[26-I-65 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 25-OR-52 (2026 ANNUAL BUDGET, PULASKI COUNTY, ARKANSAS) TO RECOGNIZE AND APPROPRIATE GRANT FUNDS FOR THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. ]

I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY UNFINISHED BUSINESS. SO WE'LL JUMP INTO NEW BUSINESS.

AMY, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ ORDINANCE

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AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 25-OR-52, 2026 ANNUAL BUDGET, PULASKI COUNTY, ARKANSAS TO RECOGNIZE AN APPROPRIATE GRANT FUNDS FOR THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. JUSTICE MCCOY. MAKE A MOTION WE SEND THIS TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT WITH A DO PASS RECOMMENDATION.

SECOND TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT WITH A DO PASS RECOMMENDATION.

JUSTICE MCCOY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPLAIN? I WILL DO VERY LITTLE SINCE IT'S SOMEWHAT TECHNICAL, BUT DIRECTOR ANDY AND I'LL TRY TO PRONOUNCE HIS LAST NAME.

TRAFFANSTEDT. BUT I PROBABLY DIDN'T GET IT RIGHT.

BUT HE'S HERE AND I TOLD HIM HE. HE'LL NEED TO BE READY TO EXPLAIN.

SO, DIRECTOR, IF YOU'LL COME UP AND BREAK IT DOWN FOR US VERBALLY, THAT'D BE GREAT.

YEAH. ANDY TRAFFANSTEDT, I'M THE DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. THESE ARE HOMELAND SECURITY FUNDS THAT WE GET PRETTY MUCH ANNUALLY.

THEY ARE 100% REIMBURSABLE. NO IMPACT ON THE COUNTY FUNDS.

SO THERE'S BASICALLY TWO GRANTS HERE. ONE IS FOR WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, WHERE WE'LL BE REPLACING A LOT OF OUR CHEMICAL DETECTION EQUIPMENT.

THAT'S THERE'S BETTER NEWER TECHNOLOGY OUT THERE.

AND WITH THE URBAN SEARCH AND RESCUE GRANT, WE'LL BE REPLACING SOME 12 TO 15 YEAR OLD EQUIPMENT JAWS OF LIFE, AIRLIFTING BAGS. WE'LL BE DOING SOME CONFINED SPACE TRAINING, BRINGING THAT IN SOME CHEMICAL DETECTORS ON THAT SIDE WELL FOR CONFINED SPACE MONITORING THESE TYPE OF ITEMS. AND DIRECTOR DOES LIKE THE OLD JAWS OF LIFE.

DO THEY GET HAND ME WHAT'S THE STATUS ON THOSE? A LOT OF THE TIMES ON SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT WE CAN HAND DOWN, LIKE THE JAWS OF LIFE TO VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENTS.

AND WE HAVE DONE THAT IN THE PAST BECAUSE HONESTLY, THEY DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS A LOT OF TIMES.

AND A LOT OF THE EQUIPMENT WE HAVE IS STILL SERVICEABLE.

SO YES. OKAY, I YIELD. THANK YOU. THERE APPEARS TO BE NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

THANK YOU DIRECTOR. THANK YOU. AMY WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON 26-I-65.

JUSTICE CAPPS. AYE. JUSTICE CAPPS VOTES YES. JUSTICE LEWISON.

YES. JUSTICE LEWISON VOTES YES. JUSTICE BLACKWOOD.

AYE. JUSTICE BLACKWOOD VOTES YES. JUSTICE PERSON.

YES. JUSTICE PERSON VOTES YES. JUSTICE MASSEY.

AYE. JUSTICE MASSEY VOTES YES. JUSTICE CURRY.

AYE. JUSTICE CURRY VOTES YES. JUSTICE KEITH. YES.

JUSTICE KEITH VOTES YES. JUSTICE WARD. YES. JUSTICE WARD VOTES YES.

JUSTICE YOUNG-BAKER. YES. JUSTICE YOUNG-BAKER VOTES YES.

JUSTICE ROBINSON. AYE. ROBINSON VOTES YES. JUSTICE MCCOY.

YES. JUSTICE MCCOY VOTES YES. JUSTICE HOUSE. YES.

JUSTICE HOUSE VOTES YES. JUSTICE ELLIOTT. YES.

JUSTICE ELLIOTT VOTES YES AND JUSTICE MEDLOCK.

AYE. JUSTICE MEDLOCK VOTES YES. SO YOU HAVE 15 AYES, 0 NAYS.

15 AYES, 0 NAYS. WE WILL SEND 26-I-65 TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT WITH THE DO PASS RECOMMENDATION.

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THERE HAS BEEN A LATE FILED ITEM. IS THERE A RECOMMENDATION? YES. I MOVE THAT WE HEAR I-66. SECOND. WITHOUT OBJECTION.

