE] JUSTICE MCMULLEN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPLAIN? NO, I WOULD LIKE FOR I CAN, IF IT'S MY PURCHASING.
OKAY. ALL WE'RE DOING IS UPDATING THE PURCHASING POLICY TO MATCH STATE LAW.
HEY, HUTCH, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? SURE. I DON'T [INAUDIBLE] I HAVE ABOUT AN HOUR'S WORTH TO ASK.
NOW. I I DON'T UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I GUESS I MISUNDERSTOOD THIS, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY DON'T WANT COMPETITIVE BIDDING IN THIS ORDINANCE. WHAT AM I MISSING? NO. OH, ALL WE'RE DOING IS WE CAN STILL COMPETITIVE BID.
THE STATE LAW CHANGED TO WHERE YOU CAN PUT MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES UNDER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.
OUR PURCHASING GUIDELINES MATCH THE COUNTY'S PURCHASING GUIDELINES MATCH ARKANSAS CODE.
STICK WITH ME. [CHUCKLING] SO THEN ALL WE'RE DOING IS ADDING IN LAND SURVEYORS AND THESE THIS BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE SERVICES DON'T MEET THE BUDGET.
THE BID IS WHAT, 35 NOW? 35,000.
YOU'RE TALKING 2 OR $3000 AND ALL THAT STUFF, SO YOU'RE TAKING IT OUT ANYWAY.
SO THAT'S WHY THEY ADDED IT IN THAT CODE.
ALL WE'RE DOING IS MAKING OUR CODE LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE.
THE COUNTY CODE MATCH THE STATE CODE.
SO THE MEDICAL BEHAVIOR, HEALTH SERVICES, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES THAT IS INCLUDED WITH ALL THE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES? WELL, IT FALLS UNDER THAT IS MENTAL HEALTH IS WHAT IT SAYS.
YEAH, WE'RE JUST MATCHING STATE CODES.
JUSTICE MCCOY, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE COUNTY DEPARTMENTS THAT WOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS MENTAL HEALTH SPECIFICALLY? I DON'T KNOW. LET'S SEE.
MAYBE I FIGURED THE COUNTY JAIL COULD.
I MEAN, MAYBE THE JAIL THAT'S ABOUT JAIL OR JUVENILE.
HR MIGHT WITH SOME OF THEIR STUFF.
WE DON'T USE IT MUCH IN THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE, ALTHOUGH WE OUGHT TO, BUT WE DON'T USE IT A LOT.
Y'ALL MIGHT SHOULD I DON'T KNOW, I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE.
THEY CAN'T PAY FOR US TO HAVE OUR LIGHTS [INAUDIBLE].
OKAY. ARE YOU ALL RIGHT? JUSTICE CAPPS, DID YOU.
I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION, BUT MAYBE TALKING TO YOU TOO HUTCH, BUT I CALLED ABOUT THIS TODAY, AND THEY SAID THAT THE JAIL IN PARTICULAR WOULD BE USING IT, AND PART OF THE WAY THAT THEY WOULD BE USING IT IS WHEN THEY'RE USING, LIKE, PLACEMENT PROGRAMS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE TRANSITIONING OUT OF THE JAIL.
THEY'RE CURRENTLY HAVE AGREEMENTS, AND THIS WILL SET UP A WHOLE LIST OF PRE-APPROVED ORGANIZATIONS THAT THEN THEY CAN TRANSITION PEOPLE OUT.
IT'S JUST LIKE YOU DO ON ARCHITECTS ENGINEERS LAWYERS WHATEVER.
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SO THEY MEET THE CRITERIA.YOU GO TO THE LIST AND FIND THE ONE YOU NEED.
OKAY. NOW WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT UNDER ARKANSAS CODE.
JUSTICE MCMULLEN. YES? WOULD YOU TRANSLATE THE RF PIECE, PLEASE? REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL.
NOW, I WAS ALSO TOLD THAT THE STABILIZATION UNIT AND I QUESTIONED THAT BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE UP TO UAMS, BECAUSE WE DON'T ALL WE DO ONLY OUR ONLY DEAL WITH THE CRISIS STABILIZATION STABILIZATION UNIT IS WE PROVIDE A BUILDING.
ALL RIGHT. SO NOW, UAMS IS A PRODUCT OF THE STATE.
OKAY. I DIDN'T I DIDN'T THINK SO.
THANK YOU. I NEEDED TO VERIFY THAT.
NO MORE QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS.
AMY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON 24-I-12.
OKAY, SO WE HAVE 12 VOTING AYE AND ONE PRESENT, 12 AYES AND ONE PRESENT.
WE WILL SEND 24 AI 12 TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT WITH A DO PASS RECOMMENDATION.
AMY, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ 24-I-14?
[24-I-14 AN ORDINANCE AMEDING ORDINANCE 23-OR-47 (2024 ANNUAL BUDGET, PULASKI COUNTY, ARKANSAS) TO RECOGNIZE AND APPROPRIATE GRANT FUNDS FOR ELEVENTH DIVISION CIRCUIT COURTS ADULT DRUG COURT PROGRAM.]
ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 23-OR-47 2024 ANNUAL BUDGET PULASKI COUNTY, ARKANSAS TO RECOGNIZE AN APPROPRIATE GRANT FUNDS FOR 11 DEFICIENT CIRCUIT COURTS ADULT DRUG COURT PROGRAM.YES, I MOVE THAT THIS BE SENT TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT WITH A RECOMMENDED DO PASS.
JUSTICE MASSEY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPLAIN? I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE SOMEONE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THAT COURT, I BELIEVE ONE OF OUR JUDGES.
IF SHE WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND GIVE US A BETTER EXPLANATION THAN I COULD.
JUDGE JAMES, AS A MATTER OF FACT.
WE RECEIVED $29,958.19 FROM THE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE OF THE COURTS.
TO BE USED FOR SUPPORTIVE AND RESTORATIVE SERVICES AND THE DRUG COURT, AND OUR BIGGEST NEED FOR THAT IS ACTUALLY USING IT FOR HOUSING FOR FOLKS.
THEY MAY COME FROM THE JAIL AND THEN NOT HAVE A PLACE TO GO.
WE DON'T NEED THEM TO BE HOMELESS.
SO IT'S EITHER TRANSITIONAL TREATMENT.
I GAVE JUSTIN SOME COPIES OF HOW WE WERE GOING TO BREAK IT DOWN.
WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY MONEY.
I HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF MY OWN CHECKBOOK.
I DON'T NEED OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF.
SO WE'RE ASKING TO OPEN AN ACCOUNT THROUGH THE COUNTY SO THAT WE CAN PUT THIS MONEY INTO THE COUNTY AND THEN ASK FOR THINGS TO BE PAID AS THEY COME UP. THAT HELPS US BETTER TO BE ABLE TO REPORT BACK TO THE AOC HOW IT WAS USED AND TO SHOW THAT IT WAS USED APPROPRIATELY.
SO NOT AND AGAIN, ONCE IT'S OUT, IT'S OUT.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR YOU ALL TO PUT MONEY BACK IN, AND THIS WAS PART OF, I THINK, THE VERY FIRST OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUND THAT CAME THROUGH SEVERAL YEARS BACK.
OKAY. GO AHEAD. JUSTICE MASSEY.
JUDGE JAMES, YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT HOW LONG DO YOU THINK THIS MONEY IS GOING TO LAST? JUST AN IDEA, SINCE, YOU KNOW, THEY WILL BE TRANSITIONING POSSIBLY FROM THE JAIL, AND I'M SURE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE.
WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF AMAZING BECAUSE I THINK IT'LL LAST LONGER THAN WE THINK WE APPORTIONED $25,000 WHEN WHAT WE CALL OTHER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, WHICH WILL BE THESE TRANSITIONAL HOMES, MOST OF THEM WE'VE DEALT WITH BEFORE AND HAD MEMORANDUMS OF UNDERSTANDING WHEN THIS MONEY WAS ACTUALLY OVER AT THE AOC AND WE WERE USING A GRANT THERE, YOUR JAIL PROGRAM, YOUR CSI PROGRAM.
THEY ALSO HAVE A SEPARATE GRANT.
SO A LOT OF TIMES THEIR GRADUATES ARE COVERED.
SO LIKE WITH HOOVER, WE CAN PUT SOMEONE IN HOOVER WITH A TRANSITIONAL LIVING APARTMENT
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AND OUR MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING I THINK IS AROUND $500 A MONTH, AND THEN WE USUALLY TRY TO COVER ABOUT 60 TO 90 DAYS, AND DURING THAT TIME, WE EXPECT THEM TO HAVE BE FURTHER ENOUGH DOWN IN THEIR RECOVERY THAT THEY CAN GET A JOB AND THEN SUPPORT THEMSELVES STAYING THERE, IF THAT'S WHERE THEY WISH. NOT ALL OF OUR PEOPLE GO TO TRANSITIONAL.THANK YOU. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT THE ANSWER IS I'M NOT SURE.
YOU ALL KNOW THAT I'M KIND OF A CHEAP.
LET'S SAY FRUGAL, A FRUGAL PERSON.
I, YOU KNOW, I WILL REUSE FORMS. I WILL, YOU KNOW, I TURN BACK A LOT OF MY BUDGET MONEY, BUT YEAH, WE PLAN TO TRY TO MAKE THIS LAST A VERY, VERY LONG TIME SO THAT WE CAN BENEFIT THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE, BUT ALSO MAKE IT LAST AND NOT SPEND IT ON A LOT OF FRIVOLOUS TYPE THINGS.
THANK YOU. A COUPLE OF MORE QUESTIONS.
JUSTICE STOWERS, DID YOU STILL HAVE A QUESTION? YES, SIR. FIRST OF ALL, JUDGE JAMES, THANKS FOR BEING HERE, AS YOU ALWAYS ARE TO REPRESENT YOUR ITEMS AFTER A LONG DAY IN COURT, I'M SURE NOT ALL OF THE CIRCUIT COURT JUDGES DO THAT.
SECOND WANT TO SAY OUR APPRECIATION, OR AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, MY APPRECIATION FOR TO YOU AND THE OTHER JUDGES AND DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO SEEK OUT GRANT, GRANT MONEY RATHER THAN COMING AND ASKING FOR GENERAL FUND MONEY.
SO I WANTED TO JUST SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT.
