Feb 25, 2025 Quorum Court

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IF EVERYBODY WILL TAKE THEIR SEATS, PLEASE, WE'LL GET STARTED WITH THE FEBRUARY QUORUM COURT MEETING FOR PULASKI COUNTY.

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

WE OFFICIALLY CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER, AND IT'S OUR TRADITION.

WE'VE ASKED THIS EVENING, WE'VE ASKED JUSTICE STOWERS TO GIVE US OUR INVOCATION.

AND IF YOU CAN RISE, PLEASE DO SO AND JOIN US IN THIS INVOCATION.

BLESSED ARE YOU, GOD, WHO HAS BROUGHT US TOGETHER THIS DAY TO WORK IN HARMONY AND IN PEACE.

WE ASK THAT YOU STRENGTHEN US WITH YOUR GRACE AND WITH YOUR WISDOM.

MAY EVERYTHING WE DO BE WITH YOUR INSPIRATION, AND MAY WE CONTINUE WITH YOUR HELP.

WE ASK THESE THINGS IN YOUR NAME. AMEN. AMEN.

AND JUSTICE ROBINSON IS GOING TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE.

PLEASE JOIN US. I LEFT THAT PART OUT.

THANK YOU, MR. STOWERS. THANK YOU, MR. ROBINSON. MADAM CLERK, WHEN YOU'RE.

HELLO. HELLO, MADAM. CLERK. WHEN YOU'RE READY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? YES, CERTAINLY.

15 PRESENT, ZERO ABSENT. THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK.

MEMBERS IN YOUR PACKAGE THIS WEEK, YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED THE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MONTH'S MEETING.

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

SO, MOVED. SECOND. MEMBERS. YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION.

YOU'VE HEARD THE SECOND. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE MINUTES FROM THE JANUARY MEETING? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ADOPTION OF THOSE MINUTES INDICATE SO BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED, NO. THANK YOU. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE RECORD THE MINUTES IS ADOPTED.

SO, RECORDED. AND WHEN YOU'RE READY, PLEASE GIVE US THE COMMITTEE REPORT.

[6. COMMITTEE REPORT: Agenda Committee]

WE YOUR COMMITTEE OF THE AGENDA TO WHOM WAS REFERRED ITEMS 24 I 69 BEG LEAVE TO REPORT WE'VE HAD THE SAME UNDER CONSIDERATION AND HEREWITH RETURN THE SAME WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF A DUE PASS, AS AMENDED.

RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED, CURTIS A KEITH. CHAIR.

FEBRUARY 25TH, 2025 TO THE PRESIDING OFFICER OF THE PULASKI COUNTY QUORUM COURT.

OH, SORRY. IT'S THE SAME THING. IT SAYS THE, OH WE YOUR COMMITTEE OF THE AGENDA TO WHOM WAS REFERRED ITEMS 25I07, 25I08 BEG LEAVE TO REPORT WE'VE HAD THE SAME UNDER CONSIDERATION AND HEREWITH RETURN THE SAME WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF DUE PASS.

RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED. CURTIS A KEITH, CHAIR.

THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK. MEMBERS, WE HAVE NO UNFINISHED BUSINESS, MOVES US ON TO NEW BUSINESS.

[25-I-09 A RESOLUTION OF THE QUORUM COURT OF PULASKI COUNTY CONFIRMING THE REAPPOINTMENT OF MS. DAMITA HENSON-BROWN TO THE PULASKI COUNTY BROWNFIELDS REVOLVING LOAN FUND BOARD FOR A TERM TO EXPIRE JANUARY 31, 2030]

SO WHEN YOU'RE READY, READ FOR US 25I09. A RESOLUTION OF THE QUORUM COURT OF PULASKI COUNTY CONFIRMING THE REAPPOINTMENT OF MISS DAMITA HENSON BROWN TO THE PULASKI COUNTY BROWNFIELDS REVOLVING LOAN FUND BOARD FOR A TERM TO EXPIRE JANUARY 31ST, 2030. JUSTICE STOWERS, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR A MOTION.

MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION. SECOND. MEMBERS. YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION.

YOU'VE HEARD THE SECOND FOR THE ADOPTION OF 25I09.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING 25I09? THERE BEING NONE. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL FOR THE ADOPTION OF 25I09.