AMY, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ 26-I-66 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 25-OR-52 2026 ANNUAL BUDGET PULASKI COUNTY, ARKANSAS TO APPROPRIATE CONTINGENCY FUNDS FUND 1807 AND CAPITAL MAINTENANCE AND TECH FUNDS FUND 1806 FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

YES, I BELIEVE THIS IS A. THIS IS A MONEY NEEDED FOR TECHNOLOGY, HVAC, FOR THE JAIL, AND TO MAINTAIN SOME VEHICLES THAT WE HAVE.

WE'RE NOT REPLACING VEHICLES. WE'RE FIXING THEM SO.

TO THE FULL QUORUM. SECOND. THIRD. WOW. OKAY.

SORRY. RIGHT. YEAH. I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT THE AMENDMENT FOR ITEM 26-I-66.

SECOND. OKAY. WOW. WOW [LAUGHTER]. HURRY! TONIGHT.

THERE WE GO. OKAY, SO A MOTION WAS MADE WITH THE SECOND THAT 26-I-66 IS AMENDED.

JUSTICE PERSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPLAIN THE AMENDMENT? THE AMENDMENT JUST INCREASES FUNDING FOR THE ITEMS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED. HVAC, VEHICLE MAINTENANCE TECHNOLOGY.

I BELIEVE THE SHERIFF HERE IS HERE WITH SOME REPRESENTATIVES.

IF YOU HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THE AMENDMENT.

THERE ARE NO. HE NEEDS TO READ THE AMENDMENT.

OH, I GUESS YEAH. CAN YOU READ THE AMENDMENT, AMY?

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I WOULD HAVE HEARD IT OR NOT SO. [LAUGHTER] I DO APOLOGIZE.

AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 25-OR-52 2026 ANNUAL BUDGET, PULASKI COUNTY, ARKANSAS TO APPROPRIATE CONTINGENCY FUNDS FUND 1807 AND CAPITAL MAINTENANCE AND TECH FUNDS FUND 1806 FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

IS THAT ENOUGH, OR DO YOU WANT ME TO CONTINUE? THAT'S ENOUGH, THAT'S ENOUGH. AND IT'S ALREADY ON THE TABLE FOR DISCUSSION.

AND ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY COMMENTS? GO AHEAD.

QUESTIONS BY ALL MEANS, SHERIFF. WE WANT TO BE ON THE ORDINANCE GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. SO I JUST. HE KIND OF HIT ON IT EARLIER ABOUT THIS ISN'T REPLACING VEHICLES. THIS IS MAINTAINING VEHICLES PART OF IT.

PART OF THE MONEY GOES TOWARDS THAT AND THEN THE REST OF THE MONEY.

I'M JUST CURIOUS, WHAT ALL DOES IT GO TO AND WHEN? WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE REPLACED VEHICLES? I CAN'T REMEMBER, IT SEEMS LIKE WE.

DID WE JUST REPLACE SOME OR NO? SO WE PURCHASE APPROXIMATELY EIGHT VEHICLES A YEAR.

BUT THESE ARE OTHER VEHICLES THAT NEED REPAIR THAT NEED ENGINE REPAIR, TRANSMISSION REPAIR.

WE'VE SPENT WE HAVE A BUDGET OF $150,000 FOR VEHICLE REPAIR.

AND WE'VE WE'RE PROJECTED TO SPEND $214,000 THIS YEAR.

JUST FOR REPAIRS? JUST, JUST FOR REPAIRS. AND THAT'S GOING TO THE LIST OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO REPAIR INCLUDE A TRANSMISSION. WE'VE GOT 27 VEHICLES THAT HAS MAJOR REPAIRS ANYWHERE FROM $8,000 $10,000.

THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES WE BUY EVERY YEAR DOESN'T KEEP UP WITH THE NEED.

SO WE'RE HAVING TO MAKE REPAIRS AS WE GET MORE AND MORE MILEAGE ON THE VEHICLES, THEN WE'RE HAVING TO DO MORE AND MORE MAJOR REPAIRS.

CURTIS SO TOTAL MARK UNITS IS ABOUT 130. OKAY. AND WHAT MAKES THE.

WHAT. HOW DO YOU DETERMINE IF ONE NEEDS REPAIRED OR JUST REPLACED? WELL, OBVIOUSLY IT COSTS MORE TO REPLACE THE VEHICLE.

AND SO WE ROAD AND BRIDGE, THEY'LL EVALUATE THE VEHICLE AND TELL US WHAT THE COST IS FOR REPAIR.

NORMALLY WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T REPAIR OR REPLACE A MOTOR OR TRANSMISSION.