THANK YOU. OKAY. WE JUST HATE FOR ANYTHING TO BE HELD UP BECAUSE YOU ALL DON'T HAVE INFORMATION, AND LIKE I SAID, IF Y'ALL WANT TO SEE THE BREAKDOWN OF HOW WE PUT THAT IN THERE, IT. WE DID A TYPE UP THING.
THERE'S ENOUGH FOR EVERYONE, BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, THE BIGGEST ITEM IS THAT OTHER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND KNOW THAT MOST OF THAT IS GOING TO GO TO HOUSING AND TREATMENT [INAUDIBLE] HOUSING, THAT TYPE OF THING.
ELLIOTT. JUST JUSTICE ELLIOTT.
I JUST WANT I JUST WANT TO BE ADDED AS A SPONSOR, OKAY? YEAH, I, YOU KNOW, SINCE, YOU KNOW, I AM GLAD YOU'RE HERE TOO, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO I DON'T KNOW, MY QUESTIONS MAY BE RATHER MUNDANE OR WHATEVER, BUT, YOU KNOW, SINCE YOU'RE HERE, I'M JUST GOING TO GO AHEAD AND RELAX AND ASK YOU SOME QUESTIONS THAT MAY APPEAR TO BE, YOU KNOW, VERY CLEAR TO OTHERS.
OR MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE HERE MAY WANT TO KNOW, BUT I NOTICED THAT MISS MASSEY ASKED ABOUT HOW LONG WOULD THAT LAST? AND YOU KNOW, WHEN I LOOK AT THE FACT THAT THIS IS FOR STRICTLY FOR TO PROVIDE APPROVED SUPPORTIVE AND RESTORATIVE SERVICES, OKAY, AND THAT WOULD MEAN GOING TO REHABILITATION FACILITY AND SPENDING SOME DAYS THERE, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT $29, THAT $29,000, IS THERE OTHER MONIES. THIS IS NOT THE ONLY THAT IS THERE TO HELP TO FUND THAT.
WELL, REMEMBER TOO, WHEN PEOPLE GET OUT OF JAIL, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE HELP THEM DO IS GET REESTABLISHED ON INSURANCE, BECAUSE I THINK EVERYBODY THINKS, OH, IF I SENT SOMEONE TO REHAB OUT OF POCKET OR SENT THEM, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE OUT OF POCKET, IT WOULD, YOU KNOW, THIS WOULD COVER ABOUT THREE PEOPLE, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WORK WITH THE INSURANCE, WE HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH OUR PROVIDERS.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE A LITTLE MORE FRUGAL.
WE HAVE ALSO APPLIED FOR MONIES THROUGH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE FOR OTHER ITEMS, AND TO PIGGYBACK ON THIS, IF WE NEED MORE IN THE FUTURE THEY JUST RECEIVED SO MANY REQUESTS WHEN THEY RECEIVED THAT OPIOID MONEY THAT IT'S TAKEN A LOT LONGER FOR THEM TO GO THROUGH ALL THE REQUESTS, AND THIS WAS KIND OF A STOPGAP FOR THE AOC TO STEP IN AND HELP US BECAUSE WE WERE GETTING PEOPLE FROM JAIL OR FROM TREATMENT AT, YOU KNOW, CCUC, WHAT USED TO BE BOOT CAMP OR RPF AND THEY HAD NOWHERE TO GO, AND WE WERE REALLY STRUGGLING AND SCRAMBLING TO TRY TO FIND SAFE PLACES FOR PEOPLE, AND THIS IS FOR OPIOID ONLY, AM I CORRECT NOT NOT THIS MONEY FROM THE AOC, BUT WHEN WE DEAL WITH THE MONEY FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, EVERYTHING IN THAT
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AGREEMENT WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND THE STATE OF ARKANSAS FROM EITHER, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER PROVIDER IT WAS THERE'S A HUGE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING AND IT'S OVER ABOUT 200 SOME ODD PAGES LONG, AND I'VE READ IT AND IT'S DIFFERENT FROM STATE TO STATE, BUT IT HAS TO BE BASED IN SOMETHING THAT GOES TOWARDS OPIOID PREVENTION, TREATMENT, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BUT WE YOU KNOW, THIS GRANT FROM THE AOC IS PRETTY MUCH FOR ANY AND ALL RESTORATIVE SERVICES FOR ANY AND ALL, AND IT'S, IT'S MORE OR LESS A SUPPLEMENT.WELL, IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S PART ONLY PART OF THE MONIES THAT IS PROVIDED THERE.
ALSO, I WANT TO SHOUT OUT TO THE AOC AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE.
SO IF SOMEONE HAPPENS TO OVERDOSE AT THE COURTHOUSE, EACH DIVISION HAS AN EMERGENCY KIT THAT COULD HELP THEM REVIVE SOMEONE. NOW, I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION.
ON AN AVERAGE ABOUT HOW MUCH OF LET'S SEE.
HOW WOULD I PHRASE THAT? LET'S JUST SAY ON AN AVERAGE, HOW MUCH IS SPENT OR USED OR REQUIRED FOR MAYBE EACH PARTICIPANT.
I KNOW IT DEPENDS UPON HOW LONG THEY WOULD STAY, SO GIVE ME JUST AN AVERAGE.
AGAIN, OUR RULE OF THUMB IS THAT INPATIENT IS 30 DAYS AND THEN TRANSITIONAL CAN BE MUCH LONGER, BUT OUR RULE OF THUMB IS WE TRY TO ONLY PAY FOR 60 TO 90 DAYS OF TRANSITIONAL BECAUSE PART OF OUR PROGRAM IS THAT WE WANT THAT PERSON BACK.
YOU KNOW, IDLE HANDS ARE NOT GOOD FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE BATTLING ADDICTION.
I MEAN, SO THEY KNOW THAT PART OF OUR TREATMENT PROGRAM IS THEY HAVE TO BE IN SCHOOL TRYING TO GET A GED, TRYING TO GET A DIPLOMA, TRYING TO GET ANY POST IF THEY'VE ALREADY GOT THOSE. DOES IT INCLUDE RESIDENTS? PARDON? IS IT RESIDENTIAL? DO YOU HAVE A RESIDENTIAL BRICK AND MORTAR FACILITY? DRUG COURT? NO.
OKAY. SO IT'S ALL TRANSITIONAL.
THEY COME TO YOU AND THIS IS TO TRANSITION THEM A PROGRAM.
ON AVERAGE, HOW MUCH IS THAT? PERHAPS IF INSURANCE COVERS, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THEY WOULD REMAIN THERE.
THAT'S WHY I'M ONLY ASKING FOR A MEDIAN OR A MEAN OR A MODE.
OKAY. USUALLY INPATIENT IS COVERING COVERED BY INSURANCE.
THE TRANSITIONAL CAN BE ABOUT 500 A MONTH.
WE PAY FOR TWO, SOMETIMES THREE MONTHS.
SO YOU'RE TALKING MAYBE $500 FOR ONE MONTH, UP TO $1500 FOR THREE MONTHS.
AFTER THREE MONTHS, THEY SHOULD BE WORKING IN THE INSURANCE.
THE INSURANCE PAYS FOR SOMETHING ELSE.
NOT THAT INSURANCE USUALLY PAYS FOR INPATIENT BECAUSE THAT'S CONSIDERED MEDICAL TREATMENT.
YES, MA'AM. JESSE JAMES, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU.
HAS THE COURT BEEN ABLE TO OR WILL YOU BE ABLE TO APPLY TO I THINK IT'S KIRK LANE TO UTILIZE OR TO BE TO QUALIFY OR I GUESS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOME OF THE OPIOID MONIES THAT THEY HAVE.
OKAY. THEY WANT TO WAIT AND SEE BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT PEOPLE DOUBLE DIPPING.
RIGHT, AND I CAN COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT.
SO WE'RE I THINK THEY WANT US TO WAIT TO SEE WHAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL DOES FIRST, AND THEN IF WE STILL HAVE NEEDS OR, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO SECURE THOSE FUNDS BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY SPENT ELSEWHERE, THEN OF COURSE, WE CAN GO TO THEM.
THANK YOU. JUDGE JAMES THANK YOU FOR COMING.
THERE DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE ANY MORE QUESTIONS.
FANTASTIC. WELL, I LOVE DRUG COURT, AS Y'ALL CAN TELL.
AMY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON 24-I-14,
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WE WILL SEND THIS TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT WITH A DO PASS RECOMMENDATION.NORMAL BUSINESS. IS THERE A RECOMMENDATION? SO MOVED. SECOND.
[Announcements]
ALL RIGHT.SO IT'S THAT TIME OF YEAR NACO REGISTRATION IS OPEN.
THIS YEAR WILL BE IN BEAUTIFUL HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IN TAMPA, FLORIDA.
OKAY. SO WE'RE LOOKING LIKE WE PROBABLY CAN GET MAYBE 8 TO 9 PEOPLE THERE FOR FOR THIS EVENT.
SO I'VE GOT THE FORMS IF ANYONE'S INTERESTED.
OBVIOUSLY IT'S ALWAYS A FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE.
SO YEAH, IF THAT'S MY ANNOUNCEMENT.
NO, NO, I THINK SHE'S SAYING THE DATES ARE JULY 12TH THROUGH JULY 15TH.
BALMY JULY 12TH IN TAMPA, FLORIDA.
DID SOMEBODY ELSE HAVE A QUESTION? FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE. NO OTHER QUESTIONS.
ALL RIGHT. WE DO HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENT.
I'VE GOT SOME THAT HAVE BEEN TURNED IN, MISTER KEITH.
[Public Comment]
YES, SIR, AND I DO HAVE ONE THAT WAS EMAILED IN TO ME AS WELL.OKAY. THE FIRST ONE IS FROM MISS [INAUDIBLE].
IN LATE OCTOBER 2023, PULASKI COUNTY ROAD AND BRIDGE INSTALLED SPEED BUMPS ON CINNAMON DRIVE.
VERY AGGRESSIVE AND A DRIVER MUST COME TO A STOP TO CROSS THEM.
THE SPEED LIMIT ON CINNAMON DRIVE IS 25 MILES AN HOUR, AND THIS MEASURE IS QUITE EXTREME.
THERE IS AND CONTINUES TO BE VISIBLE SCARRING.