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[25-I-10 A RESOLUTION OF THE QUORUM COURT OF PULASKI COUNTY CONFIRMING THE REAPPOINTMENT OF MS. BECKY BARNES CAMPBELL TO THE MULTI-PURPOSE CIVIC CENTER FACILITIES BOARD FOR A FIVE-YEAR TERM BEGINNING JANUARY 1, 2025 AND ENDING DECEMBER 31, 2029.]

JUSTICE BAKER, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR A MOTION.

I MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION. SECOND. MEMBERS, YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION.

YOU'VE HEARD THE SECOND FOR THE ADOPTION OF 25I10.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING THE ADOPTION OF 25I10? THERE BEING NONE. MADAM CLERK, CALL THE ROLL FOR THE ADOPTION OF 25 I-10.

15 AYES. ZERO NAYS. THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK. JUSTICE BAKER, YOU'VE PASSED YOUR RESOLUTION.

AND MADAM CLERK, PLEASE. NOW, PLACE 29, ORDINANCE 29I69, AS AMENDED, ON A FIRST

[Items 24-I-69A & 25-I-07]

THANK YOU. MADAM CLERK, NOW, WHEN YOU'RE READY, PLEASE READ FOR US ORDINANCE 25I07.

AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 2441 2025 ANNUAL BUDGET, PULASKI COUNTY, ARKANSAS, TO RECOGNIZE AND APPROPRIATE REIMBURSEMENT FUNDS FOR THE CRISIS STABILIZATION UNIT. JUSTICE LEWISON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THE MOTION.

I MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION. SECOND. MEMBERS YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION, YOU'VE HEARD THE SECOND.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING ORDINANCE 25I07.

THERE BEING NONE, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL FOR THE ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE 25I07.

AYES, ZERO NAYS. THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK. JUSTICE LEWISON, YOU PASSED YOUR ORDINANCE 25I07 AND MADAM CLERK NOW READ FOR US,

[25-I-08 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 17-OR-12 (PULASKI COUNTY PERSONNEL POLICY) AS AMENDED TO MAKE TECHNICAL CORRECTIONS IN ACCORDANCE WITH A.C.A. §14-15-506.]

PULASKI COUNTY PERSONNEL POLICY, AS AMENDED, TO TECHNICAL CORRECTIONS IN ACCORDANCE WITH ACA14-15-506.

JUSTICE BAKER, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR A MOTION. I MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION.

SECOND. MEMBERS, YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION. YOU'VE HEARD THE SECOND.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING ORDINANCE 2508? THERE BEING NONE. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL FOR THE ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE 25I08.

CALL] 15 AYES, ZERO NAYS. THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK.

JUSTICE BAKER, YOU PASSED YOUR ORDINANCE 25I08.

THIS ADJOURNS THE BUSINESS PORTION OF OUR MEETING.

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THANK YOU FOR THAT. AMY, DO YOU HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS? YEAH.

SO WELCOME TO OUR GUEST. I APPRECIATE YOU ALL BEING HERE.

[Public Comment]

SO, I HAVE SIX PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS ALL ON THE SAME ISSUE OF THE STATUS OF THE KANIS DENNY STEWART INTERSECTION. DO YOU HAVE A SPOKESPERSON? WHO CAN SPEAK FOR YOU IS GREAT.

DO YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF? YES.

MY NAME IS DANIEL CLARK. I'M REPRESENTING THE WILDWOOD PLACE PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION.

AND SO, SIR, THE PUBLIC COMMENT USUALLY IS FOR THREE MINUTES.

TRY AND KEEP US AROUND THREE MINUTES. AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE.

OKAY, I THINK I CAN DO THAT. SO, YEAH, I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE WILDWOOD PLACE POA.

THIS NEIGHBORHOOD OFF DENNY ROAD IN WEST LITTLE ROCK.

IT'S ABOUT 300 HOMES OUT THERE. I'M SPEAKING TODAY TO TRY TO KEEP THE CONVERSATION GOING ABOUT THE ONGOING SAFETY ISSUES AT THE DENNY KANIS, STEWART ROUNDABOUT OR INTERSECTION CURRENTLY.

IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT INTERSECTION, IT'S A Y SHAPED INTERSECTION THAT HAS ALMOST 180 DEGREE TURN.