WE'D REPLACE THE VEHICLE, BUT WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND REPLACE THOSE THINGS.

SO WE CAN HAVE THESE VEHICLES AVAILABLE. I THINK I DON'T KNOW IF I MENTIONED TO EVERYONE THAT WE'VE LOST FUNDING FOR REPLACING, FOR PURCHASING NEW VEHICLES. THE MONEY WE USE PREVIOUSLY CAME FROM PHONE SERVICES IN THE JAIL.

FCC RULED THAT SHERIFF'S OFFICE DETENTION FACILITIES, PRISONS CAN NO LONGER RECEIVE COMMISSION.

SO WE'RE LOSING ABOUT $800,000 A YEAR STARTING THIS YEAR ON MONEY THAT WE WOULD USE TO REPLACE VEHICLES.

SO ANOTHER THING, WHO, WHO REPAIRS THESE VEHICLES? AND IS THERE SOMEONE THAT CHECKS FOR RECALLS? AND I'M JUST SAYING THAT BECAUSE I RECENTLY EXPERIENCED SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE WHERE THE WHOLE MOTOR WAS RECALLED.

AND I KNOW OF SOME TRANSMISSIONS THAT WERE RECALLED SO.

PURCHASING ANY MOTOR TRANSMISSION OR ANY PARTS DUE TO RECALL? OKAY. AND THEN ASIDE FROM VEHICLE REPAIR, I'M SKIMMING OVER THIS.

SO I'M. YES. I APOLOGIZE THE OTHER FUNDING. I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE BUDGET.

WHAT THE OTHER EXPENSES ARE FOR SO WE HAVE.

NO, THAT'S NOT THE BULK OF THE BULK OF IT IS GOING TO BE A BOILER SYSTEM NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE TWO BOILERS. ONE OF THEM IS DOWN.

IT'S NOT REPAIRABLE. THE OTHER ONE NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.

WAS LAST PERSON 2007. AND SO WE ARE REPLACING THOSE STEAM BOILERS WITH THREE OTHER BOILERS.

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THEY'LL BE MORE EFFICIENT FOR US. I'VE GOT SOMEONE FROM MAINTENANCE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.

ALSO, HVAC UNIT MC 8. IT WAS ON THE LIST OF UNITS THAT A COUPLE YEARS AGO YOU VOTED TO YOU GAVE FUNDING TO REPLACE UNITS ON THE FACILITY. THIS IS THE LAST ONE TO BE REPLACED.

IT IS. CANNOT BE FIXED. IT'S MAINTAINING A TEMPERATURE OF AROUND 87 DEGREES IN THE OFFICE AREAS.

AND SO WE'RE LOOKING TO REPLACE THAT. AND THEN WE HAVE SERVERS LOOKING AT THREE SERVERS FOR OUR SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE. WE ALSO HAVE SOMEONE FROM IT THAT CAN TALK IN DETAIL ABOUT THE SERVERS.

SO IF YOU WANT ANY MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE SERVERS OR THE BOILER SYSTEM OR THE HVAC SYSTEM, I DO HAVE SOMEONE THAT CAN TALK ABOUT THOSE. AND A LESSER AMOUNT IS ALSO FOR THE FUELS.

AS YOU KNOW, FUEL PRICES HAS GONE UP. MAINTENANCE HAS GONE UP.

AND SO WE ARE, WE'RE LOOKING AT, WE'RE LOOKING AT A SHORTFALL.

WE'VE ALREADY SPENT 80% OF OUR BUDGET WHICH IS $522,000.

WE'VE ALREADY SPENT THAT OUT OF OUR BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR.

AND WE'RE PROJECTING THAT BY THE END OF THE YEAR AT THE CURRENT RATE FUEL COSTS AND LUBRICANT FOR THE VEHICLES, THAT WILL BE AT ABOUT $783,000 AND SEVEN $783,783 IN COST BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

SO WE'LL BE OVER THE BUDGET. SO WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT DIFFERENCE OF APPROXIMATELY $133,000.

OKAY. AND SO THE, THE HVACS THAT THE MC 8 THAT'S FOR THE AIR, THE BOILERS, IS THAT THE HEAT OR? IT IS HEAT AND IT INVOLVES THE AIR AS WELL, I CAN.

OKAY. SO IT KIND OF IT'S THE TWO COMBINED HEAT AND AIR, I GUESS, BOILER AND AIR THAT NEED TO BE.

OKAY. OKAY. I THINK FOR. I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU JUSTICE MEDLOCK.

JUSTICE. JUSTICE ROBINSON. YEAH. I'M BRIAN [LAUGHTER] YEAH, I'M LOOKING AT IT. JUSTICE ROBINSON YOU. OH. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SHERIFF. THIS MIGHT BE MORE OF A HUTCH QUESTION.