IT SAYS SCARING, BUT I'LL ASSUME IT'S SCARRING.
ON THESE BUMPS FROM DAMAGE TO VEHICLES.
WHEN I CONTACTED ROAD AND BRIDGE TO VOICE CONCERNS, A WOMAN WHO ANSWERED THE PHONE EXPLAINED TO ME A WOMAN GOT WITH THE JP AND HE GOT WITH THE JUDGE AND THE JUDGE ORDERED IT. THEY ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
OH MY. SHE TRANSFERRED ME TO MR. RAMSEY, WHO SAID THAT HE WAS ABLE TO CROSS THEM AT 20 MILES AN HOUR IN HIS CAR.
HE ALSO SHARED THAT THEY WERE CONSTRUCTED TO THE SPECIFICS, TO THE SPECIFICATIONS AS DEFINED BY THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT, AND THAT I CAN ALWAYS GO AROUND THEM TO AVOID THEM.
I ATTEMPTED TO CONTACT HIS SUPERVISOR.
HE DIDN'T. OBVIOUSLY, THIS WAS IN THE TRANSITION OF THE DIRECTOR OVER THERE.
I WAS CONTACTED BY HIS DEPUTY, WHO LISTENED TO MY COMPLAINTS WITH NO FEEDBACK SINCE I'VE EMAILED THE JUDGE AND ADVISED THAT THE TRAFFIC MEASURE TAKEN ON CINNAMON DRIVE AS DEFINED BY THE FEDERAL DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION SHOULD NEVER HAVE ENCOUNTERED ON A PUBLIC ROAD, ONLY A PRIVATE DRIVEWAY OR MALL PARKING LOT, AND PROVIDED A CORRECT EXAMPLE AS PROVIDED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
AFTER WEEKS WORTH OF EMAILS AND THREATENING TO GO TO THE MEDIA, I WAS CONTACTED BY MR. [INAUDIBLE] VIA EMAIL THE NEXT MONDAY, NOVEMBER 6TH, 2023.
HE STATED THAT THE COUNTY ENGINEER AND ROAD AND BRIDGE DIRECTOR AND HIM INSPECTED THE BUMPS AND THE PHYSICAL SCARRING AND THEY, WITH THE FULL CONCURRENCE OF THE PULASKI COUNTY JUDGE, WOULD BE REMOVING THEM AND REPLACING THEM WITH MORE APPROPRIATE SPEED HUMP.
HE RESPONDED THAT I AM NOT FORGOTTEN.
THEY ARE WAITING ON A NEW PIECE OF GRINDING EQUIPMENT AND TO KEEP REACHING OUT PERIODICALLY.
I'M INCLUDING PHOTOS OF THESE BUMPS WITH THE SCARRING.
SCARRING FOR YOU TO SEE FOR YOURSELF.
MY NEXT ACTION IS TO INVOLVE THE MEDIA IF THERE IS NO REASONABLE RESPONSE.
NOW I'VE GOT A QUICK QUESTION AND THEN JUSTIVE STOWERS HAS SOMETHING.
SPEEDBUMPS, ISN'T THERE STILL A PROCESS WHERE YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND GET SO MANY SIGNATURES AND BEFORE THAT I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT, BUT IT'S FUNNY, WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING SPEED BUMPS AS WELL.
I DON'T KNOW [INAUDIBLE] YES, I CAN ADD A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT.
THIS ON CINNAMON, WHICH IS IN MY DISTRICT.
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CINNAMON IS IN MY DISTRICT, AND THERE HAD HISTORICALLY BEEN A SPEED HUMP ON THIS ROAD.THE COUNTY REMOVED THAT SPEED HUMP LAST SUMMER TO RESURFACE THE ROAD.
IT WAS A DIFFERENT KIND OF SPEED HUMP THAN HAD BEEN THERE BEFORE, WHICH IS WHAT CAUSED THIS GENTLEMAN'S ANGST, AND AS HE STATED IN THE LETTER, THE PUBLIC WORKS IS IN THE PROCESS.
SO SOMEWHERE, HOWEVER MANY YEARS AGO, THE PROCESS WAS FOLLOWED TO MISTER KEITH, TO YOUR QUESTION.
I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THIS.
AM I ALLOWED TO COMMENT ON THIS? YEAH, GO AHEAD.
YES. DID I UNDERSTAND HIM TO SAY THAT THEY CONTACTED THE COUNTY AND ROAD AND BRIDGE WITH THE COUNTY AND THEY DIDN'T MEET WITH SUCCESS SATISFACTORILY, AND THEY HAD TO GO BEYOND TO PERHAPS TRANSPORTATION, STATE TRANSPORTATION OR SOMETHING.
DID I UNDERSTAND THAT? NO, MA'AM. THEY THEY STARTED WITH PUBLIC WORKS.
PUBLIC WORKS WENT OUT AND INSPECTED AND SAW THE THE DAMAGE TO THE SPEED HUMPS FROM EITHER VEHICLES GOING TOO FAST OR WHATEVER THE CASE MIGHT BE, THAT DAMAGED, THEY COULD SEE THE SKID MARK ON THE SPEED HUMP, AND THAT'S WHEN PUBLIC WORKS AGREED TO PUT DOWN A MORE PALATABLE SPEED HUMP, BUT THE THE STATE WAS NOT INVOLVED IN ANY WAY, AND I HEARD THEM SAY SOMETHING LIKE, WELL, THE SPEED BUMP ISN'T GOING ANYWHERE.
SO I WAS WONDERING AGAIN WHERE THAT CAME FROM.
THAT'S THEIR PUBLIC COMMENT, LILLIE.
THEY'RE FREE TO SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT IN THEIR PUBLIC COMMENT.
HE'S JUST UPSET THAT THE TIME IS THAT IT'S BEEN 3 OR 4 WEEKS SINCE PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTED TO THAT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT'S BECAUSE PUBLIC WORKS IS WAITING FOR THE NEW [INAUDIBLE] TO COME IN.
I DID HEAR HIM SAY SOME SOURCE SAID, AND THIS SPEED BUMP ISN'T GOING ANYWHERE, AND I MY SIMPLE QUESTION WAS, WHAT SOURCE? HE'S THE SOURCE.
I BELIEVE WHAT I HEARD HIM SAY WAS SOME HE WAS REPEATING QUOTE WHAT SOMEONE TOLD HIM.
I MEAN, HE WASN'T GETTING ANYWHERE WITH IT.
THERE WAS NO QUOTATIONS ON ON IT.
YOU CAN READ IT [INAUDIBLE] THEY JUST SAID.
ROAD AND BRIDGE DIDN'T SAY THAT.
NO, I WAS LISTENING VERY CLOSELY.
SO YOU'RE SAYING WHAT I THOUGHT THAT ROAD AND BRIDGE HAD INITIALLY SAID THAT, BUT YOU'RE SAYING NO ROAD AND BRIDGE DID NOT SAY THAT? I WASN'T THERE, LILLIE.
I DON'T THINK YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING, DARLING.
OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
THAT'S RIGHT. [CHUCKLING] THAT'S WHY I'M NOT GETTING ANYWHERE, BUT I DO HAVE THE COURAGE TO ASK FOR CLARITY, AND STILL, I DON'T THINK THIS GROUP HAS THE CLARITY BECAUSE DONNA IS SAYING ONE THING AND YOU'RE SAYING ANOTHER.
CAN WE GET A COPY? CAN SHE GET, PLEASE? YEAH, IF WE CAN. I THINK YOU HAVE A QUESTION HERE.
NO, NO, NO. IF WE CAN GET A COPY OF IT, THEN MAYBE.
MAYBE THAT CAN HELP TO I GUESS, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
DONNA, I JUST WANT TO SAY AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IF IT WERE OR IS AN EMPLOYEE THAT SAID SOMETHING, I DON'T THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN REALLY DISCUSS HERE OR DISCUSS. I DON'T KNOW, I MAY BE WRONG.
I'M SIMPLY ASKING FOR CLARITY ON THAT.
YEAH. I MEAN, DONNA, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID.
THEN I HAVE TO TAKE IT AT FACE VALUE THAT WAS WHAT WAS SAID, BUT I WASN'T THERE.
OKAY, SO WE PUT THIS ONE TO REST.
WE'LL GET A COPY EVERY, ALL OF THE JUSTICES WILL GET A COPY OF THE LETTER THAT WAS SENT.
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NOW WE HAVE REMARKS FROM REMARKS FROM MISS MARKS.SUZIE MARKS I AM THE COMMISSIONER, HEAD COMMISSIONER WITH THE SARA LYNN IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT NUMBER TWO, AND I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT SPEED BUMPS AND TO ANSWER MR. KEITH'S QUESTION.
IT REQUIRES 100% SIGNATURES ALONG THE AREA THAT WE WANT SPEED BUMPS.
OKAY, AND I AM ASKING THAT BE CHANGED BECAUSE SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE SPEEDING LIVE ALONG THE AREA THAT WE NEED SPEED BUMPS.
I DON'T KNOW THE ORDINANCE, BUT SINCE Y'ALL TALKING ABOUT SPEED BUMPS OUR CONSIDERATION BECAUSE WE TALKED TO OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AND AMBULANCE SERVICES, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SPLIT LEVEL SPEED BUMPS BECAUSE THEIR RIG IS EIGHT FOOT ACROSS, AND IF WE CAN GET TWO, SIX, ONE SIX FOOT OVER HERE AND ONE SIX FOOT OVER HERE, THEN WE WOULD BE JUST FINE, BUT WE HAVE TO START WITH LOWERING THAT REQUIREMENT OF THE 100% SIGNATURE RATE, AND NOT JUST CURIOUS.
YES, SIR. IF IT'S 100% AND YOU WANT IT LOWERED, WHAT WOULD YOU CONSIDER AN APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OR THRESHOLD? 75. 75 SO ALONG SARA DRIVE FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END OF SARA DRIVE, WHICH IS A DEATH TRAP, THERE ARE 38 HOMES ALONG STEPHANIE, WHICH MAKES A CIRCLE BACK TO SARA DRIVE.
THERE ARE 28 HOMES, HOUSEHOLDS.