IF YOU'RE COMING FROM KANIS ROAD ON A DENNY GOING WEST, AND IF YOU'RE GOING FROM DENNY ROAD ONTO KANIS GOING EAST, IT'S ALMOST A COMPLETELY BLIND LEFT TURN. TO GET THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION.

I'M HERE WITH MY WIFE ON HER BIRTHDAY TODAY. AS LONG AS MANY OTHER CONCERNED RESIDENTS FROM WILDWOOD PLACE AND THE HOPES OF TRYING TO GET A RESOLUTION ON THIS ISSUE.

JUST FOR SOME BACKGROUND, WE MOVED TO WILDWOOD PLACE IN 2019, BOUGHT OUR FIRST HOUSE, WHICH WE PLAN TO MAKE OUR LONG TERM HOME.

AND RECENTLY HAD OUR FIRST CHILD. SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE FIRST MOVED THERE, WE UNDERSTOOD IN 2019 THAT THE TRAFFIC AND DEVELOPMENT WOULD GROW, YOU KNOW, OVER THE YEARS. OUT IN THAT, THAT PART OF THE COUNTRY.

BUT WE DIDN'T THINK WE'D BE HERE IN 2025 WITH THAT INTERSECTION STILL HAVING THE, THE, THE ISSUES THAT IT HAS NOW, ESPECIALLY WITH THE ADDITION OF FLETCHER RIDGE OUT THERE, WHICH HAS ADDED TONS OF HOMES AND INCREASED CONGESTION AND SAFETY ISSUES.

SOME OF THE CONCERNS I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT TODAY WERE THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, I TAKE MY ONE YEAR OLD TO DAYCARE EVERY DAY, AND I ACTIVELY HAVE TO AVOID THAT INTERSECTION BECAUSE THE SAFETY ISSUES.

THERE'S A CUT THROUGH DETOUR THAT I TAKE OFF GORDON ROAD, WHICH IS A SMALL, POTHOLE RIDDEN, BARELY TWO LANE ROAD BETWEEN CHENAL VALLEY AND DENNY ROAD.

THAT SOMEHOW FEELS SAFER TO DRIVE THROUGH THAN TAKING THE DENNY KANIS INTERSECTION IN THE MORNING.

YOU KNOW, I'M SURE A LOT OF YOU ARE AWARE, BUT THIS INTERSECTION IS THE MAIN THOROUGHFARE FOR CHENAL ELEMENTARY, WHICH HAS ABOUT 450 STUDENTS.

WILDWOOD PARK FOR THE ARTS, FOR LARGE SUBDIVISIONS AND MORE THAT ARE BEING PLANNED AND BUILT.

PULASKI ACADEMY, BASEBALL FIELDS AND BASICALLY ANY TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING WEST TOWARDS FERNDALE, STEWART OR COLONEL GLEN OUT THAT WAY. ON A DAILY BASIS I SEE SCHOOL BUSSES, DUMP TRUCKS, LANDSCAPE CREWS, ETC. TRYING TO NAVIGATE THAT THAT DANGEROUS INTERSECTION BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT BUILT FOR THE TRAFFIC THAT IT'S GETTING TODAY.

AND OVER THE YEARS, I'VE SEEN MANY NEAR MISSES, SOME COLLISIONS AT THAT INTERSECTION.

AND JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO, I SAW A CAR THAT WAS DOWN IN THE DITCH FOR A FEW DAYS BECAUSE THERE'S NOT EVEN GUARDRAILS AROUND THE 5 OR 10 FOOT DROP OFF AT THE INTERSECTION.

OVERALL, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT COUNTY ALREADY HAS ALLOCATED FEDERAL FUNDS.

AND THAT THIS WAS RESOLVED WITH RESOLUTION 20-R-27.

BACK IN 2020 TO BUILD A ROUNDABOUT, WHICH WE THINK WOULD BE A PERFECT SOLUTION, BUT FOR REASONS THAT WE CAN'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND.

YOU KNOW THAT NOTHING HAS REALLY HAPPENED TODAY.

SO IT SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF FINGER POINTING BETWEEN COUNTY, CITY AND POTLATCHDELTIC ULTIMATELY.

BUT WE DON'T REALLY CARE WHO'S TO BLAME OR WHO ENDS UP TAKING OWNERSHIP OF THIS PROJECT.