WHEN WE STARTED THE CONTINGENCY FUND, WHAT WAS THE NUMBER WE HAD IN THERE? SO IF WE APPROVE THIS TONIGHT, WE'VE GOT ROUGHLY $4 MILLION LEFT.

IF WE APPROVE IT, WE'RE DOWN TO $2 MILLION. NO $1.8 MILLION. YOU'RE GOING TO END UP WITH ABOUT A MILLION LEFT YEAH. ABOUT A MILLION CONTINGENCY FUND FOR THOSE.

YEAH, THAT'S THE POINT OF CONTINGENCY. SO I'M KIND OF CURIOUS.

I KNOW THE ORIGINAL $10 MILLION. HOW MUCH HAS GONE TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT? I HAVE TO LOOK THAT UP BUT. ABOUT HALF SO MY ONLY. MY ONLY CONCERN IS WHAT YEAR. WHAT YEAR DID WE DO THE CONTINGENCY FUND? WITH AGING EQUIPMENT AND NOT YOUR FAULT. I MEAN, IT'S JUST THE POSITION YOU'RE IN.

I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT MY ASSUMPTION IS BY THIS TIME NEXT YEAR, THE SHERIFF'S GOING TO ASK FOR THE REMAINING BALANCE FOR AGING EQUIPMENT, SOMETHING I CAN'T PREDICT THE FUTURE. SO IF WE DEPLETE THE CONTINGENCY FUND, HOW ARE.

I MEAN, HOW ARE WE GOING TO BRIDGE THE GAP BETWEEN THE SHORTFALL THAT'S GOING TO BE NEEDED AFTER 27? AND I KNOW NOBODY HAS THAT CRYSTAL BALL, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO ONE, YOU KNOW, END.

IF WE'VE HAD ROUGHLY $5 MILLION GO TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT OVER A MATTER OF TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS. I. THERE'S A SHORTFALL OBVIOUSLY SOMEWHERE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MAGIC NUMBER IS WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

AND I JUST AS A BODY, HOW ARE WE GOING TO BRIDGE THAT GAP? AND I MEAN, IF YOU'VE GOT AN ANSWER, I'D LOVE TO HEAR IT.

WELL, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS STARTED WHEN THE JAIL WAS BUILT.

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THERE WAS NO MONEY FOR MAINTAINING THE JAIL. OH I AGREE.

THE BOILER. IF THE OTHER BOILER GOES OUT RIGHT NOW, WE WILL NOT HAVE ANY HOT WATER IN THE BUILDING.

AND THEN WE WILL BE LOOKING AT LAWSUITS. WE YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO KEEP TEMPERATURE IN THE BUILDING IN OUR AREAS OF THE DETAINEES AT A CERTAIN TEMPERATURE, YOU KNOW, SO. AND I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO REPLACE A TRANSMISSION VERSUS JUST BUYING A WHOLE NEW VEHICLE OR SOME OTHER AVENUES TO KIND OF SHORTEN THAT GAP.

I'M JUST, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED OF WHERE WE'RE HEADED AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

NOT MAYBE NOT IN 27, BUT 28, 29 SOME WE'RE LOOKING AT, I THINK A PROBLEM.

AND I AGREE WITH YOU, AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT REVENUE STREAM IS AVAILABLE FOR THAT FACILITY.

IT'S OVER 30 YEARS OLD AND YOU KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REPLACE THE BOILER AGAIN DOWN THE ROAD.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO. THE AIR CONDITIONING UNITS WE HAVE REPLACED WILL EVENTUALLY NEED TO BE REPLACED. THE LOCKING SYSTEM THAT WE INSTALLED WILL EVENTUALLY HAVE TO BE UPGRADED OR REPLACED. SO IT'S A CONTINUAL MAINTENANCE OF A FACILITY.

SO AND IT'S LIKE A, A TOWN. I MEAN, WE HAVE 13 30 IN THE BUILDING TODAY.

WE'RE BUILT FOR 12 10. WE HAVE A KITCHEN, WE HAVE LAUNDRY.

WE'RE FEEDING FOLKS. WE HAVE MEDICAL, WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE IN OUR FACILITY THAN WE DO IN SOME TOWNS.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE PROCESS 17,000 PEOPLE IN THE FACILITY LAST YEAR.

AND I KNOW DURING THE BUDGET COMMITTEE, WE RAISED SOME OF YOUR LINE ITEMS, LIKE THE FUELS AND THE PARTS AND EVERYTHING.

BUT I'M ASSUMING BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE VEHICLES, THE FUEL HAS GONE UP.

I MEAN, THE FUEL'S BEEN HOVERING AROUND $3 A GALLON ALL YEAR.