SO WE CAN GET 75% OF STEPHANIE AND SARAH, INSTEAD OF HAVING TO HAVE 100% OF SARAH AND 100% OF STEPHANIE, THEN WE WOULD BE I THINK WE COULD MAKE THAT HAPPEN, AND I WOULD ASK ADAM, BECAUSE THIS IS A COUNTY ORDINANCE, WE COULDN'T DO AN ORDINANCE THAT'S SPECIFIC FOR ONE AREA.
IT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE TO ADDRESS THE ENTIRE COUNTY.
THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
YES. IS TO BE GENERAL IN ITS APPLICATION.
SO Y'ALL CAN ESTABLISH FACTS UPON WHICH AN ORDINANCE RELIES.
SO YOU COULD SAY ONLY ON LOCAL STREETS.
OKAY, BUT YOU COULDN'T SAY IN THIS ONE GEOGRAPHIC AREA OF THE COUNTY.
OKAY. YOU REPRESENT SARA LYNN? YES, MA'AM, THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO HELP YOU.
HERE'S CINNAMON OVER HERE HAVING AN ISSUE WITH SPEED BUMPS.
MAYBE THEY WANT TO BE ON BOARD, BUT THEY'VE ALREADY GOT IT DONE.
SO, BUT THE ONE THING I TELL ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY, WE'RE ALWAYS WILLING TO PUT SOMETHING BEFORE THE QUORUM COURT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S 14 VOTES AND WE'RE REPRESENTING THE ENTIRE COUNTY. SO WHEREAS I MAY BE WILLING TO ACCEPT THAT, AND BECAUSE I SPOKE WITH YOU BRIEFLY ABOUT IT, I MAY BE WILLING TO ACCEPT IT.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT MY THE OTHER 13 CONSTITUENTS.
I'LL SPEAK WITH ADAM, AND I'LL GET YOUR PHONE NUMBER AFTERWARD.
YOU MAKE THAT HAPPEN, ADAM. THANK YOU.
NOW WE HAVE PAIGE, I'M NOT SURE THE LAST NAME [INAUDIBLE].
YES, SIR. OKAY, IF YOU'LL STEP UP, AND STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE, AND REMEMBER JUSTIN IS OUR TIME KEEPER. OKAY.
I'M ONE OF THE SUPERVISORS FOR THE PULASKI COUNTY DISPATCH CENTER.
FOR THE PULASKI COUNTY 9-1-1 DISPATCH CENTER.
ALL OF US ARE SUPERVISORS THERE.
WE JUST GOT A MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT THAT STATES THAT WE ARE BEING MOVED TO JACKSONVILLE CENTER.
WE HAD GOTTEN THE WARNING THROUGH AN EMAIL.
THAT WAS THE FIRST THING THAT WE GOT, AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN INCLUDED IN ANY OF THIS.
Y'ALL JUST SPENT $1.14 MILLION ON A NEW CAD SYSTEM FOR US, AND THEY'RE SAYING IN THAT MEMORANDUM THAT WE WILL HAVE TO TAKE JACKSONVILLE'S CAD SYSTEM.
THEY'RE ALSO STATING THAT WE MAY NOT BE EMPLOYED.
THERE'S 20 OF US AT THE DISPATCH, AND IT STATES THAT EMPLOYMENT IS NOT GUARANTEED THERE WITH JACKSONVILLE OR TO STAY AT OUR DISPOSAL WITH OUR DISPATCH.
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JACKSONVILLE HAS NO IDEA HOW WE RUN OUR DISPATCH, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THIS ALSO AFFECTS 17 VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENTS, ALL OUR DEPUTIES AND EVERYTHING. I MEAN, JACKSONVILLE DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO RUN OUR DISPATCH CENTER, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY EXPECT TO RUN IT IF WE'RE NOT EMPLOYED THERE.THERE'S 20 OF US AND IT'S OUR LIVELIHOOD AND US MOVING TO JACKSONVILLE.
I MEAN, IT'LL DISRUPT US AS EMPLOYEES.
IT'LL DISRUPT THE THE DEPUTIES, THE VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS AND THE CITIZENS OF PULASKI COUNTY.
THEIR CAD SYSTEM IS NOT AS GOOD AS OURS.
OURS REACHES DOES THE NEEDS THAT WE NEED FOR OUR DEPUTIES, AND WE'RE JUST WORRIED THAT FOR ONE THING, WE WON'T HAVE JOBS, AND FOR ANOTHER, OUR DEPUTIES ARE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, NOT BEING ABLE TO DO THEIR JOBS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE SYSTEMS THAT WE NEED. OKAY.
ADAM, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT? BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE HAD DID WE HAVE AN OPTION? [INAUDIBLE] IN, I BELIEVE IT WAS 2019, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY ADOPTED SOME CHANGES THAT I THINK SO, BUT [INAUDIBLE].
SO IN 2019 THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY ADOPTED SOME CHANGES TO THE LAW GOVERNING PUBLIC SAFETY ACCESS POINTS OR PSAPS, AND IT REDUCED PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED THE NUMBER OF PSAPS THAT WOULD AUTHORIZE STATEWIDE.
SO EVERY EVERY COUNTY ACROSS THE STATE IS SEEING CONSOLIDATION OF OF MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS INTO FEWER DISPATCH CENTERS. IN PULASKI COUNTY, THE STATE SAID, Y'ALL GET THREE FIGURE IT OUT AND LITTLE ROCK.
I THINK IT'S LITTLE ROCK, MAUMELLE AND SHERWOOD ARE CONSOLIDATING.
THE CITY OF LITTLE ROCK IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE ITS OWN, AND PULASKI COUNTY AND JACKSONVILLE ARE COMBINING, AND THE COUNTY JUDGE WHO GETS TO ULTIMATELY MAKE THE DECISION WITH RESPECT TO WHO THE PSAP OPERATOR IS NEGOTIATED TERMS WITH JACKSONVILLE, AND WE ARE THAT IS A DRAFT MOA THAT SHE HAS.
I'LL MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE A COPY OF IT, BUT IT PROVIDES A PROCESS FOR TRANSITION, AND TRANSITIONS ARE ALWAYS HARD, BUT IT PROVIDES A PROCESS FOR TRANSITION THAT ADDRESSES FACILITIES AND SOFTWARE, AND THEN A STAGED TRANSITION OF PERSONNEL, BUT ULTIMATELY THE PERSONNEL WILL BE JACKSONVILLE EMPLOYEES AND IT'S UP TO JACKSONVILLE WHO JACKSONVILLE HIRES.
MY THING IS THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE TO COMBINE, BUT WE COVER PULASKI COUNTY DEPUTIES COVER MORE MILEAGE THAN ANYONE IN THE COUNTY.
YOU'RE TAKING THEIR DISPATCH AND PUTTING IT THE FARTHEST AWAY, WHERE SOME DEPUTIES ARE GOING TO HAVE TO COME AN HOUR, TRAVEL AN HOUR TO GET TO DISPATCH TO PICK UP THEIR PAPERWORK FROM US, AND SO IT'S GOING TO PULL THOSE DEPUTIES OUT OF THEIR DISTRICTS FOR OVER TWO HOURS, AND THAT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE CITIZENS OF PULASKI COUNTY. WE NEED TO BE IN A MORE CENTRAL LOCATION.
WE COULD ACTUALLY HAVE JACKSONVILLE COME TO OUR CENTER AND BE IN SEPARATE ROOMS. WHERE'S YOUR CENTER? IT IS AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, 2900 WEST ROOSEVELT.
HAVE YOU GUYS TALKED TO THE MAYOR OF JACKSONVILLE? WE HAVEN'T TALKED TO ANYBODY BECAUSE WE HAVE.
OUR AGENCY HASN'T BEEN INCLUDED.
JUSTICE STOWERS HAD IT; LET'S START HERE, AND SO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
IF I UNDERSTOOD OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY CORRECTLY, THIS IS NOT A BY STATE STATUTE, IS NOT UNDER THE PURVIEW OR THE AUTHORITY OF THIS BODY. IT'S UNDER THE PURVIEW AND AUTHORITY OF THE COUNTY JUDGE.
SO EVEN IF WE WANTED TO HELP YOU, IT'S OUT OF OUR LEGAL JURISDICTION.
IS THAT CORRECT, MR. COUNTY ATTORNEY? ULTIMATELY, THE COUNTY JUDGE, ACCORDING TO STATUTE, THE COUNTY JUDGE IS WHO ASSIGNS THE THE AUTHORITY TO OPERATE A PUBLIC SAFETY ACCESS POINT FOR, FOR COUNTY PURPOSES.
THAT'S CORRECT. SO I DID WANT TO POINT THAT OUT, THAT WE'RE HEARING YOU, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT WANT TO GO TO THE THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH, WHICH IS WHO MAKES THE DECISION TO THIS REGARD.
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OKAY. HOLD ON.OKAY, AND I YIELD, MR. KEITH. THAT'S ALL I HAD. OKAY.
YES. WHEN I WAS GOING TO ASK, WHAT IS THE ULTIMATE EFFECT OF THIS WITH THE BUDGETS? BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'VE GOT QUITE A FEW DOLLARS, LIKE YOU SAID, INVESTED THAT.
HOW IS THAT GOING TO AFFECT OUR OVERALL BUDGET FROM THE BUDGET STANDPOINT? AND THEN I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU'RE SAYING THAT NO OTHER CONSIDERATION CAN BE GIVEN BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY BEEN DECIDED BY THE JUDGE.
LET ME ANSWER THE FIRST QUESTION FIRST.
OKAY. SO WITH RESPECT TO THE BUDGET AND THE WAY THE THE FRAMEWORK OF THE MOA IS STRUCTURED, FIRST THERE'S A TRANSITION PERIOD, AND THE COUNTY AND THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE WILL SHARE IN THE COST OF ACQUIRING THE NECESSARY FURNITURE TO ACCOMMODATE THE NUMBER OF DISPATCHERS THAT WOULD BE NEEDED FOR THAT SPACE.
SECOND, THE SOFTWARE, THERE WOULD BE A PERIOD OF TIME WHERE SOFTWARE WOULD BE MERGED, ESSENTIALLY, AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THE COUNTY AND THE, THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE WOULD HAVE TO GET ON THE SAME PAGE WITH RESPECT TO SCOPE OF OPERATIONS, AND THOSE COSTS WOULD BE SHARED, AND THEN PERSONNEL IS THE THIRD, ULTIMATELY THE THIRD PIECE OF THE FINANCE PUZZLE, AND EACH WILL PAY ACCORDING TO THEIR PRO RATA SHARE.