WE JUST WANT IT BUILT BEFORE ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS OUT WEST.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, I'M, YOU KNOW, KIND OF DISAPPOINTED THAT WE HAD TO COME DOWN HERE TODAY TO TALK ON THIS ONGOING SAFETY ISSUE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY ONE THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE FOUR YEARS AGO. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TODAY, SAY, AND I APPRECIATE THE TIME. THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN, AND WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING DOWN.

AND YOU CAN RETURN TO YOUR SEAT. SO THAT WOULD BE MY JOB TO RESPOND.

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AND I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO A FEW FOLKS, AND I'M GOING TO REMIND FOLKS THAT I'VE TALKED TO IN THE PAST ABOUT THIS AND OTHER ISSUES IS YOU GOT MY PHONE NUMBER, CALL ME. DON'T STEW ON ISSUES. A LOT OF TIMES WE DON'T KNOW THERE'S AN ISSUE UNTIL YOU CALL US.

BECAUSE YOU ACT REALLY AS OUR EYES ON THE STREETS AND IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO THE COOPER. I'M SORRY, CANIS, DENNY, STEWART INTERSECTION WAS BROUGHT TO ME.

NOW, I GUESS NOT QUITE FIVE YEARS AGO BY POTLATCHDELTIC WITH A POINTING OUT THE CONCERN OF ALL THIS.

THIS INTERSECTION IS TERRIBLE. IT'S GETTING WORSE AND WORSE.

LITTLE ROCK WON'T DO ANYTHING. WE WANT YOU TO DO IT FOR US.

WE THINK YOU CAN FIND SOME FEDERAL MONEY. AND THE FEDERAL MONEY IS ABOUT HALF OF WHAT THE COST OF THE PROJECT IS OR WAS.

AND PROMISED THAT, HEY, WE'LL GIVE YOU ALL THE RIGHT OF WAY YOU NEED TO BUILD THIS THING.

THAT'S, AND SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT RIGHT OF WAY.

SO, IN GOOD FAITH, WE'VE MOVED FORWARD. SPENT FOUR YEARS.

Y'ALL HAVE BEEN WATCHING THIS PROCESS GO THROUGH FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS ON A FEDERALLY FUNDED PROJECT AND ALL THE RED TAPE AND ALL THE HOOPS WE HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH.

FINALLY THE WHOLE PROCESS WAS COMPLETED LAST AT THE END OF THE SUMMER, AUGUST, I GUESS, SOMETIME, AND WENT TO ARDOT FOR FINAL APPROVAL OR APPROVAL TO BID.

THE BID DOCUMENTS WERE READY. THE NEXT MONTH IN MY PUBLIC WORKS MEETING, I ASKED WHAT THE STATUS WAS OF THIS JOB AND I WAS TOLD, WELL, WE'RE WAITING FOR ARDOT TO RELEASE IT. SO IT'S NOT TOO RARE FOR ARDOT TO BE SLOW IN GETTING THEIR PROJECTS OUT.

THE NEXT MONTH, OCTOBER, I ASKED IN MY MONTHLY MEETING AGAIN, WHERE'S THIS PROJECT AT? WHY IS IT NOT OUT TO BID? I WAS TOLD, WELL, WE'RE STILL WAITING ON ARDOT.

I ASKED SOMEBODY, HAS ANYONE CALLED ARDOT TO FIND OUT WHAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH THIS PROJECT? THAT WAS DONE AND I WAS INFORMED THAT ARDOT WAS HOLDING THE PROJECT BECAUSE WE STILL DIDN'T HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY.

POTLATCHDELTIC HAD NOT TURNED OVER OR TRANSFERRED THEIR RIGHT OF WAY ON THEIR PROPERTY, WHICH IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THIS INTERSECTION. AFTER NO RESPONSE.

I PUT IN A CALL TO THE. I THINK HE'S THE VICE PRESIDENT IN CHARGE OF THIS AREA.

DAVID, I'M GOING TO SLAUGHTER THIS NAME. I'M JUST GOING TO CALL HIM DAVID R AND GOT HIM TO COME DOWN TO MY OFFICE, MEET WITH ME TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE HECK'S WRONG.

WE GOT TO GET THIS THING GOING. IT'S ABOUT TO BE WINTER, AND THAT'S NO TIME TO START A ROAD PROJECT.

DAVID JOINED ME IN MY OFFICE, HAD THE PLANS ALL OUT.