3.50. SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THE EXTRA VEHICLES HAS INCREASED THE FUEL COST.

WELL, YOU KNOW, THE. WHEN YOU HAVE OLDER VEHICLES THAT INCREASE THE DECREASES THEIR THE MILEAGE THAT THEY GET.

AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAINTAIN THE OLDER VEHICLES ON THE STREET. AND OF COURSE WE DID. AND I APPRECIATE WE DID INCREASE OUR BUDGET FOR FUEL, BUT WE DIDN'T EXPECT IT. THE FUEL TO BE 3.77 A GALLON AND DIESEL FUEL TO BE 5.58 A GALLON.

AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S HIT US. AND WE'RE BEING VERY CONSCIOUS ABOUT IT, ABOUT WHERE WE FUEL UP AT.

WE'RE SENDING INFORMATION OUT WHEN WE FIND OUT FUEL IS A LITTLE BIT CHEAPER, DIFFERENT PLACES, WE LET THE DEPUTIES KNOW WHERE THEY CAN GET CHEAPER FUEL FROM.

WHAT ABOUT HOW MUCH OF THIS GOES THROUGH ROAD AND BRIDGE LIKE THE TRANSMISSION OR THE BRAKES? OR DOES IT ALL FUNNEL THROUGH ROAD AND BRIDGE? SO DON'T. I THOUGHT WE HAD A LINE ITEM FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE ON VEHICLE MAINTENANCE.

YEAH, BUT THE DEPARTMENTS PAY THEIR PART. PAY FOR THE PARTS OKAY. YOU CAN'T, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T USE ROAD AND BRIDGE MONEY FOR OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

THAT'S FINE, BUT YOU CAN USE THE LABOR OKAY. THANK YOU, I YIELD. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

JUSTICE MCCOY. I THINK WE JUST NEED TO ADOPT THE AMENDMENT.

VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT. DON'T WE NEED TO DO THAT FIRST BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER? WELL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CHANGES, SO.

IS THAT.

IS THAT ALL? YES. WE JUST MOVED ONE ITEM FROM ONE.

FROM ONE. I WOULD SUGGEST WE.

JUSTICE MCCOY ARE YOU CALLING THE QUESTION, SIR? IF THAT'S APPROPRIATE, BUT I WOULD JUST I THINK IT'D BE APPROPRIATE FOR US TO VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT, AND THEN WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THE ITEM IF NEEDED. SOUNDS GOOD. TRYING TO GET THE AMENDMENT RECOGNIZED WELL, WE DID RECOGNIZE IT, BUT I THINK WE.

BUT BUT IF I MEAN. I MEAN. WE CAN GO AHEAD AND. IT'S EITHER HERE OR THERE.

NO, IT HAD TO BE THERE. SINCE YOU SAID IT, YOU SAID IT.

SO CALL THE QUESTION. SO IF ARE YOU ARE YOU CALLING THE QUESTION.

I GUESS THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING.

SECOND. ALRIGHT, ALRIGHT. WITHOUT DEBATE. AMY [LAUGHTER] PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON CALLING THE QUESTION ON THE AMENDMENT FOR 26-I-66. OKAY.

JUSTICE MEDLOCK VOTES YES. JUSTICE ELLIOT. YES.

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JUSTICE ELLIOT VOTES YES. JUSTICE HOUSE. YES.

JUSTICE HOUSE VOTES YES. JUSTICE MCCOY. YES. JUSTICE MCCOY VOTES YES.

JUSTICE ROBINSON. YES. JUSTICE ROBINSON VOTES JUSTICE YOUNG-BAKER. YES. JUSTICE YOUNG-BAKER VOTES YES.

JUSTICE WARD. YES. JUSTICE WARD VOTES YES. JUSTICE KEITH.

YES. JUSTICE KEITH. VOTES YES. JUSTICE CURRY.

AYE. JUSTICE CURRY VOTES YES. JUSTICE MASSEY.

AYE. JUSTICE MASSEY VOTES YES. JUSTICE. YES. JUSTICE PERSON VOTES YES.

JUSTICE BLACKWOOD. AYE. JUSTICE BLACKWOOD VOTES YES.

JUSTICE LEWISON. YES. JUSTICE LEWISON VOTES YES.

JUSTICE CAPPS. AYE. JUSTICE CAPPS VOTES YES. AND JUSTICE DAVIS.

YES. JUSTICE DAVIS VOTES YES. SO THAT IS 15 AYES.

15 AYES. WE HAVE AMENDED 26-I. NO NO, NO, YOU.

THE QUESTION. YEAH. OKAY. NOW THE QUESTION.

26-I-66. IS THAT CORRECT? YES NOW LET'S GO. ALRIGHT. AMY.