WHEN YOU COMPARE THE POPULATION OF JACKSONVILLE AGAINST THE POPULATION OF THE UNINCORPORATED COUNTY.
WHAT WOULD BE THE TIMING OF THIS? THAT WOULD NOT BE A LOSS TO THE COUNTY IN THE TRANSITIONING.
SO THE WITH RESPECT TO CONTRACTS, I DON'T KNOW THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE PERIOD.
BECAUSE FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT.
SO WHAT I'M FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT WE'VE GOT ABOUT A 90 DAY PERIOD OF TIME WHERE WE'RE GOING TO, ONCE THE AGREEMENT IS ENTERED INTO WHERE WE'RE WAITING ON FURNITURE.
THERE'S A 90 DAY PERIOD WINDOW AFTER THAT WHERE THE THE FACILITY AT JACKSONVILLE, WHICH IS A RECENTLY CONSTRUCTED AND HARDENED FACILITY, WHICH MEANS THAT IT CAN WITHSTAND A TORNADO.
IT CAN BE OUTFITTED TO, TO HANDLE THE ADDITIONAL SEATS.
THERE'S A THIRD 90 DAY WINDOW, WHICH IS THE TRANSITION OF EMPLOYEES AND THE HIGHER UP OF JACKSONVILLE WITH FOLKS TO RUN THESE OPERATIONS AND SIMULTANEOUS TRAINING TO ACCOMMODATE THE VARIOUS VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND, AND [INAUDIBLE] AND OTHER EMERGENCY RESPONDERS, INCLUDING THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS IS, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANY MISFIRES OR MISSING CYLINDERS, AND THEN IN THE LAST 90 DAY WINDOW WE'RE WORKING TO ENSURE THAT OR THAT JACKSONVILLE AND, AND DISPATCH WILL BE WORKING TO ENSURE THAT IT'S OPERATIONAL PRIOR TO THE STATUTORY DEAD DATE, WHICH IS JANUARY 1ST OF NEXT YEAR.
IT'S A FLEXIBLE DATE, BUT IT'S AT THE VERY LEAST, IT IS A HARD TARGET DATE, SO IT'S NO GUARANTEE.
SO THERE'S A TIMELINE, THERE'S A KIND OF A CONTINUUM OF OVER TIME WHERE CERTAIN STEPS OF TRANSITION REQUIRE OTHER THINGS TO OCCUR FIRST, BUT BUT THEY ALL BUT WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO BEGIN.
THANK YOU GUYS FOR COMING, AND THANKS FOR ALL YOU DO.
I DID ATTEND A NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH MEETING.
I THINK IT WAS ABOUT A MONTH AGO, AND THE SHERIFF HAD MADE SOME STATEMENTS.
NOT ALL WERE FALSE, BUT SOME WERE NOT TOTALLY TRANSPARENT.
I WENT TO FOUR DIFFERENT SOURCES BECAUSE I WANTED TO FIND OUT WHAT EXACTLY WHAT WAS HAPPENING, AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, LIKE THEY'VE STATED, THE QUORUM COURT HAS NOT BEEN INVOLVED IN ANY OF THIS.
SO WE'RE KIND OF SPECTATORS LIKE YOURSELVES, BUT JEFF ELMORE IS THE MAYOR OF JACKSONVILLE, AND I HAVE HIS CELL PHONE NUMBER, AND YOU CAN CALL HIM BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE YOUR ADMINISTRATION IS BEING 100% TRANSPARENT OF WHAT IS HAPPENING.
SO IF YOU WANT TO CALL HIM, I WOULD GIVE YOU HIS NUMBER, AND YOU CAN CALL HIM.
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SO THAT'S ALL I'M AT.SO I GUESS WE NEED TO REALLY ASK THE JUDGE SOME QUESTIONS.
SO THE POLICE, SORRY, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HEADQUARTERS IS A VERY OLD BUILDING.
IT WOULD TAKE A SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT OF OF NEW REVENUES AND NEW FUNDS TO HAVE A HARDENED FACILITY CAPABLE OF HOUSING THE NUMBER OF DISPATCHERS THAT ARE REALLY NEEDED, AND JACKSONVILLE'S BUILDING, I BELIEVE IT WAS BUILT IN.
I'M PROBABLY GOING TO BE WRONG.
I THINK IT WAS BUILT OUT IN LIKE 2015 OR 2017, SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE.
IT HAS WHAT'S CALLED A COMPUTER FLOOR, WHICH MEANS THAT IT'S GOT A LITTLE, LITTLE DECK.
IT'S GOT ADEQUATE SPACE TO HANDLE THE NUMBER OF CONSOLES OR DESKS AND PERSONNEL THAT, THAT WILL BE NEEDED FOR DISPATCH ACROSS BOTH JURISDICTION, BOTH JURISDICTIONAL AREAS AND THE SO THE THE UP FRONT INVESTMENT IS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER TO CONSOLIDATE AT JACKSONVILLE WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO WHAT WOULD BE NEEDED TO PUT SOMETHING.
CAN I COMMENT ON THAT? SO AT JACKSONVILLE WE WILL BE IN THE SAME ROOM, BOTH THE JACKSONVILLE DISPATCH AND US, AND I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAVE EVER BEEN IN A DISPATCH CENTER.
WHEN A CRISIS GOES OFF, IT IS VERY HECTIC.
IF WE'RE IN THE SAME ROOM WITH TWO DIFFERENT AGENCIES, IT'S GOING TO BE SO CHAOTIC THAT WE'RE GOING TO MISS CRUCIAL RADIO TRAFFIC AND BE NOT BE ABLE TO HEAR THE PEOPLE ON THE 9-1-1 CALLS, AND THAT IS A VERY BIG SAFETY CONCERN AS WELL.
OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO RUN TWO DIFFERENT DIVISIONS IN JACKSONVILLE.
ARE THEY GOING TO BE SYNCHRONIZED AS ONE UNIT.
IT WILL BE A CONSOLIDATED OPERATION OKAY.
SO ALL OF THE DISPATCHERS WILL BE ANSWERING PHONE CALLS ACROSS THE ENTIRE JURISDICTIONAL AREAS.
THIS IS LITTLE ROCK. THIS IS JACKSONVILLE.
THERE WILL BE ALL ONE UNIT, AS YOU SAID.
THIS IS TOTALLY WAY OVER MY HEAD, SOME OF THE STUFF THAT YOU MENTIONED, BUT SOMETHING ABOUT THE DEPUTIES OR SOMETHING IS GOING TO ARE DISPATCHERS OR SOMETHING, ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GO AN HOUR OUT OF THE WAY OR SOMETHING TO GET, I DON'T KNOW WHAT.
SO WE COVER THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF PULASKI COUNTY.
OUR DEPUTIES ARE NOT IN THE CITY, AND SO SAY FOR INSTANCE, OUR SOUTHWEST DEPUTIES, THEY WORK THE [INAUDIBLE] LITTLE ITALY, ALL THAT IN ORDER TO COME TO DISPATCH THAT WILL BE IN JACKSONVILLE.
IT WILL TAKE THEM OVER AN HOUR TO GET THERE TO PICK UP PAPERWORK.
OKAY, AND IS THAT SOMETHING THEY HAVE TO DO ALL THE TIME? EVERY DAY IS PICK UP.
YEAH, THEY COME UP THERE DAILY BECAUSE ACIC INFORMATION WE CANNOT SEND THROUGH FAX OR EMAIL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT'S AGAINST THE LAW.
OKAY. ADAM, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT ON THAT? THAT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS.
OKAY. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO I SHOULD ASK, BUT WHEN THE JUDGE WAS CONSIDERING ALL THIS, DID HE EVER TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE TRANSITION OF THESE EMPLOYEES THAT 20 MIGHT LOSE THEIR JOBS? OR WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE.
ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE TEN FROM HERE AND TEN FROM HERE, OR IS EVERYBODY GOING TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THEIR JOBS? I MEAN, IT JUST BREAKS MY HEART.
I'M WITH YOU GUYS BECAUSE SO I MEAN, ONE OF THE THE AND RESPECTFULLY THE THIS IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 6 AND 9 MONTHS OF NOTICE, AND I'M NOT HEARTLESS, I PROMISE YOU, BUT THE THE BETWEEN 6 AND 9 MONTHS OF NOTICE OF OF WHAT'S GOING TO OCCUR.
JACKSONVILLE WILL BE HIRING ADDITIONAL DISPATCHERS.
THE CITY OF LITTLE ROCK IS CURRENTLY.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'VE EVER BEEN FULLY STAFFED IN THEIR DISPATCH FACILITY.
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THE NORTH OF THE RIVER.MUNICIPALITIES, NORTH LITTLE ROCK.
MAUMELLE. SHERWOOD ARE EXPANDING THEIR THEIR DISPATCH.
THERE ARE POSITIONS THAT ARE WILL BE AVAILABLE, AND THERE ARE OTHER POSITIONS WITHIN THE COUNTY THAT IF DISPATCH EMPLOYEES DESIRE TO STAY WITH COUNTY GOVERNMENT, THERE ARE POSITIONS WITHIN COUNTY GOVERNMENT THAT THEY COULD TRANSITION TO AS THINGS KIND OF FILTER OUT.
THANK YOU. MAY I SPEAK? OKAY. WHAT'S YOUR NAME, SIR? CHRIS [INAUDIBLE].
SO MR. STOWERS, I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS YOU FIRST.
YOU GUYS CONTROL THE PURSE STRINGS.
SO WHEN THEY START TRYING TO MOVE MONEY AROUND, YOU CAN KIND OF EMPLOY YOUR WILL ON WHAT THEY DO.
THE ADMINISTRATION HAS NOT BEEN CONTACTED.
THIS IS THE FIRST CONTACT I'VE HAD WITH ADAM SINCE JUNE 9TH OF LAST YEAR.
SO WHEN YOU SAY THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TALKED TO, THAT'S FINE, BUT I WANT YOU TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR.
THE ADMINISTRATION, AS IN ME WHO STANDS OVER THESE THESE DEPUTIES AND THESE DISPATCHERS BEHIND ME THERE'S ONE PERSON THAT HAS A VERY BIG CONCERN FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS, AND WE SAY WHICH PART OF THE ADMINISTRATION I UNDERSTAND, BUT YOU SAID ADMINISTRATION.