WE REVIEWED THE PROJECT, AND GOT DOWN TO THE YOU KNOW, DAVID, THERE'S NOTHING HOLDING THIS PROJECT UP, BUT YOUR RIGHT OF AWAY. I GOT INVOLVED IN THIS BECAUSE YOU PROMISED FREE RIGHT OF WAY.

IF WE DO THE JOB, WHERE'S MY FREE RIGHT AWAY.

THE RESPONSE WAS, WELL, YOU KNOW, LITTLE ROCK WON'T ASSURE US THAT THERE MIGHT NOT BE MORE RIGHT OF WAY WANTED IN THE FUTURE.

WHICH IS NOT MY PROBLEM, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

I'M NOT LITTLE ROCK. I'M THE COUNTY. AND I LET DAVID KNOW THAT IF THAT WAS A PROBLEM FOR HIM, HE SHOULD TAKE IT UP WITH LITTLE ROCK. BUT WE'RE READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT THAT HE PROMISED THE RIGHT OF WAY ON.

AFTER A BRIEF AMOUNT OF CONVERSATION HE FINALLY TOLD ME AT THE END, WELL, WE CAN'T GIVE IT TO YOU, BUT WE'LL SELL IT TO YOU. WE'LL SELL IT TO YOU FOR THE SAME THING YOU PAID THE RIGHT OF WAY YOU PURCHASED FROM THE FAMILY ACROSS THE STREET ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF CANIS. AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THAT REALLY DISAPPOINTED ME.

I OBVIOUSLY HAD GOTTEN INVOLVED IN A PROJECT WITH SOMEBODY WHO WAS NOT OUT FRONT AND HONEST IN THE PROCESS.

DAVID LEFT AFTER ABOUT THREE DAYS. I FINALLY COOLED IT OFF ENOUGH TO ASK OUR ENGINEER, TELL ME HOW MANY SQUARE FEET OF RIGHT OF WAY WE'RE TRYING TO GET FROM DELTEC, AND TELL ME WHAT THE AMOUNT WAS THAT WE PAID PER SQUARE FOOT ACROSS THE STREET.

THE ENGINEER GOT ME ALL THIS INFORMATION. IT CALCULATED OUT TO ABOUT $79,000.

WE NOTIFIED POTLATCH THAT. OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO BUY THE RIGHT OF WAY FROM YOU AT THE PRICE FROM THE PEOPLE ACROSS THE STREET AT $79.

WE'RE SENDING YOU A SALES AGREEMENT ALONG WITH THE STATEMENT OF HOW MANY SQUARE FEET AND WHAT THEIR PRICE WAS AND WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AND SO FORTH.

TWO WEEKS LATER, I'M IN MY MONTHLY MEETING, AND I WANT TO KNOW, WHERE'S THIS PROJECT? WHY IS IT NOT OUT FOR BID? ARDOT STILL HOLDING IT.

WHY ARE THEY HOLDING IT? POTLATCH WON'T RELEASE THEIR RIGHT OF WAY.

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SO UPON THE DETERMINATION THAT THESE FOLKS WERE WILLING TO JUST SABOTAGE THIS PROJECT OVER MAYBE IN A LAWSUIT, SOMEDAY THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET AN EXTRA $25,000.

THESE ARE THE PEOPLE SELLING LOTS FOR $250,000 DOWN THE STREET.

MADE IT REALLY CLEAR TO ME WHAT I HAD ALREADY SUSPECTED.

I HADN'T GOT IT INVOLVED IN A PROJECT WITH SOMEONE WHO WAS LESS THAN FORTHRIGHT AND LESS THAN HONEST.

I LEARNED IN 40 YEARS OF BUSINESS THAT WHEN YOU FIND YOURSELF IN THE MIDST OF A PROJECT WITH SOMEONE WHO'S NOT FULLY HONEST, GET OUT. GET OUT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT NEVER, EVER GETS BETTER.

SO I HAVE OFFERED THE CITY OF LITTLE ROCK THE $1.4 MILLION GRANT WILL TRANSFER IT TO THEM.

THE ALL THE DESIGN DRAWINGS THAT ARE ALREADY APPROVED AT ARDOT AND WAITING TO BE BID THAT WE'VE PAID FOR OUT OF YOUR TAX DOLLARS AND THE RIGHT OF WAY.