YES. JUSTICE DAVIS. YES. JUSTICE CAPPS. AYE. JUSTICE CAPPS VOTES YES.

JUSTICE LEWISON. YES. JUSTICE LEWISON VOTES YES.

JUSTICE BLACKWOOD. AYE. JUSTICE BLACKWOOD VOTES YES.

JUSTICE PERSON. AYE. JUSTICE PERSON VOTES YES.

JUSTICE MASSEY. AYE. JUSTICE MASSEY VOTES YES.

JUSTICE CURRY. AYE. JUSTICE CURRY VOTES YES. JUSTICE KEITH.

YES. JUSTICE KEITH VOTES YES. JUSTICE WARD. YES.

JUSTICE WARD VOTES YES. JUSTICE YOUNG-BAKER. YES.

JUSTICE YOUNG-BAKER VOTES YES. JUSTICE ROBINSON.

YES. JUSTICE ROBINSON VOTES YES. JUSTICE MCCOY.

YES. JUSTICE MCCOY VOTES YES. JUSTICE HOUSE. YES.

JUSTICE HOUSE VOTES YES. JUSTICE ELLIOT YES. JUSTICE ELLIOT VOTES YES AND JUSTICE MEDLOCK.

AYE. JUSTICE MEDLOCK VOTES YES. SO THAT IS 15 AYES.

15 AYES. WE HAVE ACCEPTED THE AMENDMENT FOR 26-I-66.

JUSTICE PERSON. ALL RIGHT. I MOVE TO SEND ITEM NUMBER 21.

EXCUSE ME. 26-I-66, AS AMENDED TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT.

SECOND A MOTION WAS MADE [LAUGHTER] WITH THE SECOND THAT WE SEND 26-I-66 TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT, AS AMENDED. NOW THE DISCUSSION. NOW THE DISCUSSION AND I GUESS JUSTICE MCCOY, WE'LL PICK UP WITH WHERE YOU LEFT OFF.

THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. JUSTICE ROBINSON SHARED SOME OF MY CONCERNS.

AND SO ANYWAYS, WE'LL LEAVE THAT THERE. SHERIFF, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'VE GOT.

THIS IS THE FIRST WE'RE HEARING. THIS IS THE FIRST WE'RE SEEING IT TONIGHT. AT LEAST I AM. I LOOKED AT THE EMAIL. I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING. MY PACKET DOESN'T HAVE IT. SO IT LOOKS LIKE YOU GOT SOME SERIOUS ISSUES HERE. I'M LOOKING ON THE BACK OF THIS EMAIL OF THIS SHEET, THE AMENDED PART. AND, AND THEN I LOOK AT THE FRONT OF THIS.

WE HAVE, WE HAVE SEVERAL FIGURES, BUT I'M LOOKING AT THE BACK OF THIS EMAIL FROM STACY WOODS FROM YOUR DEPARTMENT.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE A TOTAL OF FIVE ITEMS BOILER SYSTEM, HVAC SERVERS, FUEL AND PARTS.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. AND I THINK I HEARD A LITTLE BIT OF IT EARLIER IN YOUR COMMENTS TO JUSTICE MEDLOCK, BUT THE BOILER SYSTEM. NEEDS DONE RIGHT NOW. YEAH.

LIKE THAT. IF YOU COULD PRIORITIZE THEM THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. JUST AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. NOT DELAYED A MONTH, SO ON AND SO FORTH.

OKAY. AND THE HVAC FROM THE CONTINGENCY FUND.

NOW, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS NEEDED RIGHT NOW? YES. IT'LL TAKE, YOU KNOW, 6 TO 18 WEEKS, 16 TO 18 WEEKS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE IT, HAVE IT IN.

AND THE CURRENT SYSTEM IS NOT COOLING LIKE IT NEEDS TO.

OKAY, GREAT JUSTICE CURRY. YES. I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF ASK OUR RIGHT NOW, SINCE BUDGET HAS COME UP, THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD. I KNOW WE'RE GETTING READY FOR WHAT BUDGET DISCUSSIONS IN OCTOBER I BELIEVE? SO, RIGHT. WE WILL HAVE A MEETING. RIGHT. SO I KNOW HOW CRITICAL THIS CONVERSATION IS.

AND I DO AGREE THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS GOING NOT AS WELL AS THEY SHOULD GO, BUT AS WE MOVE FORWARD, I HAVE CONCERNS AS WELL WITH BEING SO OVER BUDGET AND HOW IT'S GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THIS

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IN THE NEAR FUTURE. SO THAT IS A CONCERN. BUT I KNOW YOU'RE DOING WHAT YOU CAN, BUT I KNOW THIS WILL BE DEFINITELY A MEANINGFUL BUDGET SESSION COMING UP AS WE PLAN FOR THE NEXT ROUND.

THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT. THANK YOU JUSTICE CURRY.

JUSTICE MEDLOCK. THIS MIGHT NOT BE A QUESTION TO YOU.

IT MAY BE A QUESTION TO YOU GUYS. HELP ME REMEMBER.

AND THIS JUST POPPED IN MY HEAD WHEN HE SAID ABOUT THE FUNDS FROM THE EMERGENCY CENTER BEING TAKEN AWAY.

IS THERE NOT ANY OF THAT BEING RECOUPED AND SENT TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM? NO.

THEY LOST IT. YESTERDAY WAS LABOR DAY OKAY. YEAH. IT'S A THE INMATE PHONE SYSTEM THAT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ACROSS THE COUNTRY ALSO DETENTION FACILITIES, PRISONS, THEY THE PROVIDER OF THE PHONE SERVICES THAT THAT AGENCY WOULD GET A SOME OF THOSE FUNDS WOULD COME AS COMMISSION TO THE THAT AGENCY. WE'VE CUT THAT OUT COMPLETELY? SO THE FCC CUT IT OUT. THEY MADE A RULING A COUPLE YEARS AGO.

YES. I KNOW EVERYBODY'S CONCERNED ABOUT THE PRICES AND EVERYTHING GOING UP AND THAT WE HAVE MORE AND MORE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE OVER BUDGET. SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE EVERYBODY TO THINK ABOUT BECAUSE WE CAN'T CALL EACH OTHER [LAUGHTER] AND TALK TO EACH OTHER ANYMORE.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE FOR PEOPLE TO THINK ABOUT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE THE STATE WHO SENDS IN THEIR CRIMINALS AND THEY KEEP THEM THERE LONGER AND THEY DON'T PAY ENOUGH.

AND THESE ARE THESE ARE SOME THINGS THAT I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS.

WHY DOESN'T THE STATE MOVE OUT SOME OF THEIR CRIMINALS AND PUT THEM INTO THE STATE PRISONS? I ALSO THINK THAT THE CITIES COULD PAY MORE. EACH CITY COULD PAY MORE.

NOBODY ELSE HAS A JAIL. THEY SEND THEM ALL TO HIM AND THE CITIES PAY A CERTAIN AMOUNT.

AND IF THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY AND THESE ARE FOR EACH CITY, FOR THEIR PRISONERS, YOU KNOW.

SO I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD ALSO LOOK AT IS RAISING THE CITY RATES, YOU KNOW, OF WHAT THEY PAY, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THEY'VE BEEN RAISED IN QUITE A WHILE.

YOU CAN ONLY CHARGE THE CITIES WHAT LEGISLATIVE AUDIT SAYS SO. YOU LOOK AT THE EXPENSES OF THE JAIL. THEY DETERMINE A PER DAY COST.

OKAY.

SO IF THE LEGISLATIVE AUDIT AGREED THAT THEIR RATES NEEDED TO BE CHANGED, THEN WE COULD RAISE THEM? YOU CHANGE THEM EVERY YEAR THEY GO DOWN SOMETIMES THEY GO UP THEY CHANGED. BUT BASED ON WHAT HIS EXPENSES HAVE BEEN, THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO GO UP YEAH. YEAH. THE STATES WHERE WE LOSE MONEY EVERY SINGLE YEAR BECAUSE THEY, THEY KEEP, YOU KNOW.

GET ABOUT OR THEY NEED TO PAY WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE PAYS.

I MEAN THAT'S HOW I FEEL ABOUT THE LEGISLATORS [LAUGHTER] LOBBYING PIECE. SO JUST TO LET YOU KNOW.

THANK YOU I YIELD. JUSTICE CAPPS WERE YOU TRYING TO GET? OKAY. JUSTICE CAPPS YOU GOT THE FLOOR. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

THIS ITEM IS NON-EMERGENT, CORRECT JUSTIN? NO, IT'S NOT AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE.

IT IS AN APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE. AND SO. IT DOESN'T REQUIRE AN EMERGENCY CLAUSE ON AN APPROPRIATION.

AND SO IT DOES NOT RECEIVE THREE READINGS. NO.

I MEAN YOU CAN DO THAT BUT IT'S NOT REQUIRED.

OKAY. HUTCH, CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH THE FISCAL IMPACT STATEMENT THAT IS NOW DIFFERENT BUT NOT UPDATED BASED ON THE EDIT? CAN YOU. WELL, YEAH.

WELL, YEAH, JUST ADD JUST GO LINE BY LINE FOR US.

THAT'D BE GREAT. WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT AGAIN BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE I KNOW WHAT THE TOTAL IMPACT IS BECAUSE I JUST LEARNED ABOUT IT A LITTLE WHILE AGO.