SO EITHER SAY WHO IT IS OR BE CLEAR, BUT MY POINT IS HERE'S THE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THESE THESE ARE 20 COUNTY EMPLOYEES THAT WORK FOR THE COUNTY THAT WORK FOR YOU, THE WORK FOR YOUR JURISDICTIONS, THEY WORK FOR YOUR VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENTS, AND YOU'RE TELLING THESE 20 PEOPLE THAT THEY HAVE TO LOSE THEIR JOB WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF NOT GETTING IT.
THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT RUN OUR 9-1-1 CENTER.
98% OF THE TIME THEY ANSWER WITHIN LESS THAN 10S.
I PUT THAT UP AGAINST ANY 9-1-1 CENTER IN THE COUNTRY, AND MY THING IS THAT ULTIMATELY THIS BODY HAS SOMETHING TO SAY BECAUSE YOU CONTROL THE PURSE STRINGS, AND IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THAT, THAT'S FINE, BUT LOOK THESE PEOPLE IN THE FACE AND TELL THEM THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO STAND BY AND READ THIS MOA.
IT'S EMBARRASSING. IT'S A DISGRACE.
IT TALKS ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ASK AND ALMOST BEG FOR THEIR EMPLOYMENT.
I'VE WORKED OVER THESE PEOPLE AND BEEN THEIR LIEUTENANT OR THEIR CAPTAIN FOR FIVE YEARS.
I CARE ABOUT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM.
I KNOW THEIR HUSBANDS. I KNOW THEIR KIDS.
WE'VE HAD CHRISTMASES TOGETHER.
THEY CAN WORK FOR LITTLE ROCK.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORK FOR THE COUNTY. THEY CAN MOVE TO SOMETHING ELSE.
THAT IS A THAT IS AN EMBARRASSMENT.
IN 2019 THEY SAID, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THE THREE DISPATCHERS.
NORTH ROCK, SHERWOOD AND MAUMELLE MOVED IN.
WE GET PARTNERED WITH JACKSONVILLE.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A CONGLOMERATION OF PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY, FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, FROM JACKSONVILLE TO COME TOGETHER, PUT A WE WERE TOLD THAT WE WERE GOING TO GET A COMMITTEE TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT IT, TO DISCUSS IT, TO HOW THIS GOES DOWN, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, YOU GUYS SPENT $1.14 MILLION, $2.25 MILLION FOR TYLER TECHNOLOGIES. YOU PAID FOR THAT.
1.14, THAT IS A WASTE; IT IS A WASTE.
WE GOT ASKED TODAY, WELL, COULD WE RE-APPROPRIATE THAT? NO, YOU CAN'T RE-APPROPRIATE A CAD SYSTEM THAT IS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO TAKE A 9-1-1 CALL AND PUT THAT INFORMATION OUT TO THE DEPUTIES, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
EXPLAIN THAT TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
I'M UPSET BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE HAVE WORKED FOR TEN PLUS YEARS.
I'VE HIGHLIGHTED IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE PARTS THAT I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT IT WITH, GO AHEAD.
SO TO ADAM, WHAT DO YOU HAVE? I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO.
ADAM. HOW HOW DO THEY DECIDE WHEN TO SPEAK? WHEN THEY HAVE YOU GIVE US GIVEN US PERMISSION TO SPEAK.
THANK YOU. SO WHEN THEY COMBINED THEM.
WHY? IT ONLY MAKES SENSE TO ME THAT YOU WOULD TAKE PEOPLE THAT ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA AND EVEN IF YOU HAVE TO DRIVE TO JACKSONVILLE BECAUSE YOU'RE COMBINED UNDER ONE ROOF, THAT YOU TAKE PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY WORKING IN THAT POSITION OBVIOUSLY BEEN THERE FOR TEN YEARS, THAT THEY WOULD STAY IN THAT POSITION AND NOT HAVE TO REAPPLY TO JACKSONVILLE, RIGHT?
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I MEAN, HOW WHO MADE THOSE GUIDELINES, THOSE, THOSE RULES THAT THEY'RE GOING BY.SO, SO ULTIMATELY, THE THE COUNTY JUDGE AND THE MAYOR OF JACKSONVILLE GET TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS WITH RESPECT TO HOW THE STRUCTURE OF THE AGREEMENT, CAN THE STRUCTURE BE CHANGED? WELL, THAT'S IF IF THEY WANT THEM CHANGED.
SO WE JUST NEED TO APPROACH THEM ON A CHANGE.
THE QUESTION ON WHY WHY GIVE JACKSONVILLE THE DISCRETION ON WHO JACKSONVILLE HIRES IS Q UITE FRANKLY IF THE ANOTHER GOVERNMENTAL BODY TRIED TO DICTATE WHO PULASKI COUNTY HIRED, IT WOULD INFRINGE ON THE THE POLITICAL AUTHORITY THAT IS RESERVED TO PULASKI COUNTY AND ITS OFFICERS, AND SO WE HAVE TO RESPECT THOSE BOUNDARIES.
SO I THINK ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT MAYBE WHAT WE NEED TO DO, BECAUSE I THINK CHRIS HAS MENTIONED IN THE MOA OR MOU AND I 'M NOT AND I GUESS THAT MOU OUTLINES THE, THE, THE PROCESS FOR BEING HIRED SELECTED OR WHATEVER, AND SO THE STRUCTURE OF IT AND WE'RE UNAWARE OF THAT.
SO MAYBE WE WOULD START THERE.
I WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST START THERE.
I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD, MISS MCMULLEN.
NO, I'M WITH YOU TOO ON THAT, AND I ALSO WANT TO SAY IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT PEOPLE'S JOBS, THAT IS SERIOUS, AND IT'S NOT ONLY THAT, THOUGH, IT ALSO SOUNDS AS THOUGH IT'S A MATTER OF SPEED TIME.
IN OTHER WORDS, THE TIME THAT IT WOULD TAKE TO GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B, AND TIME IS MONEY, AND THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
IT DOESN'T SOUND AS THOUGH THAT I DON'T KNOW.
EVERYTHING THAT IS IMPORTANT, AND WHEN I SAY TIME, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT SOUTHWEST LITTLE ROCK, AM I RIGHT? AND THEN COMING OVER TO JACKSONVILLE, I THINK WE UNDERSTAND.
ALRIGHTY, AND YOU DID MENTION SOMETHING ABOUT I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN HANDLE THAT THROUGH TECHNOLOGY, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I ALSO WANT TO QUESTION AT THIS POINT IF THESE SAME INDIVIDUALS WOULD COME BACK, IF THESE SAME CITIZENS CAME BACK ON A FULL QUORUM COURT, WOULD THEY BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK WITH THAT, BE A TIME TO SPEAK AS THEY HAVE TODAY? THAT WOULD THAT WOULD BE LEFT UP TO THE JUDGE.
THEY GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
THEN THAT IS WHAT I WOULD--I'M SORRY? PUBLIC COMMENT. YEAH. THEY FILL OUT A FORM, THEY'D GET THREE MINUTES.
COMMITTEE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE, AND WE CAN ALSO PROVIDE THEM A MATTER OF VOTE.
I WAS LOOKING AT THE GUIDELINES FOR THAT.
I THINK THAT SOMEONE ELSE NEEDS TO BE HERE WHO HAS A LITTLE MORE INVOLVEMENT IN THIS, AND WHO WOULD THAT BE? I THINK IT WOULD BE THE IF IT'S FULL QUORUM COURT, THEN THAT WOULD BE THE JUDGE.
CLEARLY. I THINK HE NEEDS TO HEAR YOU AS WE HAVE.
FULL QUORUM COURT, JUST AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
DID YOU HAVE PERMISSION TO SPEAK AT THIS POINT? YEAH. HOLD ON, HOLD ON, YEAH.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON WHAT I'VE SAID? HOLD ON, LILLIE? OKAY.
YOU KNOW, YOU STILL GOT THE FLOOR, I THOUGHT SO YOU TOLD ME TO HOLD ON.
WOULD YOU ANSWER THAT? GO RIGHT AHEAD.
THERE IS NO SEAMLESS TRANSITION, AS IT SAYS IN THE MOA WITHOUT THE PEOPLE BEHIND ME, AND SO I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ME IS THAT THE SPEED AND TIME TAKE EFFECT. ABSOLUTELY. IF THEY HAVE TO TRAVEL ACROSS THE COUNTY, WHICH IS STUFF THAT WE CANNOT SEND VIA EMAIL OR FAX AT THE CURRENT TIME, THEN OBVIOUSLY THAT TAKES PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS AND THESE ARE INFORMATION THAT THEY NEED.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, AGENCIES ACROSS THE STATE HAVE COME TOGETHER AND WORKED TOGETHER VARIOUS WAYS, AND MOST OF THE AGENCIES HAVE WORKED THROUGH THE COUNTY JUDGE TO GET THEIR CONSOLIDATION DONE.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAVE 20 EMPLOYEES THAT CANNOT BE JUST MOVED TO JACKSONVILLE AND LET THEM HIRE EVERY PERSON AFTER THAT, BUT WE NEED THESE DISPATCHERS TO SMOOTHLY TRANSITION. [INAUDIBLE].
ABSOLUTELY, BECAUSE NO ONE CAN DO WHAT THEY CAN DO.
THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT REALLY WAS QUITE CLEAR TO ME.
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I WOULD I REALLY DO AT THIS TIME SUGGEST THAT YOU RETURN NEXT TUESDAY AFTER NEXT, THE FOURTH TUESDAY.CAN YOU WORK? THAT'S THE FOURTH TUESDAY.
ABSOLUTELY. PLEASE DO, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING TONIGHT.
I JUST HAVE A FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU GUYS FOR COMING.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE HEARING FROM YOU.
I HAVE A SORT OF LOGISTICAL QUESTION.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FOR ADAM OR JUSTIN.
WHEN WE APPROVED THE FUNDING FOR THE NEW TECHNOLOGY, A SPECIFIC QUESTION WAS ASKED AS TO WHETHER IT WAS GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE TRANSITIONED IF WE MOVED TO JACKSONVILLE, AND THE ANSWER WAS YES.