THAT'S ALL ACROSS THE SOUTH, THE SOUTH SIDE AND I THINK THE EXTREME WEST SIDE THAT WE'VE ALREADY PURCHASED AND TAKEN CARE OF I'VE LET LITTLE ROCK KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, HEY, IF YOU DON'T LET US KNOW THAT YOU WANT US TO HOLD THIS FOR YOU BY THE 1ST OF MARCH, WE'RE GOING TO RELEASE IT. THAT MONEY'S GOING TO GO AWAY BECAUSE WE CAN'T TIE THAT UP.

THERE'S A LIMIT TO HOW LONG WE CAN TIE IT UP.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'VE GOT ONE OF THE LITTLE ROCK DIRECTORS RANTING AND RAVING SAYING BARRY HYDE RENEGED.

AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT BARRY HYDE DIDN'T RENEGE.

BARRY HYDE HUNG INTO A CRAPPY DEAL WAY TOO LONG.

I APOLOGIZE TO YOU. WHEN I GOT INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT, IT SEEMED LIKE A NO BRAINER.

SHOULD HAVE BEEN A NO BRAINER, BUT I WAS INVOLVED WITH SOMEBODY WHO WAS LESS THAN HONEST AND THAT HAS RUINED THE PROJECT.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL YOU. IT IS UNSAFE.

I ASK YOU TO EXERCISE CAUTION IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT ANY INTERIM SOLUTION.

WE'LL BE GLAD TO WORK WITH YOU ON IT. BUT WE CAN'T DO BUSINESS WITH THAT COMPANY AND I COULD TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS AND COMPLAIN FOR ABOUT AN HOUR, BUT I'M GOING TO SPARE YOU OF THAT.

WE'LL CONTINUE TO PRESSURE LITTLE ROCK TO GET INVOLVED AND TAKE CARE OF THE DANG INTERSECTION, WHICH IS REALLY THEIR INTERSECTION TO BEGIN WITH.

THEY STOPPED ANNEXATION YEARS BACK BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO RESOLVE THAT, DIDN'T WANT TO BEAR THE EXPENSE OF THAT INTERSECTION.

I CAN ALSO TELL YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, AS YOU'RE WELL AWARE, I'M SURE POTLATCH IS IN THE PROCESS OF APPLYING TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT OF LITTLE ROCK FOR APPROVAL OF ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT. WELL, I DON'T THINK I'M NOT SURE ANYBODY'S FIGURED OUT THAT THE WESTERN ONE THIRD TO ONE HALF OF THAT DEVELOPMENT IS IN THE COUNTY, AND IN NORMAL SITUATION, ANNEXATIONS, 100% ANNEXATIONS BY THE CITY HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE COUNTY JUDGE.

BUT THERE'S A LITTLE CAVEAT IN THERE THAT UNLESS IT MEETS ALL THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY AND UNTIL THEY GET INVOLVED AND THEY SOLVE THIS INTERSECTION, IT DOESN'T MEET ANY NEEDS. AND I WILL OPPOSE IN EVERY WAY, SHAPE AND FORM THE ANNEXATION OF THAT PROPERTY.

AND WE HAVE ALREADY ADVISED LITTLE ROCK PLANNING AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE THAT THAT THAT WE OPPOSE ONE SINGLE BUILDING PERMIT BEING ISSUED FROM TODAY ON OR ACTUALLY TWO WEEKS AGO ON IN THAT AREA THAT IT'S INTOLERABLE.

I CAN ONLY PRAY THAT WE DON'T HAVE FURTHER PROBLEMS AND THAT THAT TERRIBLE ACCIDENT WHERE THERE'S SERIOUS INJURY OR LOSS OF LIFE.

AND, YOU KNOW, ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS I'M SORRY THAT I COULDN'T SOLVE IT OR I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE A HECK OF A LOT EARLIER THAT I WAS DEALING WITH SOMEBODY WHO WAS JUST BEING MEAN. I MEAN, I THERE'S NOT EVEN ANY GOOD REASON.

I MEAN, YOU REALIZE HOW LITTLE $25,000 MUST MEAN TO POTLATCHDELTIC.

IT'S CRAZY. SO, I'M SORRY. THAT'S THE BEST I CAN DO IS TELL YOU I'M SORRY.

I HOPE THE REST OF YOUR NIGHT WILL BE BETTER THAN THIS.

MEMBERS WE'RE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.