BUT WHAT WAS YOUR INCREASE ON YOUR AMENDMENT? HOW MUCH? YEAH, I THINK IT WAS 198. SUBTRACT 198 FROM THAT TOTAL FROM THE TOTAL OF THE CONTINGENCY FUND.

CORRECT. 198,000. 198,000. SO THAT'S WHAT. THAT'S WHAT CHANGED TODAY

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OKAY. SO WE'LL BE APPROXIMATELY. HOLD UP, HOLD UP, HOLD UP.

IS THAT YOUR TOTAL CHANGE? YES.

OKAY. SO IS THAT THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN 794 AND 990.

IS THAT THE DIFFERENCE? I THINK SO. HOLD ON. JUSTIN IS SAYING OKAY.

AND THEN WE HAD TO MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT FOR $350,000, I BELIEVE, FOR THE BOILER.

AND THAT WAS GOING TO COME OUT OF CONTINGENCY. AND THEN THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL 196 THAT WE DIDN'T ADD IN THERE, AND THAT IS FOR THE SERVERS.

THANK YOU. THAT'S HELPFUL. OKAY. SUBTRACT THAT FROM THE TOTAL.

SO WE'RE A SWING OF I'M GOING TO DO BACK OF THE NAPKIN MATH, BUT JUST SO WE HAVE SOME IDEA, WE ARE A SWING OF. THIS IS PLUS $546,000. OKAY.

THAT'S GOING TO LEAVE YOU ABOUT 1.3 MILLION SO IT'S GOING TO. THANK YOU. THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR.

AND THE CONTINGENCY FUND IS NOT REQUIRED TO BE AT ANY LEVEL.

OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN WITH REGARD TO GAS AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS SHERIFF BEFORE WHEN THE OFF DUTY OFFICERS ARE USING THE COUNTY VEHICLES ON OFF DUTY TIME, WHICH IS FINE WITH ME, BUT ARE THEY IDLING THEIR CARS AND USING GAS AND DO THEY FILL THEIR OWN CARS OR DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT PROPORTION OF THAT IS HAPPENING OFF DUTY TIME? SO WE WE INSTRUCT THEM TO NOT IDLE THEIR CARS.

OKAY. AND YOU KNOW, UNLESS THEY ARE SOME KIND OF FUNCTION WHERE THEY'RE USING THEIR EQUIPMENT, THEN WE WANT THEM TO HAVE THE CARS RUNNING BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THE BATTERY TO DIE OUT ON THE CAR.

BUT WE EMPHASIZE TO THEM TO LIMIT THAT IDLING, NOT ONLY WHEN THEY'RE WORKING OFF DUTY, BUT ALSO WHEN THEY'RE WORKING DAY TO DAY.

OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU, I YIELD. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THERE SEEMS TO BE NONE. THANK YOU SHERIFF. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AMY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON 26-I-66.

JUSTICE ELLIOTT. YES. JUSTICE ELLIOTT VOTES YES.

JUSTICE HOUSE. YES. JUSTICE HOUSE VOTES YES. JUSTICE MCCOY.

YES. JUSTICE MCCOY VOTES YES. JUSTICE ROBINSON.

YES. JUSTICE ROBINSON VOTES YES. JUSTICE YOUNG-BAKER.

YES. JUSTICE YOUNG-BAKER VOTES YES. JUSTICE WARD.

YES. JUSTICE WARD VOTES YES. JUSTICE KEITH. YES.

JUSTICE KEITH VOTES YES. JUSTICE CURRY. AYE. JUSTICE CURRY VOTES YES.

JUSTICE MASSEY. AYE. JUSTICE MASSEY VOTES YES.

JUSTICE PERSON. AYE. JUSTICE PERSON VOTES YES.

JUSTICE BLACKWOOD. AYE. JUSTICE BLACKWOOD VOTES YES.

JUSTICE LEWISON. YES. JUSTICE LEWISON VOTES YES.

JUSTICE CAPPS. AYE. JUSTICE CAPPS VOTES YES. AND JUSTICE DAVIS.

AYE. JUSTICE DAVIS VOTES YES. THAT'S 15 AYES 0 NAYS.

15 AYES 0 NAYS. WE WILL SEND 26-I-66 TO THE FULL QUORUM COURT, AS AMENDED.

IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MOTION TO ADJOURN.

WITHOUT OBJECTION, WE ARE ADJOURNED. ARE THERE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM THE BAR? IF THERE ARE NO ANNOUNCEMENTS, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M HAPPY TO SAY WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS TONIGHT.

[LAUGHTER]. HALLELUJAH. THANK YOU LORD.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

Sep 08, 2026 Agenda Committee

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