IS THAT NOT TRUE? I BELIEVE THAT QUESTION WAS RELATED TO THE RADIO EQUIPMENT, AND THE ANSWER TO THAT IS STILL YES.
REPEAT YOUR QUESTION, I COULDN'T HEAR.
I DIDN'T HEAR YOU. SO MY QUESTION IS, WHEN WE APPROVE THE FUNDING FOR THE NEW TECHNOLOGY, WE WANTED TO ENSURE THAT IF THE LOCATION HAD TO BE MOVED, WHICH WAS STILL UNDECIDED AT THE TIME THROUGH THE JUDGE, WOULD THE TECHNOLOGY STILL BE USABLE? AND THE ANSWER WAS YES.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS THE CASE STILL OR THERE WASN'T A CHANGE.
SO IT WAS ALSO VERY CLEAR THAT THIS WAS MOVING TO JACKSONVILLE.
[INAUDIBLE] 6 OR 7 MONTHS AGO NOW, I THOUGHT IT WAS CLEAR THAT IT WAS MOVING TO JACKSONVILLE, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING AS WELL THAT THE INVESTMENT WE WERE MAKING HERE IN LITTLE ROCK WOULD ACTUALLY TRANSITION TO JACKSONVILLE.
NOW, I CAN'T SWEAR TO WHO WHO TOLD US THAT, BUT I GUESS WHAT WE COULD DO IS GO BACK ON THE RECORD AND ACTUALLY READ AND IDENTIFY AND I GUESS IDENTIFYING WOULDN'T REALLY MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENCE RIGHT NOW.
IT'S EITHER GOING TO WORK OR NOT.
DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? NO. ALL RIGHT.
DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? YEAH. JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
SO DURING PUBLIC COMMENT HERE AT THE AGENDA LEVEL DISCUSSION IS ALLOWED AMONGST THE MEMBERS AFTER THE PUBLIC COMMENT. HOWEVER, AT THE FULL QUORUM COURT PUBLIC COMMENT, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT DIALOG AMONGST THE MEMBERS IS NOT ALLOWED.
SO IT YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME BACK.
NO, BUT THE JUDGE WOULD BE THE ONE WITH WHOM WOULD INTERACT WITH YOU.
OKAY. THANK YOU, AND IT'S AND I THINK YOU'RE ALL TOGETHER.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ADDITIONAL TO ADD TO THE DISCUSSION? I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT OVER 40 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE WITH COUNTY DEDICATED EMERGENCY 9-1-1 WHEN THE TRANSITION TAKES PLACE AND WE ARE MERGED INTO A POLICE.
HOLD ON, HOLD ON. CAN YOU HOLD ON? I'M SORRY. YES, MA'AM.
I WAS TRYING TO TURN IT OFF BECAUSE [INAUDIBLE].
OKAY, I APOLOGIZE YOU YOU CAN GO AHEAD.
OKAY. SO WE HAVE ALMOST 40 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE WITH COUNTY EMERGENCY DISPATCH 9-1-1 VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENTS. FIRST OF ALL, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BEG TO BE HIRED WITH JACKSONVILLE, AND APPARENTLY THERE'S ANIMOSITY WITH US IN JACKSONVILLE ALREADY, AND WE HAVEN'T UNDERSTOOD THAT EITHER. NO ONE HAS EXPLAINED THAT JACKSONVILLE WILL CONFIRM A WARRANT FOR ARREST IT FELONY OR NOT.
THEY WILL NOT TRANSPORT TO THE JAIL.
THEY WILL RELEASE THAT PERSON.
WHY? BECAUSE THEIR CHIEF TOLD THEM TO.
WE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE WHERE THE ANIMOSITY IS COMING FROM.
WE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY TRANSFER CALLS TO US AND THEY'RE LIKE IT'S COUNTIES AND YET WE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY ARE WE GETTING ATTITUDES FROM THEIR DISPATCH.
THEY RELEASE A FELON BECAUSE OF SOME POLITICAL THING THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO DRIVE 40 MINUTES TO GET TO THE JAIL, AND THAT FELON THAT COULD HAVE THAT SHOULD BE IN JAIL GOES AND COMMITS ANOTHER CRIME.
IT'S HORRIBLE FOR THE COUNTY. IT'S HORRIBLE FOR THE CITIES.
NOW, I'VE REACHED OUT TO TABBY, THE DIRECTOR AT NINE AT JACKSONVILLE, AND SHE HAS JUST.
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IT MIGHT HAPPEN, THIS MIGHT HAPPEN, THAT MIGHT HAPPEN.SO BASICALLY, STILL LEFT IN THE DARK.
I'VE REACHED OUT TO OTHER 9-1-1 COORDINATORS AND DIRECTORS IN OTHER COUNTIES THAT HAD TO MERGE.
HOW THEY DID IT WAS, FIRST OF ALL.
NUMBER ONE, FULL COMMUNICATION BETWEEN ALL THE PEOPLE INVOLVED.
THEY'RE MERGING WITH BRYANT THIS YEAR.
THEY'VE ALREADY TAKEN IN HIGH SCHOOL AND ALL THE OTHER LITTLE PDS WITHIN SALINE COUNTY.
WHY? BECAUSE IF LIKE THEY WERE, YOU WERE SAYING.
ON TOP OF THE FACT THEIR OFFICERS AND THEIR DEPUTIES KNOW THE VOICE.
WHEN A DEPUTY IS IN TROUBLE AND THEY KNOW THE VOICE COMING OVER THAT MIC IS ME, KELLY AND I CARE.
CONFIDENCE TO GET HIMSELF THROUGH THAT SITUATION.
WHEREAS JUST RANDOM WHO KNOWS WHAT THAT NEVER DISPATCHED FOR A COUNTY.
THEY DON'T KNOW THAT THE BACKUPS 30 MINUTES AWAY.
OUR DEPUTIES ARE OUT THERE BY THEMSELVES.
THAT'S GNARLY. HOLD ON. SORRY, PD.
THEY HAVE FIVE CARS AROUND THE CORNER.
OUR DEPUTIES. THEY'RE OUT THERE SOUTHWEST IN ROLAND.
THEIR BACKUP IS PROBABLY OVER THERE OFF OF [INAUDIBLE].
SO IT'S STILL GOING TO BE A GOOD 20 MINUTES.
RUNNING LIGHTS AND SIRENS TO GET TO THAT DEPUTY THAT'S IN TROUBLE.
SO, ADAM, ARE WE TO BELIEVE OR ARE WE TO ASSUME THAT THE JUDGE AND THE MAYOR TOOK NO CONSIDERATION FOR WHAT THE 9-1-1 CENTER WOULD LOOK LIKE ONCE IT MOVED TO JACKSONVILLE? THEY DIDN'T TAKE ALL THE VARIABLES THAT THEY'RE DISCUSSING INTO CONSIDERATION, AND I KNOW I'M ASKING YOU TO.
YOU'RE NOT THE JUDGE, OBVIOUSLY, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THE THE THE DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE WERE MADE WITH I MEAN, THEY WERE NOT THOUGHTLESS DECISIONS, OKAY.
THEY WERE WEIGHED AND MEASURED, OKAY, AND DECISIONS HAD TO BE MADE.
OKAY, AND CERTAINLY I GUESS THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY THAT THE FRONT LINE WORKERS MAY HAVE HAD MORE INSIGHT OR AS KELLY SAID, YOU HEAR A VOICE THAT'S SOOTHING OR THAT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT MAY PROVIDE A LEVEL OF COMFORT, I ASSUME THAT I KNOW THAT'S BUILT INTO THE SYSTEM AS WELL, BUT I JUST WANT TO THE CONSIDERATION THAT I WOULD HAVE HOPED THAT THE JUDGE AND THE MAYOR TOOK SOME TYPE OF APPROACH WHERE THEY WERE TRYING TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF THE CENTERS THAT MERGING AND, AND THE COMMUNITY THAT'S GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY THESE, THESE MERGING, I THINK JUSTICE MASSEY.
OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF PLANNING THAT I THINK IS GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE PLACE.
AM I CORRECT ON THIS? AND SOME THINGS THAT YOU HAVE PLANNED NOW MAY HAVE TO BE ADJUSTED.
BECAUSE THIS SEEMS LIKE A MAJOR PROCESS AND MERGER THAT'S ABOUT TO TAKE PLACE.
SO THE THE AGREEMENT SETS OUT THE PROCESS, AND IN THE PROCESS, CERTAIN DECISIONS WILL HAVE TO BE MADE, PARTICULARLY WITH RESPECT TO HIRING DECISIONS BY JACKSONVILLE, WHETHER AND I'VE HEARD MULTIPLE TIMES, AS YOU HAVE THE ALLUDED TO, THAT, THAT OUR DISPATCHERS WILL HAVE TO GO BEG FOR JOBS. I'VE NEVER I'VE NEVER BEEN IN A JOB ENVIRONMENT WHERE I'VE HAD TO BEG FOR FOR SOMEBODY TO HIRE ME.
THE SO THERE WILL BE DECISIONS MADE.
SOME OF THOSE ARE PERSONNEL, SOME OF THOSE ARE SOFTWARE, AN THE MANY OF THE OTHER MOVING PIECES ARE ONCE THE AGREEMENT IS SET IN STONE, ONCE THE AGREEMENT IS SIGNED AND EXECUTED, IT WILL TRIGGER THE SERIES OF EVENTS LIKE ORDERING FURNITURE BEGINNING THE PROCESS TO COMPARE THE VARIOUS CONTRACTS AND IDENTIFY WHICH IS WHICH CONTRACT IS BETTER TO EXPAND IN TERMS OF SCOPE OF SERVICES. WELL, ONE ONE THING AND I KNOW I'M NOT THE JUDGE, NOR AM I THE ATTORNEY, BUT I JUST THINK THAT IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE FAIR IF PEOPLE WERE
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PLACED IN REGARDS TO SENIORITY.I DON'T THINK PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE.
WELL, SOMEBODY WILL HAVE TO BE MAYBE LOOKING FOR A JOB, BUT I THINK IF THEY TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION SENIORITY, WHO HAS THE MOST SENIORITY? THOSE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, YOU GO IN ACCORDANCE TO THAT AS OPPOSED TO SAYING LITTLE ROCK, YOU'RE JUST OUT.
I MEAN, I JUST THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE AND IT'S NOT FAIR, BUT ONCE AGAIN, I KNOW I'M NOT THE JUDGE, BUT I JUST THINK IF YOU LOOKED AT IT FROM A SENIORITY BASIS, SOMEBODY'S STILL GOING TO BE HURT. SOMEBODY'S STILL GOING TO BE WITHOUT A JOB.
POSSIBLY. HOPEFULLY NOT, BUT POSSIBLY, BUT I JUST THINK IF THEY CONSIDER SENIORITY AND I MEAN, AND I KNOW THIS IS NOT FUN, TRUST AND BELIEVE.
I WORK FOR A COMPANY WHERE THEY HAD TO MAKE A DECISION.
HEY, WE CLOSED DOWN PINE BLUFF, CONWAY HOT SPRINGS, SO GUESS WHAT? AND FURTHER OUT THAN THAT, THOSE PEOPLE HAD TO COME ALL THE WAY TO LITTLE ROCK AND FURTHER PLACES TO KEEP THEIR JOB.
ARE YOU GOING TO DRIVE TO LITTLE ROCK? ARE YOU GOING TO GET YOU ANOTHER JOB? SOME DROVE TO LITTLE ROCK, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY FOUND ANOTHER JOB, THEY QUIT, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT KIND OF STUFF IS IT'S NOT PRETTY, BUT I STILL THINK THINK THAT S ENIORITY SHOULD PLAY A FACTOR IN THIS AND I'M SURE THERE'S SOME OTHER MOVING PIECES THAT I THINK MAYBE WE COULD PERFECT AS WELL, BUT I YIELD.
I'LL BE VERY BRIEF QUESTION FOR YOU, MR. FOGLEMAN. WILL THE HIRING BEING THAT THIS IS A CONSOLIDATION, [INAUDIBLE], I GUESS YOU WOULD SAY WITH JACKSONVILLE IN PULASKI COUNTY, WILL THE HIRING BE DONE THROUGH THE COUNTY'S HUMAN RESOURCE OR THROUGH JACKSONVILLE'S WILL BE THROUGH THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE? DON'T SEEM LIKE. THE EMPLOYEES WILL ALL BE EMPLOYED BY JACKSONVILLE DISPATCH.
OKAY. I'M GOOD. I WOULD LIKE TO AGAIN.
CAN YOU SPEAK INTO YOUR MICROPHONE? DID YOU. NO, YOU JUST GOT IT.
I WOULD OKAY, I WOULD LIKE TO AGAIN PLACE EMPHASIS ON YOUR HAVING A DISCUSSION WITH THIS BEFORE THE JUDGE BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, HAVE HEARD YOU AND AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, I THINK WHAT REALLY MATTERS WOULD BE THAT IF YOU WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH HIM, WE'RE KIND OF BLINDSIDED, IN A WAY, AND AT THE VERY SAME TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO BELIEVE THAT HE WOULD CERTAINLY BE WILLING TO HEAR YOU, EVEN IF IT MEANT THAT AFTER YOU HAVE HAD YOUR TALK HERE, THAT PERHAPS YOU CAN SCHEDULE A TIME AFTER THAT.
TO DISCUSS IT WITH HIM IN PRIVATE, AS YOU'RE DOING WITH US.
DO YOU DO YOU AGREE WITH ME? I DON'T I HEAR YOU, I SEE YOU HERE AND YOU'RE NOT SAYING ANYTHING.
WE HAVE HEARD WHAT YOU'VE SAID, AND AT BEST WE CAN LOOK INTO IT, BUT THAT FINAL DECISION IS FAR.
NOW, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN DO AS FAR AS FINANCING GOES AS FAR AS THE FISCAL GOES, BUT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT YOU'VE MENTIONED THAT SUGGEST THAT OTHER THINGS THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO YOU HAVE NOT BEEN TAKEN UNDER CONSIDERATION, AND I SEE THAT YOU'RE SHAKING YOUR HEAD BUT FAR AND BUT BUT AGAIN, THOUGH I DO BELIEVE THAT YOU DID AGREE THAT YOU WOULD COME BACK ON THE SECOND, I'M SORRY, THE FOURTH TUESDAY.
ANYTHING ELSE? JUSTICE MCMULLEN? NO THANK YOU. OKAY.
I'VE STOOD HERE AND LISTENED TO THE DEBATE, AND I STEPPED FORWARD.
BECAUSE DIRECTOR DAVIS INSINUATED THAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAD BEEN UNTRUTHFUL OR UNETHICAL.
THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID. I SAID NOT 100% TRANSPARENT, AND WHAT ARE YOU, IF I MAY ASK YOU, MA'AM, HAVE WE NOT BEEN 100% TRANSPARENT? I HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH SHERIFF HIGGINS WHO STATED THAT HE WAS LEFT OUT OF THESE DECISIONS, SO I WAS CONCERNED.
THE NEXT DAY I DID MY DUE DILIGENCE.
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DIRECTION IT WAS GOING.SO. SO, MA'AM, IF I MAY ASK YOU, SO CAN WE CAN WE ADDRESS THE WHOLE COURT AS OPPOSED TO ONE SPECIFIC JUSTICE? CAN WE JUST WE CAN DO THAT.
SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO ASK DIRECTOR DAVIS, WHO IS THAT PERSON THAT GAVE HER THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE I WAS THE LEAD ON THIS COMMITTEE, ME OKAY, I WAS THE LEAD AND THE SHERIFF DID NOT ATTEND ANY OF THOSE MEETINGS.
RIGHT, AND IF WE CAN'T COME IN HERE AND TALK TO THIS BODY AND GET A GET A STRAIGHT ANSWER, WHERE CAN WE GET IT FROM? ABSOLUTELY, AND THEN WE'RE GOING OUT HERE, WE [INAUDIBLE] ADAM AND I HAVE TALKED TODAY.
ADAM AND I HAD AN HOUR OR SO MEETING TODAY, AND THESE SAME QUESTIONS CAME UP TO ADAM.
ADAM CAN TELL YOU, BUT THAT'S NOT A FACTUAL STATEMENT.
GOD, WE COME IN HERE, AND WE PRAY EVERY DAY BEFORE GOD.
THEN WE SIT OUT HERE AND SPEW INNUENDO, AND IN CLOSING, MR. CHAIRMAN. THIS 40 PLUS YEARS OF EXPERIENCE HERE.
EVERY OTHER CITY AROUND US HAS WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE THIS TURBULENCE, BECAUSE THEY DID IT RIGHT.
THAT'S GOING TO BE SOME GIVE AND TAKE, BUT JESUS, YOU HAVE GOT TO LET US COME TO THE TABLE AND YOU CAN'T GO OUT HERE AND GET WITH SOMEONE THAT TELLS YOU THAT THE SHERIFF AIN'T THIS, AND THE SHERIFF AIN'T THAT.
ANY ONE OF YOU HERE, SITTING HERE TONIGHT CAN PICK UP A PHONE AND CALL ERIC S.
HIGGINS AND GET A TRUE STATEMENT FROM HIM.
THIS THING TAKES ME BACK RIGHT HERE.
JESUS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
I JUST WANT TO SAY I SYMPATHIZE WITH YOU ALL'S CONCERNS, BUT I WANTED TO ASK, HAD ANYBODY, ANY OF THE EMPLOYEES THOUGHT ABOUT TALKING TO THE COUNTY JUDGE? AS SOMEBODY HAD ALREADY SAID, THIS BODY CAN'T MAKE ANY DECISIONS ABOUT THIS, AND IT'S NO USE IN US SITTING UP HERE FILIBUSTERING AND TELLING YOU, ASKING QUESTIONS THAT YOU CAN'T ANSWER. I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT YOU MAYBE GET A COUPLE OF PEOPLE TO SIT DOWN AND TALK TO THE JUDGE AND LET HIM KNOW WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE.
THAT'S THE ONLY THAT'S THE ONLY SUGGESTION THAT I CAN HAVE.
YES, MA'AM, AND WE WERE HERE LAST MONTH, LAST MONTH, AND WE'RE TOLD THAT IT WAS INAPPROPRIATE FOR US TO BRING IT UP LAST MONTH, AND WE REQUESTED THAT THE COUNTY REACH OUT TO JUDGE HYDE AND SET UP A MEETING WITH US.
JUST THE FOUR SUPERVISORS, AND WE HAVEN'T HEARD A PEEP.
NOTHING. SO WE'VE REQUESTED A MEETING WITH HIM.
OKAY, QUICK CLARIFICATION ON THAT.
RIGHT. OKAY, WELL, NO, YOU TOLD US THE DECISION'S ALREADY BEEN MADE.
YOU'RE WASTING YOUR TIME. THAT'S WHAT YOU TOLD US, BUT HERE'S THE THE REAL.
THE REAL TRUTH, AND AGAIN, I EMPATHIZE I EMPATHIZE WITH WHAT, POINT OF ORDER.
WHEN THE JUDGE HAS A FINAL SAY.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT, OKAY, WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS? BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, IF THE JUDGE HAS THE FINAL SAY SO, THEN HE HAS THE RIGHT TO HE HAS THE ABILITY TO SAY YES, HE WILL ENTERTAIN A CONVERSATION DISCUSSION WITH THE WITH THE JUSTICES OR HE WILL NOT, AND I THINK DONNA IS CONSIDERING SOME THINGS.
SO IT'S NOT, WE HEAR YOU NOW, BUT WE CAN'T MAKE ANY PROMISES.
JUSTICE KEITH IS NOT MAKING ANY PROMISES.
HOW ABOUT THAT, JUSTICE KEITH? KIND OF. I HAVE A TEXT.
I WOULD NEVER LIE ON THE SHERIFF, AND THAT IS NOT MY PURPOSE TO EVER SPREAD RUMORS.
I HAVE A TEXT MESSAGE WHERE HE STATED THAT SO DO NOT DO THAT TO MY CHARACTER.
AGAIN, I AM NOT BASHING ANYBODY, JUST SPEAKING THE TRUTH FROM HIS MOUTH.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT, AND THAT'S BEEN MADE A POINT OF RECORD BECAUSE WE'RE STILL RECORDING, RIGHT.
ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S BEEN MADE A POINT OF RECORD.
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IF THERE IS NOTHING ELSE TO CLAIM OUR ATTENTION, WE ARE ADJOURNED.